Next seasons squad

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

2 hours ago, Tielemans63 said:

Agreed. Been quite concerned about what the plan is for a while, but now wondering if there's even a plan at all. We're a mess.

If we can keep Maddison for a bit longer - unlikely - and sign 3 or 4 players of the caliber of Faes we’ll be ok for a few years. But it is very concerning.

[Sol thewall Bamba]

Whoever we get in I want everyone here actually bought into the club.

 

We've got way to many players "keeping their options open" and "seeing what happens", some of them very very average on massive money. 

 

[coolhandfox]

13 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

Whoever we get in I want everyone here actually bought into the club.

 

We've got way to many players "keeping their options open" and "seeing what happens", some of them very very average on massive money. 

 

Same for me, to many have one eye on the exit

[volpeazzurro]

11 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

Same for me, to many have one eye on the exit

Very true, but you can't really blame them, I'd be wanting to leave too!

[coolhandfox]

6 minutes ago, volpeazzurro said:

Very true, but you can't really blame them, I'd be wanting to leave too!

No you can't but I can blame them for not doing one or the other.

 

I can also blame the club for not being stronger, soy and Tielemans should have been sold before entering the last 2 years of there contract. 

Edited 27 December 2022 by coolhandfox

[volpeazzurro]

2 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

No you can't but I can blame them for not doing one or the other.

 

I can also blame the club for not being stronger,

I suppose each player will ultimately do what's best for their careers, whether that be financially or ambition wise. In the case of Tielemans and even Vestergaard, why not run your contract down, for both of them have financial benefits in doing so in differing ways. 

 

I agree that the club should act stronger and be more organised by forseeing such situations arising in the first place. If there was clearly no ambition for Tielemans wanting to stay longer, he should have been sold! Even better strength for me would have been to get rid of the manager a long time ago but, yet again, mishandling of his increased contract situation has led the club to be the author of their own downfall. 

[Ledecestre]

People may scoff at this but I think we need to use Albrighton more or let him go. At least he can cross the ball which is more than the rest of them seem able to do at the minute. He always gives 100% unlike some midfielders!

[filthyfox]

We need....

A proven Premier League striker

Replace whoever goes with the same quality

A left back

A centre back

A right winger

A keeper

 

Wholesale changes required

[Dahnsouff]

1 hour ago, coolhandfox said:

No you can't but I can blame them for not doing one or the other.

 

I can also blame the club for not being stronger, soy and Tielemans should have been sold before entering the last 2 years of there contract. 

I would be amazed if we did not try, but operating in a compromised financial market means the buyers are extremely limited, especially if we had a sale figure we were determined to stick too.

[Lambert09]

I must admit i’m slightly worried this is similar to when chilwell was ‘injured’ before his move to chelsea 

[TJQuik]

11 minutes ago, filthyfox said:

We need....

A proven Premier League striker

Replace whoever goes with the same quality

A left back

A centre back

A right winger

A keeper

 

Wholesale changes required

Put Perez, Amartey and Soumaré on the loan list, we should get some loan to buy offers from clubs in Turkey and Greece.

 

For the keeper, spend 70 mil on Courtious, if you offer him the "crucial" position and the same wages as he's on at Real, he will say yes.

 

Bring in John Stones for CB, if we trade Amartey and offer 20 million Man City will agree. Likewise with the midfielder position, we're guaranteed to bring in Goretzka if we swap Tielemans and chuck some money at Bayern. Bring in Madueke for the RW slot, he has a high ceiling so he'll be a top player if we ensure he gets plenty of minutes. Ask our scouts to look for a first team quality, promising left back and we're covered there.

 

It's as easy as that - just ensure they will start every match, including early rounds of the league cup and they'll all come. Then once we've won all three domestic trophies this season, chuck the winnings at Mbappe (of course offering the crucial position to convince him to come) and we'll only have to pay him half the wages he's on now, as long as we chuck half a million signing on fee for him. Then we can target a Champions League win!

[coolhandfox]

38 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

I would be amazed if we did not try, but operating in a compromised financial market means the buyers are extremely limited, especially if we had a sale figure we were determined to stick too.

Yes, but they are both going to walk for free.

 

You don't think we would have got decent money for both Soyuncu and Tielemans after the 20/21 season both with 2 years to run.

 

Even if we got what we paid that would been 60m to reinvest?

 

[reynard]

19 hours ago, Sly said:

We’re going to look drastically different squad wise next season. 
 

We are potentially going to lose Maddison, Tielemans, Amartey, Mendy, Soyuncu, Perez, Evans and Bertrand. 
 

Chances are, the likes of Vestergaard and even Iheanacho might go 
 

We’re no longer near the level

we were at for the first couple of seasons of the Brendan being in charge. How many players do we need of improved ability to just get back to that level?  

We're an entire starting 11 away from the level we were when we finished 5th.

[Cincinnati Fox]

What’s the plan? Where does top want the club to finish?

I don’t think we can’t compete above 8th, the PL is all about money.

we just need to ensure we stay In it but then it’s all a bit pointless 

[Dahnsouff]

1 hour ago, coolhandfox said:

Yes, but they are both going to walk for free.

 

You don't think we would have got decent money for both Soyuncu and Tielemans after the 20/21 season both with 2 years to run.

 

Even if we got what we paid that would been 60m to reinvest?

Maybe, but I am not sure either warranted the attention/fees we would have wanted from those who could have afforded them.

[coolhandfox]

13 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

Maybe, but I am not sure either warranted the attention/fees we would have wanted from those who could have afforded them.

Both worth more then we paid at that point.

[Dahnsouff]

Just now, coolhandfox said:

Both worth more then we paid at that point.

To us yes, but that’s not who would be buying them and it does not seem anyone views them as a desirable addition

[KingsX]

Interesting that so many of us see this the same way. Not knee-jerk negativity after a bad loss, but a clear-eyed look at our squad, finances, and future prospects.

 

We’re going to have to have another tremendous, odds-beating recruitment run to get back to challenging for Europe. Or at least a darned good one just to ensure mid-table stability.

 

The KP expansion looks rather like an existential gamble at this point.

[Sly]

2 hours ago, KingsX said:

Interesting that so many of us see this the same way. Not knee-jerk negativity after a bad loss, but a clear-eyed look at our squad, finances, and future prospects.

 

We’re going to have to have another tremendous, odds-beating recruitment run to get back to challenging for Europe. Or at least a darned good one just to ensure mid-table stability.

 

The KP expansion looks rather like an existential gamble at this point.

It’s been a while, however I don’t think we filled the stadium every week when we were in the Championship? 

[Mike1983]

12 hours ago, whoareyaaa said:

Players we need to move on as they are not good enough or don't want to be here.

 

Vesterguard, Bertrand, Perez, Praet, Soumare, Evans.

 

Players likely to move on due to contract, Youri and Soy.

 

Amartey and Thomas are not good enough to be starting in the Prem imo, Amartey is OK but has too many errors in him.

 

I would do everything to hold onto Maddsion and build the team around him, but can see him moving on.

 

So that is 11 players in total and that's if people don't think we need a new keeper, big job for the recruitment team and I don't think the manager is cut out to build a team from here, his signings have been shocking

 

Next season..

 

                       Ward

    Castange ****  Faes  *****

 

    ******  KDH  Nididi   Barnes

 

               Nacho Daka

Sorry but talking about getting rid of players who are not good enough, while also including Ward in the next seasons line-up doesn’t make any sense.

[whetstonefox]

Is the club capable of resetting itself whilst retaining premier league status? You just hope in the background the club is sorting itself out in terms of a recruitment process. The problem is BR has come to the end of his shelf life here( as would most managers after 4 years to be fair) Come what may I’ll renew my season ticket and hope pray we are not in for a season resembling 77/78 or 01/02 next time round.

[Lewis's Junior]

3 hours ago, KingsX said:

Interesting that so many of us see this the same way. Not knee-jerk negativity after a bad loss, but a clear-eyed look at our squad, finances, and future prospects.

 

We’re going to have to have another tremendous, odds-beating recruitment run to get back to challenging for Europe. Or at least a darned good one just to ensure mid-table stability.

 

The KP expansion looks rather like an existential gamble at this point.

Agreed. Anybody following the club closely can see the magic that took us to the heady heights has disappeared. 

I'm not convinced Rodgers has the stomach for the rebuild. He's been at City longer than any club he's managed, and he must know with the level of rebuild his best hope his finishing mid-table, well below the 5th placed finishes he'll be quoting in this next job interview. 

Stadium expansions are always a gamble for a club in our position. Outside of the Sky 6, nobody is safe. I could see Everton going down this season, and they're building a whole new stadium on money they don't have! But it's the only option to long term bring in more revenue. We really ballsed up the build of the KP by doing it on the cheap and not using it as a venue for gigs etc. 

[Ted Maul]

Cags is getting attention from Atletico now. Ridiculous to think we wouldn't have got £30m at his peak and even more ridiculous that he's not been able to get near the team this season.

 

 

Edited 27 December 2022 by Ted Maul

[Gerard]

16 hours ago, Dan LCFC said:

And that statement is the problem. That's how our own fans view it now. God knows how somebody like him views it when he knows he's good enough to play in the CL.

 

It's all a bit depressing. We've had it very good and I think the wheels are coming off now. We've had two good periods since we came up. The 2015/16 season obviously (although we squandered what we built from that very quickly) and then around 2018 time we put the pieces together for another good side. I'm not sure we'll be able to do it again. We may get the odd gem but I doubt it. The brilliance of Vardy, Mahrez and Maddison has carried us and when we're reliant on individual stars it will always eventually burn out.

 

We're very quickly turning into Southampton. Before us they were the club most clubs outside the big six aspired to be like and now they're dogshit with no players the big sides want. That's us this time next year.

[Tuna]

I think it depends on whether or not we still have the same manager, if we don't then I can see quite a big turnover of players. There are quite a few who could be going due to lapsing contracts, going off the boil or just not being good enough, there are probably 10+ I wouldn't be arsed about leaving.