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Telegraph: "Four years on, the Brendan Rodgers formula is still Leicester City's best bet"

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My issue still is and always will be that it always feels like it’s brand Brendan first. He’s not a manager I can warm to or I feel would put the best interests of the club ahead of his own. As many have said, in previous seasons he may be our best option, but large parts of this season have been rotten and when it’s rotten he doesn’t seem to know the answer on or off the pitch.

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CL Fox

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8 minutes ago, winteriscoming said:

Obviously it won’t happen now but a new manager bounce would see us finishing top half. I don’t see that with Rodgers staying. I’m hoping he’ll be gone in the summer but can’t see it happening. 

Which team has had a new manager bounce this year?

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3 minutes ago, BSLBPod said:

Which team has had a new manager bounce this year?

I don't think it'd be too disingenuous to say Wolves, Bournemouth and Villa all have. Very early days with Everton obviously but they've won 2 out of 3 under Dyche compared to 3 all season beforehand. Of course there's no guarantee it translates to long-term success and is dependent to an extent on the quality of the replacement.

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1 hour ago, Fox92 said:

Marsch wasn't okay short term for Leeds because they're in a relegation battle again. 

 

Dyche will keep Everton up, and people will peddle this, but it's hardly a fantastic job. They were 2 points off safety when he got the job, not 20.

Doubt they'll care about how far they needed to climb if he does keep them up, and it'll prove the logic of not hiring relegated mangers to avoid relegation wrong (again)

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17 minutes ago, Tommy Fresh said:

Doubt they'll care about how far they needed to climb if he does keep them up, and it'll prove the logic of not hiring relegated mangers to avoid relegation wrong (again)

That was never my point anyway (again).

The whole world smiles

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2 hours ago, sacreblueits442 said:

...interesting to see the breakdown in this respect!!!

10 million to pay Rodgers off which has been widely reported before - https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/rodgers-leicester-sack-compensation-package-27916779

 

2 million (guesswork) to pay off his backroom staff including Chris Davies and Glen Driscoll. 

 

10 million to buy a manager and his staff out of the their current contract. (this would vary but as an example we paid 8.8 million to buy brendan out of Celtic and that was 4 years ago and in Scotland https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/leicester-celtic-brendan-rodgers-compensation-3507597) 

 

New manager contract realistically any manager is going to want 4 years so based on 5 million which seems to be the going rate for clubs our size thats 20 million.

 

Backroom staff for 4 years 4 million (guess work but I highly doubt an assistant manager at City is on less than 500k)

 

All educated guess's could be significantly more or less but that's 46 million. I hold my hands up significantly less than my 60 million first guess but  even if we agree that is 30-50 million for a club obviously short of cash and obviously in need in major investment in the playing staff come the summer is still a huge amount to pay with no guarantees of improvements and no guarantees we won't have to pay it all again in 6 months time if it goes pear shaped. 

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3 hours ago, The whole world smiles said:

Rodgers is 100 percent are best bet with the caveat that it would take 60 odd million to sack and replace him and there is no guarantee the replacement will be a success. 

 

People who understand football like John Percy, former chairman Jon Holmes and former board member James Johnson (cheers bslb pod) all know this to be true its a shame some of our more "entrenched" fans can't get their head around it. 

It would cost about £15m to remove Rodgers and his team, probably even less depending on certain factors.

Ric Flair

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7 minutes ago, The whole world smiles said:

10 million to pay Rodgers off which has been widely reported before - https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/rodgers-leicester-sack-compensation-package-27916779

 

2 million (guesswork) to pay off his backroom staff including Chris Davies and Glen Driscoll. 

 

10 million to buy a manager and his staff out of the their current contract. (this would vary but as an example we paid 8.8 million to buy brendan out of Celtic and that was 4 years ago and in Scotland https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/leicester-celtic-brendan-rodgers-compensation-3507597) 

 

New manager contract realistically any manager is going to want 4 years so based on 5 million which seems to be the going rate for clubs our size thats 20 million.

 

Backroom staff for 4 years 4 million (guess work but I highly doubt an assistant manager at City is on less than 500k)

 

All educated guess's could be significantly more or less but that's 46 million. I hold my hands up significantly less than my 60 million first guess but  even if we agree that is 30-50 million for a club obviously short of cash and obviously in need in major investment in the playing staff come the summer is still a huge amount to pay with no guarantees of improvements and no guarantees we won't have to pay it all again in 6 months time if it goes pear shaped. 

What you're failing to factor in is we pay Rodgers £10m a year and will do for another 2.5 years. The cost of a new manager would be less than that as there's no way we pay any new manager the same terms Rodgers was on.

 

I've said this time and time again, the longer Rodgers stays the costlier it is overall in pound notes.

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8 hours ago, CosbehFox said:

Doesn’t surprise me on Kasper - I knew in the early days of Nige, a lot said he was arrogant. Particularly to staff around the training ground. 

is it still arrogance if you back it up? 

Ric Flair

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15 minutes ago, The whole world smiles said:

What about buying out the new man and his team unless you fancy a spin on a out of contract manager? https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/trainer/verfuegbaretrainer/statistik

Not a problem, Arne Slot would cost about £4m in compensation and you could treble his wages and he'd still be on about half what Brendan is on and I repeat, over the next 3 years we'd save money. NEXT

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29 minutes ago, The whole world smiles said:

10 million to pay Rodgers off which has been widely reported before - https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/rodgers-leicester-sack-compensation-package-27916779

 

2 million (guesswork) to pay off his backroom staff including Chris Davies and Glen Driscoll. 

 

10 million to buy a manager and his staff out of the their current contract. (this would vary but as an example we paid 8.8 million to buy brendan out of Celtic and that was 4 years ago and in Scotland https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/leicester-celtic-brendan-rodgers-compensation-3507597) 

 

New manager contract realistically any manager is going to want 4 years so based on 5 million which seems to be the going rate for clubs our size thats 20 million.

 

Backroom staff for 4 years 4 million (guess work but I highly doubt an assistant manager at City is on less than 500k)

 

All educated guess's could be significantly more or less but that's 46 million. I hold my hands up significantly less than my 60 million first guess but  even if we agree that is 30-50 million for a club obviously short of cash and obviously in need in major investment in the playing staff come the summer is still a huge amount to pay with no guarantees of improvements and no guarantees we won't have to pay it all again in 6 months time if it goes pear shaped. 

...we cannot be afraid to get someone else in, just because we are afraid!!!

 There was no guarantee that Rodgers was going to be a success, but we took the chance to go all out and get him.

  Rodgers has 2 more years and a bit to go, if you use the metric of £10m per season, then that would be £5m less per season 

, so over 2 season that is a £10m savings.

  A new manager does not get his total contract paid on the first year, so that £20m is a red herring. An out of contract manager brings that amount down significantly. 

 

coolhandfox

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15 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Not a problem, Arne Slot would cost about £4m in compensation and you could treble his wages and he'd still be on about half what Brendan is on and I repeat, over the next 3 years we'd save money. NEXT

Honestly think the club is very unlikely to move Rodgers on any time soon.

 

 

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4 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

Honestly think the club is very unlikely to move Rodgers on any time soon.

 

 

I'd not either right now to be fair but I'm still very concerned he has a long term future here. The next few months are yet again massive for our future.

 

 

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44 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

Honestly think the club is very unlikely to move Rodgers on any time soon.

Main takeaway from that article is that he's under no pressure. I've got to hand it to him, he's brilliant at brainwashing people and lowering expectations without any of that being supposedly down to him.

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33 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

I'd not either right now to be fair but I'm still very concerned he has a long term future here. The next few months are yet again massive for our future.

 

 

If you take Danny Ward out of the equation and replace him with a keeper who's at least half-decent, don't you think Leicester would be at least mid-table or slightly higher even with Brendan? I mean, our players have shown that they're capable of playing brilliant attacking football when they want to, but Danny Ward is like a sieve in goal.

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42 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

I'd not either right now to be fair but I'm still very concerned he has a long term future here. The next few months are yet again massive for our future.

 

 

I more comfortable now we seem to have addressed some of the issues with recruitment side of things.

 

We need to have a couple of really good windows.

 

I think the club hierarchy feel they made partial responsibility for the issues this season. 

 

If we can get recruitment, medical and the Academy right, Rodgers can still be a good coach.

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Ric Flair

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1 minute ago, FoxTimmy2 said:

If you take Danny Ward out of the equation and replace him with a keeper who's at least half-decent, don't you think Leicester would be at least mid-table or slightly higher even with Brendan? I mean, our players have shown that they're capable of playing brilliant attacking football when they want to, but Danny Ward is like a sieve in goal.

I think so yes, and this is fully on Brendan that he's stuck with Ward and ignored Iversen. The club tucked him up last summer and didn't replace Kasper but everything since then is down to Brendan on our issues with our goalkeeper.

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1 minute ago, Ric Flair said:

I think so yes, and this is fully on Brendan that he's stuck with Ward and ignored Iversen. The club tucked him up last summer and didn't replace Kasper but everything since then is down to Brendan on our issues with our goalkeeper.

Still feel we will see Iversen soon, feel Rodgers is running out of patience with Ward.

 

He was referring to him by name at the start of the season, now he often says the goalkeeper.

 

Still think internal the club wrote this season off before we kicked off, finish middle table rebuild.

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