Ric Flair Live & Direct on BSLB Podcast

[The Doctor]

3 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said:

It's genuinely surprising to see how many of our fans do not understand or accept that Khun Vichai's tragic death changed everything with regards to KP's fitness to run our club. Yes, we continued to be relatively successful for a few years afterwards, but that was because the structure and culture that Vichai established took a while to fall apart. This is normal: a ship holed below the waterline does not sink immediately. It took a while for Top's weakness and ineptitude to dismantle everything his father had built, but it was always going to happen eventually. And now it has.

 

Yes, agree with this. No matter how bad things are, the idea that getting relegated to League One will improve things is desperately naive. I like Jake and respect his passion as a fan, but I think his take on this is daft.

I'd also say that, assuming that Vichai was the expert businessman his success would suggest (that it wasn't just due to good relationships granting him a monopoly) - there would have been an long range plan in place. That we started to fall apart around 3-4 years after his passing strongly suggests we reached the end of the LRP he had in place and Aiyawatt was found wanting once that crutch was removed 

[ClaphamFox]

Just now, The Doctor said:

I'd also say that, assuming that Vichai was the expert businessman his success would suggest (that it wasn't just due to good relationships granting him a monopoly) - there would have been an long range plan in place. That we started to fall apart around 3-4 years after his passing strongly suggests we reached the end of the LRP he had in place and Aiyawatt was found wanting once that crutch was removed 

100%.

[Dandy king]

I've listened to the pod from day 1 and the relegation thing is the worst take since the constant affirmations that Brendon would turn it around. But to be fair, it's all just a product of the club being a total shit show , which we all agree on. 

Edited 17 February by Dandy king

[Claudio Fannieri]

13 hours ago, accessory said:

Because our history is so packed with FA Cup winning owners... 🙄🙄🙄

 

Too many folk on here have the memory of goldfish.

 

And posts like this show why most Foxes treat the KP out campaign with the contempt it deserves.

In the same way our history is littered with owners who have put the club in very real danger of relegation to league 1 and financial meltdown …… you can’t have it one way without the other. 
 

KP have been heavily involved in some amazing times at our club, however they are currently residing over what has been a monumental decline and of we go down arguably the darkest time in our history if the reports are too be believed in regards to our finances and the impact of relegation, couple that with some very dubious commercial / sponsorship deals and it’s very difficult for anyone to defend them or not recognise the need for wholesale change. 

[Ian S]

14 hours ago, accessory said:

Because our history is so packed with FA Cup winning owners... 🙄🙄🙄

 

Too many folk on here have the memory of goldfish.

 

And posts like this show why most Foxes treat the KP out campaign with the contempt it deserves.

Yet another with his head still buried in the sand.Honestly wake up.

[Rubbersoul]

Reading Jake getting backlash for comments he made on GB News.. 

 

.. it’s just about hoping Leicester get relegated to League One 

[NZ_Foxile]

I love the pod, agree with most of what you say, and am definitely not pro King Power. But, I cannot get on board with the idea that relegation would be a good thing. And, even worse, going on GB News?!!!

[RedSoxUK]

Hey @Ric Flair can you ask Jake if he's standing as a Restore Britain candidate in the next election? And if so how do I donate to his campaign? Thanks

[Ric Flair]

1 hour ago, Babylon said:

You can do that now, just stop going. I did and don't regret it for a second, I only wish I'd done it a few years earlier. 

Yeah, thats been me for a while already. I am mindful I don't want my detachment from the club to effect my son's opportunities in going to games so we have still been a handful this season. My daughter came once, said it was dog shit and tried to go to sleep, never been prouder. 

[Ric Flair]

2 minutes ago, RedSoxUK said:

Hey @Ric Flair can you ask Jake if he's standing as a Restore Britain candidate in the next election? And if so how do I donate to his campaign? Thanks

Hahahahahaaaaa i'll ask him mate.

[Ric Flair]

Can I reiterate something about Jake's comments, I've said myself I would take relegation which i understand the reaction that causes. There's a difference between wanting something and what the outcome of that might entail and why it might need to happen to kick start something else.

 

I would take relegation if it increases the chances of new ownership, especially if the prospects of new ownership are extremely remote without it. Bottom line is, I don't trust this ownership to provide us with a positive future and it is my priority to see them gone. 

 

I accept relegation really risks the future of this football club full stop, something which has been caused by horrific decline by the current incumbents but I also cannot accept that we have to stay up to survive and if that means we continue with this ownership then so be it. That's what I cannot agree to but I understand why people look at it differently. It's a bit like believing only a prison sentence for your child might lead to rehabilitation and rebuilding their lives than escaping punishment and doing the positive stuff with a 2nd chance/reprieve. Both are possible, sometimes tough love is needed and sometimes unflinching support and protection is needed. Thankfully the situation our football club finds itself in is not as serious as the example I've given but I think the common ground a growing majority of us can agree to is we want to see change, probably via a new ownership and how we get there is more importantly united and we are aware of what we can and can't control.

 

BLUE ARMY

[Libertine]

23 minutes ago, Rubbersoul said:

Reading Jake getting backlash for comments he made on GB News.. 

 

.. it’s just about hoping Leicester get relegated to League One 

Can't even say you want your football club relegated these days without getting arrested and thrown in jail! 

[Pliskin]

I get what Jake is trying to say. 
 

I don’t want us to get relegated, because it spells pretty much the end of the club. 
 

But such is the absolute shit state of the club, wishing for drastic things to do away with Top and king power is probably going to happen. He has pretty much said he won’t sell up, so administration is about the only way King power go, and the only way for administration is league one….. but league one spells potentially the end of the club. 
 

 

Id go as far as to say I hate King Power and I despise Top for what he’s done, I want him gone at all costs. 
 

If mystic Meg told me tomorrow that we will get relegated, go into administration, but over a period of time new owners would come in and stabilise the club so we could rebuild, I’d take it. I’m convinced under Top and King power this club folds, so for me it’s the lesser of two evils. 
 

Id rather have Leicester City in my life, but Top has to go for this to happen in my opinion, there’s no coming back from the devastation he’s caused under his watch…..

[westernpark]

If you have the opposite opinion of someone like Danny Simpson, it’s normally a good thing. Such a shame he is a title winner. Great work those of the podcast are doing to draw attention to our predicament.

[splinterdream]

some saying relegation would mean administration, but would it, or would it be liquidation? Our debts would be so large, would the club be worth buying at all.

 

What i can't get my head around, is why we wouldn't have a relegation clause in players contracts, why wouldn't we have a standard step contract clause as standard in every contract, I can't see why a player would refuse this if it was highly unlikely we'd go down

[Lad1966]

I understood that it mandatory that all PL must have relegations clauses in all players contract as a safeguard under PSR. In our last relegation it was widely accepted that players had these clause in place, so what’s changed?0

[Pliskin]

6 hours ago, splinterdream said:

some saying relegation would mean administration, but would it, or would it be liquidation? Our debts would be so large, would the club be worth buying at all.

 

What i can't get my head around, is why we wouldn't have a relegation clause in players contracts, why wouldn't we have a standard step contract clause as standard in every contract, I can't see why a player would refuse this if it was highly unlikely we'd go down

Administration could lead to liquidation.

[Claudio Fannieri]

100% appreciate Jake’s sentiments and why he is thinking that way, but for me relegation would be a disaster for the club as I genuinely think it guarantees administration, further breaches, points deductions, potential relegation to league 2 and the very real threat of liquidation. 
 

Also I have had the pleasure to meet a lot of LCFC employees, absolute top drawer people who day in day out do the club proud in how they represent the football club, people who probably earn no more in a year, possibly considerably less than say a Hamza, Winks, Vestergaard, VK or Ayew earns in a week.

 

It is not their fault or for the majority is this mess their making but these are the people who will inevitably suffer as a result of redundancy, people who most probably rely on that income to make ends meet, pay bills and just try to get by in life. It won’t be the players who suffer, it won’t be Rudkin who suffers, it won’t be the managers who have all contributed to the demise over the last 5 years, who have all received sizeable pay offs. 
 

We desperately need a massive reset and change but I really do not want that to be a the cost and detriment to the hard working team behind the scenes at LCFC, the people who rely on this job and income to support their families. 
 

it is easy to forget that at every football club  there is a large number of people who are employed outside of the direct football activities, members of our local communities, friends and family who are also impacted, possibly more so by events like relegation. 
 

That is why I really cannot agree that another relegation will be the reset we need because I genuinely believe the impact could be catastrophic. 

[Ric Flair]

1 hour ago, Claudio Fannieri said:

100% appreciate Jake’s sentiments and why he is thinking that way, but for me relegation would be a disaster for the club as I genuinely think it guarantees administration, further breaches, points deductions, potential relegation to league 2 and the very real threat of liquidation. 
 

Also I have had the pleasure to meet a lot of LCFC employees, absolute top drawer people who day in day out do the club proud in how they represent the football club, people who probably earn no more in a year, possibly considerably less than say a Hamza, Winks, Vestergaard, VK or Ayew earns in a week.

 

It is not their fault or for the majority is this mess their making but these are the people who will inevitably suffer as a result of redundancy, people who most probably rely on that income to make ends meet, pay bills and just try to get by in life. It won’t be the players who suffer, it won’t be Rudkin who suffers, it won’t be the managers who have all contributed to the demise over the last 5 years, who have all received sizeable pay offs. 
 

We desperately need a massive reset and change but I really do not want that to be a the cost and detriment to the hard working team behind the scenes at LCFC, the people who rely on this job and income to support their families. 
 

it is easy to forget that at every football club  there is a large number of people who are employed outside of the direct football activities, members of our local communities, friends and family who are also impacted, possibly more so by events like relegation. 
 

That is why I really cannot agree that another relegation will be the reset we need because I genuinely believe the impact could be catastrophic. 

Don't disagree with a lot of this, my stance is purely because I don't think Top sells. It will have to be taken from him, I.e administration. That is why the protests become arguably even more important and persistent to encourage him to sell up, otherwise our future in my opinion is beyond bleak. 

[coolhandfox]

13 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

Don't disagree with a lot of this, my stance is purely because I don't think Top sells. It will have to be taken from him, I.e administration. That is why the protests become arguably even more important and persistent to encourage him to sell up, otherwise our future in my opinion is beyond bleak. 

Whilst I get what you are saying no guarantee we come out of administration in a good way or a good owner or even continue to exist.

 

 

[Ric Flair]

5 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

Whilst I get what you are saying no guarantee we come out of administration in a good way or a good owner or even continue to exist.

 

 

Of course there's no guarantee, could liken this situation to many things in life and that would not be reason to demand and push for better. Bottom line is, we have been ran horrifically and thats all on Top. We are on the verge of relegation and the fault lies 100% at his door. At this stage we are far past thinking he might be able to turn this around because there's a worry there's no-one else out there that could do better. We are beyond broken if we think that.

[Gamble92]

14 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

Don't disagree with a lot of this, my stance is purely because I don't think Top sells. It will have to be taken from him, I.e administration. That is why the protests become arguably even more important and persistent to encourage him to sell up, otherwise our future in my opinion is beyond bleak. 

No one's buying us if it's administration.

 

I think from the way Top worded things he's not far away from selling but he's just too stubborn to do it when we are in such an undeniably worse position than when he took over. I think the sale is inevitable in the next couple of years. But we absolutely need to stay in this division to have a club to sell. 

[SemperEadem]

6 minutes ago, Gamble92 said:

No one's buying us if it's administration.

 

I think from the way Top worded things he's not far away from selling but he's just too stubborn to do it when we are in such an undeniably worse position than when he took over. I think the sale is inevitable in the next couple of years. But we absolutely need to stay in this division to have a club to sell. 

I know very little on this so could be way off but Wednesday had 40 interested parties at admin. They had not had anywhere near that on bids before it reached that point.

[Ric Flair]

10 minutes ago, Gamble92 said:

No one's buying us if it's administration.

 

I think from the way Top worded things he's not far away from selling but he's just too stubborn to do it when we are in such an undeniably worse position than when he took over. I think the sale is inevitable in the next couple of years. But we absolutely need to stay in this division to have a club to sell. 

What you basing that on? Getting us on the cheap, there'd be many interested parties. The issues are if administration is actually liquidation and there's no way out, what a fun position Aiyawatt has got us teetering on.

[VLC86]

4 minutes ago, SemperEadem said:

I know very little on this so could be way off but Wednesday had 40 interested parties at admin. They had not had anywhere near that on bids before it reached that point.

I think the issue we will have, that they didn’t, is the overall running costs and the level of debt. But we will see, probably soon.