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Telegraph: "Four years on, the Brendan Rodgers formula is still Leicester City's best bet"

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2 hours ago, Chocolate Teapot said:

Because the bloke is a weapon and he'd go straight to top demanding new terms as soon as anyone else got a new deal. He wasn't a team player, it was the kasper show.

Absolutely amazes me how few of our fans realise this lol 

 

He's so similar to BR too in that he has a superb good PR machine to hide this side.

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48 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

Take our chances and go 2-0 it's a different game, we don't have to be as open. 

 

Goals change games. 

 

 

 

Which is equally true of the Villa game, if they'd have taken their chances we might not win.

 

The xG against United was 4.1 - 1.4 to them, 3-0 was quite fair

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Kasper for the majority of his time here gave his all and single handily won us points. It’s clear he’s a winner and wants to win. You’re not going to get on with everyone in the club but to me when I watched him play he always seemed like a leader.

 

I think the bigger problem is in a year our manager has shipped out our captain and now our vice captain… who’s got the bigger ego?


 

 

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My opinion on whether Rodgers should or shouldn't be our manager changes constantly.

 

Ultimately, I really do think that he's the best we could hope for and I think that my opinion on that changes because I find him extremely unlikeable. 

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17 minutes ago, TheUltimateWinner said:

Kasper for the majority of his time here gave his all and single handily won us points. It’s clear he’s a winner and wants to win. You’re not going to get on with everyone in the club but to me when I watched him play he always seemed like a leader.

 

I think the bigger problem is in a year our manager has shipped out our captain and now our vice captain… who’s got the bigger ego?


 

 

Judging from his WBA career so far, it was absolutely the right decision to ‘ship out’ Albrighton 

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3 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

My opinion on whether Rodgers should or shouldn't be our manager changes constantly.

 

Ultimately, I really do think that he's the best we could hope for and I think that my opinion on that changes because I find him extremely unlikeable. 

We've conceded the 2nd most goals and 2nd most xG - we can hope for a lot better than that.

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49 minutes ago, TheUltimateWinner said:

Kasper for the majority of his time here gave his all and single handily won us points. It’s clear he’s a winner and wants to win. You’re not going to get on with everyone in the club but to me when I watched him play he always seemed like a leader.

 

I think the bigger problem is in a year our manager has shipped out our captain and now our vice captain… who’s got the bigger ego?


 

 

Talk about twist the fact to suit your case . He didn’t ship out Kevin it’s well documented from his own mouth that  he wanted to be playing football  and the manager let him . Also well documented that Kasper wanted a new challenge, to play in Europe again and would not sign a reduced salary contract like Vardy 

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45 minutes ago, Stadt said:

Which is equally true of the Villa game, if they'd have taken their chances we might not win.

 

The xG against United was 4.1 - 1.4 to them, 3-0 was quite fair

True, Villa game could have gone either way.

 

But you could say that about Forest away game if Barnes takes he two chances before they score.

 

Not saying the end result was unfair, just that taking our chances and the end result and xG could have been a lot different. 

 

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1 hour ago, Stadt said:

Which is equally true of the Villa game, if they'd have taken their chances we might not win.

 

The xG against United was 4.1 - 1.4 to them, 3-0 was quite fair

So what you're saying is Danny Ward conceded 1.1 goals LESS than the expected xG?

 

:ricardo:

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6 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

True, Villa game could have gone either way.

 

But you could say that about Forest away game if Barnes takes he two chances before they score.

 

Not saying the end result was unfair, just that taking our chances and the end result and xG could have been a lot different. 

 

It’s all hypothetical so difficult to predict x and y but given we were so porous anyway - if we went one up, I’d expect they would have gone up a gear and won anyway. Difficult to say with any certainty though 

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The article is not balanced at all as it fails to mention the decline across the board in very little detail.

 

Man for man our starting 11 is worse than the one from his first full season and even arguably worse than the one he took from Puel. Our best players are running down contracts and show no inclination of wanting to stay. Our finances are a mess and are being propped up by loans secured on 2027s TV revenue. Our league position, points, results and performances are getting worse season on season. 

 

Those are the solid facts neglecting to mention that if you watch this team regularly enough you would know that they have the mental strength of a soggy rich tea biscuit and can't handle any pressure at all.

 

The media and Rodgers can't live off the FA cup win forever. When things are good they are good but the good times are becoming fewer and further between. 

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It's just Brendan's PR machine in overdrive. I hope we have a strong run and finish in the top half, Brendan's reputation stays intact and Spurs or Chelsea come in for him. I'm fed up with him but the only way he's going is if somebody pays up.

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4 hours ago, Matt_Lcfc said:

Stringer just labelled it as a ‘balanced article’ on Twitter. I agree with some of his arguments, but this is clearly not neutral. The brown-nosing is so evident.

 

I guess from a journalist point of view, he wants to maintain good relations so he can extract good information, but this is classic Rodgers propaganda. 
 

A couple of good results (which he bases his argument around) and the wool is pulled back over the eyes of the footballing world. Football fans are fickle, but not this fickle, the jury is still out. 

Of course he did, Rodgers was nice to him after he left BBCRL. 
 

I really don’t know what the point of that article was other than to give a superficial history of the last few years and provide some positive PR for the manager ahead of a very difficult game.

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32 minutes ago, Dames said:

The article is not balanced at all as it fails to mention the decline across the board in very little detail.

 

Man for man our starting 11 is worse than the one from his first full season and even arguably worse than the one he took from Puel. Our best players are running down contracts and show no inclination of wanting to stay. Our finances are a mess and are being propped up by loans secured on 2027s TV revenue. Our league position, points, results and performances are getting worse season on season. 

 

Those are the solid facts neglecting to mention that if you watch this team regularly enough you would know that they have the mental strength of a soggy rich tea biscuit and can't handle any pressure at all.

 

The media and Rodgers can't live off the FA cup win forever. When things are good they are good but the good times are becoming fewer and further between. 

Yeah I've read the whole thing now and it's extremely one-sided. Not entirely untrue, but the argument he's so protected it's unreal.

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Failed to mention the decline in the starting 11. The team he inherited in 2019 would cook this current team. Failed to proper replace the aging players and the defence is a complete joke to what it used to be.

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4 hours ago, ealingfox said:

If anyone can give me a good reason to expect that the negative season on season trends in respect of our performances, particularly defensively, won't continue then I'd like to hear it.

There was no investment in the squad for 3 windows in a row. Even Alex Fergusson would struggle in the modern ultra competitive PL with that constraint, and without that, Rodgers gave us our 2nd and 3rd highest ever finish and and FA Cup. The shackles should be lifted this summer, and we can hopefully start looking upwards again.

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I must be the only one who sees it pretty much the same as Percy says it in that article lol 

 

People love to moan I guess. 

 

And the issues that people seem to be moaning about are finances (the board and owner's fault), the starting 11 not improving (FFP constraints and recruitment team errors - although Congerton was Rodgers' man so I'll concede that is partially at BR's doorstep), and things that are a bit out of any managers' hands like injuries and age catching up to massively influential players in Schmeichel, Evans and Vardy. 

 

I do think there has been times particularly both this season and in 21/22 where Rodgers has got his tactics wrong or made bad decisions which have cost us points, and his teams do sometimes have a soft underbelly, but I'm willing to look beyond those things to a certain extent because he is probably the best manager a club of our size and ambition could attract. His LCFC teams have produced some of the best football I've seen Leicester play at times.

 

If we get him what he needs in terms of personnel in the summer then he'll get us results on the pitch. Excluding the 2nd half vs Man United, the last 3 games have shown that when he has the components, the players will perform. I think any manager would have struggled the first half of this season with our starting 11 pre-January. 

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17 minutes ago, Dan LCFC said:

Yeah I've read the whole thing now and it's extremely one-sided. Not entirely untrue, but the argument he's so protected it's unreal.

Its essentially a 10 million pounds a year investment in managed decline. Without this PR and other ones like it he would have been toast a long time ago. 

 

16 minutes ago, Koke said:

Failed to mention the decline in the starting 11. The team he inherited in 2019 would cook this current team. Failed to proper replace the aging players and the defence is a complete joke to what it used to be.

It'd be a 4/5-0 job to the 2019 team. 

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8 minutes ago, jim5000 said:

There was no investment in the squad for 3 windows in a row. Even Alex Fergusson would struggle in the modern ultra competitive PL with that constraint, and without that, Rodgers gave us our 2nd and 3rd highest ever finish and and FA Cup. The shackles should be lifted this summer, and we can hopefully start looking upwards again.

I think Rodgers is a bit of a victim of his own success. He performed miracles the first 2 seasons and then last season and this one so far have been average, and people have confused average with poor.

 

For a club like ours, when we've spent what we have compared to our rivals etc., I think we've done OK. 

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2 minutes ago, Pete52 said:

I must be the only one who sees it pretty much the same as Percy says it in that article lol 

 

People love to moan I guess. 

 

And the issues that people seem to be moaning about are finances (the board and owner's fault), the starting 11 not improving (FFP constraints and recruitment team errors - although Congerton was Rodgers' man so I'll concede that is partially at BR's doorstep), and things that are a bit out of any managers' hands like injuries and age catching up to massively influential players in Schmeichel, Evans and Vardy. 

 

I do think there has been times particularly both this season and in 21/22 where Rodgers has got his tactics wrong or made bad decisions which have cost us points, and his teams do sometimes have a soft underbelly, but I'm willing to look beyond those things to a certain extent because he is probably the best manager a club of our size and ambition could attract. His LCFC teams have produced some of the best football I've seen Leicester play at times.

 

If we get him what he needs in terms of personnel in the summer then he'll get us results on the pitch. Excluding the 2nd half vs Man United, the last 3 games have shown that when he has the components, the players will perform. I think any manager would have struggled the first half of this season with our starting 11 pre-January. 

Its a myth that he hasn't been backed its been 4 years and over 300 million pounds. This is his team, his personnel and they are getting worse year on year.

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4 hours ago, Matt_Lcfc said:

Stringer just labelled it as a ‘balanced article’ on Twitter. I agree with some of his arguments, but this is clearly not neutral. The brown-nosing is so evident.

 

I guess from a journalist point of view, he wants to maintain good relations so he can extract good information, but this is classic Rodgers propaganda. 
 

A couple of good results (which he bases his argument around) and the wool is pulled back over the eyes of the footballing world. Football fans are fickle, but not this fickle, the jury is still out. 

Yeah it's not balanced at all, Brendan has earnt the right for plenty of credit and to ride out some of the regression and poor spells but Percy absolutely loves Brendan and not a chance he'd throw him under the bus like he did with previous managers.

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