ID required for away tickets

[Mike the Metal Ed]

33 minutes ago, Fox-66 said:

So we agree 'that the passing on of tickets is not great'. It is also in breach of the T&C of buying that ticket, but let's hold that for a minute.

 

So what would be your suggestion of the other ways of making the system fairer?

 

NB - As an 'honest person' any perceived 'unnecessary inconvenience' would not be an inconvenience.

 

In my opinion the honest have nothing to fear with this process. Those who pass on tickets, which we both agree is 'not great', are the ones who are under 'threat' and I have zero problem with that.

 

 

Bloody hell, the powers that be needn't worry about having muddy boots with you around.

[Guest Fox-66]

I must sincerely apologise for following the rules and also for calling out those who consider themselves duly privileged and free to abuse those rules to the detriment of fellow supporters. 

 

 

 

 

[Leicester_Loyal]

2 hours ago, Fox-66 said:

NB - As an 'honest person' any perceived 'unnecessary inconvenience' would not be an inconvenience.

 

 

Good for you. 
 

I personally couldn’t think of anything worse than having to leave all my mates to head to the ground 30 mins early to collect my tickets with my ID.

 

 

EDIT: You were trying to buy a Stockport ticket off someone in the tickets thread earlier in the season, so those dishonest people, you’re one of them 

Edited 26 February 2023 by Leicester_Loyal

[KrefelderFox666]

4 hours ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

Good for you. 
 

I personally couldn’t think of anything worse than having to leave all my mates to head to the ground 30 mins early to collect my tickets with my ID.

 

 

EDIT: You were trying to buy a Stockport ticket off someone in the tickets thread earlier in the season, so those dishonest people, you’re one of them 

Say no more...

[phoneticerror]

8 hours ago, Fox-66 said:

IMO, this move is totally ‘doing the right thing by our supporters’. 

 

Our club are attempting to crack down on supporters who buy tickets just to kept their high away points and then selling them to people who do not have sufficient points, or may not even be ST holders or members. 

 

When people do that it is they are not only in breach of the terms and conditions of buying a ticket, but they are possibly depriving those with a lower points tally of legitimately buying a ticket.

 

I applaud this action by the club and hope that it leads to a reduction in the abuse of the away ticket process. 

Missing the point entirely 

[Raj]

Maybe something should be done to stop some supporters from buying all the away tickets to keep their priority points high and then selling them in when they cant go, although I have gained from that position myself in all honesty BUT not sure this is the action they should be taking.

 

[Footballwipe]

Inevitable that the "nothing to hide, nothing to fear" audience would be out presenting themselves in this thread.

 

Unbelievable what some people want to accept. These are match tickets to a sporting event. That's it. That's literally it. This level of overzealous checking for match tickets to a sporting event. Jesus.

[phoneticerror]

2 minutes ago, Footballwipe said:

Inevitable that the "nothing to hide, nothing to fear" audience would be out presenting themselves in this thread.

 

Unbelievable what some people want to accept. These are match tickets to a sporting event. That's it. That's literally it. This level of overzealous checking for match tickets to a sporting event. Jesus.

Some people don’t have much going on in their lives mate, so being top of a ticket priority list is the way they feel successful. Best to leave those ones to it.

Edited 26 February 2023 by phoneticerror

[CosbehFox]

9 hours ago, Freeman's Wharfer said:

The same club don’t put tickets on general sale for home games. Let’s not pretend they do the right things by supporters when it comes to ticketing.

But still have occasions like today when numerous Arsenal fans are in the home end. 

[grobyfox1990]

 

 

[CosbehFox]

Also you have to remove the club refuse point blank to accept a return on away ticket - I know plenty last season what couldn’t go cos of Covid. Rather than be helpful, they just expected you to lose £30 (or if you were family upwards of £60+)

[adejo92]

On 24/02/2023 at 18:28, phoneticerror said:

The club have got the ticketing system all wrong any way. 

I think the club have got almost every aspect of running a football club wrong.

 

There will be a dress code soon.

Edited 26 February 2023 by adejo92

[Blue717]

Not read much about this and can’t really

be bothered to go back and check but isn’t this a good thing for fans on the lower end of the brackets? Isn’t it going to stop top tier buying in fear of not being able to sell them on? 

[Guest worth_the_wait]

Putting my serious head back on (after my rant on Friday night) ...
 
In my opinion, the away priority problems are all of the club's making.  They stem from the 2014-15 season when they started giving away priority points to season ticket holders.  They added on 100 points for that season.   So in the space of a close season, a person with one year's home season ticket had more away priority than someone who had attended 99 away games (but didn't have a season ticket).   And that gets worse every year with 50 more away priority points.    As has been said before, how are youngsters supposed to build up any away priority?
 
It was obviously a cynical ploy to make season tickets more attractive, but it was stupid ... as there were enough benefits from simply have your own reserved seat to watch the best top flight football in the world.   We were going to sell out of the max 23,000 season tickets anyway.   There was just no need to add in extra away priority.   It benefitted me, but I never wanted it, and would happily go back to the old system.
 
That instantly led to 2 problems.   It started to "neuter" our away support by dis-enfranchaising those without season tickets.   But it then also started to encourage some people to "sell on" their away priority to other people.   So it then became a vicious circle.  Those without season tickets had to start asking favours from ST holders to get hold of away tickets.   And so the process grows with each season.

 

I felt sorry for those that now lived a long way from Leicester ... too far to justify having a season ticket, but who used to always turn out and support us away when we played in that part of the country.  And before anyone asks, yes, there are 1000's of us who have moved away from Leicestershire because we had to for jobs etc.

 

[Lcfc098]

Club could have resolved this by changing the priority system around but they would then have to admit that they got it wrong in the first place and the club can never do no wrong so I’m assuming that won’t happen.

[KrefelderFox666]

2 hours ago, Raj said:

Maybe something should be done to stop some supporters from buying all the away tickets to keep their priority points high and then selling them in when they cant go, although I have gained from that position myself in all honesty BUT not sure this is the action they should be taking.

 

It's extremely difficult to crack down on without inconveniencing people. And I would rather the club don't go down this route.

 

It would be much simpler for the club to make the distribution of tickets fairer and start by changing the priority points system as a minimum. ST's should not be weighted at 50 points for starters.

[Raj]

37 minutes ago, KrefelderFox666 said:

It's extremely difficult to crack down on without inconveniencing people. And I would rather the club don't go down this route.

 

It would be much simpler for the club to make the distribution of tickets fairer and start by changing the priority points system as a minimum. ST's should not be weighted at 50 points for starters.

What would you propose?

Not asking in a bitchy way by the way😁

[goose2010]

I was in the counting house yesterday as meet a few mates that were in the away end yesterday. They were saying arsenal are clamping down on it as home tickets are selling for £700 plus at the minute! There was arsenal stewards attempting to get people's IDs to check against tickets. It massively kicked off and a few groups basically told them to F off. 

 

They were saying it was a league thing rather than an arsenal thing. Obviously not sure how true that is. 

[KrefelderFox666]

21 minutes ago, Raj said:

What would you propose?

Not asking in a bitchy way by the way😁

For the priority points etc.?

 

My view is to either scrap points for STHs completely or to starkly reduce the points. Example, 10 points for having a season ticket this season, 5 points for last season. Then have 1 point for each away game over the past 3 years or so. Members get 5 points for holding a membership. Then sell on that points system.

 

I also mentioned further up that tickets could be split out into some allocated to a ballot for STH's and members, some based on priority points (as above) and another allocation free for all (first come first served). That allows new people to have a chance while still giving those "loyals" or "regulars" tickets. Thus preventing a closed shop.

 

Just my ideas off the cuff.

[KrefelderFox666]

24 minutes ago, goose2010 said:

I was in the counting house yesterday as meet a few mates that were in the away end yesterday. They were saying arsenal are clamping down on it as home tickets are selling for £700 plus at the minute! There was arsenal stewards attempting to get people's IDs to check against tickets. It massively kicked off and a few groups basically told them to F off. 

 

They were saying it was a league thing rather than an arsenal thing. Obviously not sure how true that is. 

I can understand big clubs being under pressure as touting is a big issue but for our club that is just non-existent. Essentially, the authorities want to know everyone in every seat, completely OTT.

[Guest Fox-66]

12 hours ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

Good for you. 
 

I personally couldn’t think of anything worse than having to leave all my mates to head to the ground 30 mins early to collect my tickets with my ID.

 

 

EDIT: You were trying to buy a Stockport ticket off someone in the tickets thread earlier in the season, so those dishonest people, you’re one of them 

Sorry to disappoint you but I bought my ticket for Stockport via the legitimate process. (Although on refection that day would have been far better if I’d been stopped from attending the game and witnessing that dire performance!)

 

 

On a separate note, this forum does appears is getting as bad as Twitter; anyone who holds a differing opinion to mentally of the mob is attacked. 

 

I do find it sad that the prevailing, and arguably selfish view, in this thread is the continuing support the abuse of the Away ticket process and against an initiative to make the system fairer. (But maybe some people do not speak out through fear of the abuse they will face if they take a different view to the mob).

 

I am yet to hear constructive suggestions on how to make the system fairer but I guess self-interest prevents such suggestions as many just want to carry on breaking the rules.

 

I hope this ID plan is successful and the few (?) who are abusing their high priority ticket status are identified and relevant action taken against them! 

 

Cue the abuse, over to you ……   

[Leicester_Loyal]

13 minutes ago, Fox-66 said:

Sorry to disappoint you but I bought my ticket for Stockport via the legitimate process. (Although on refection that day would have been far better if I’d been stopped from attending the game and witnessing that dire performance!)

 

 

 

You bought it via the legitimate process after trying to purchase it through the forum thread. Your post in there afterwards said you had now got one and no longer needed one. The thread is still there if you wanna go back and read it. 
 

So it’s ok for you to contribute to this dishonest process of obtaining away priority points but not ok for others to do so?? 
 

For what it’s worth this process will probably benefit me more than most others as I daren’t sell my tickets when I don’t go incase some idiot gets me banned. 

[MS0204]

2 minutes ago, Fox-66 said:

Sorry to disappoint you but I bought my ticket for Stockport via the legitimate process. (Although on refection that day would have been far better if I’d been stopped from attending the game and witnessing that dire performance!)

 

 

On a separate note, this forum does appears is getting as bad as Twitter; anyone who holds a differing opinion to mentally of the mob is attacked. 

 

I do find it sad that the prevailing, and arguably selfish view, in this thread is the continuing support the abuse of the Away ticket process and against an initiative to make the system fairer. (But maybe some people do not speak out through fear of the abuse they will face if they take a different view to the mob).

 

I am yet to hear constructive suggestions on how to make the system fairer but I guess self-interest prevents such suggestions as many just want to carry on breaking the rules.

 

I hope this ID plan is successful and the few (?) who are abusing their high priority ticket status are identified and relevant action taken against them! 

 

Cue the abuse, over to you ……   

You did however enquire about tickets so whether you got it legit after or not, you still would have done what so many others on here are doing and trying to obtain tickets through others..

 

If you read just above krefelderfox666 makes a very valid suggestion in doing it fairly and offering members the chance through a ballot (and a fairer one than the current shitty one they do now). It’s a difficult one for me as being a member it’s extremely limited to get away tickets. I seen this elderly woman at old Trafford and said to my mate “fair play to her, we saw her at Everton last season and Stockport, she must travel the length of the country at her age” and good on the woman. Only thing is due to the process in place then she will always be in top priority.. 

 

I just don’t buy the excuses of anti social behaviour and touting. I believe that only once I’ve heard a ticket was put on a resale site and holder banned for a couple of years but other than that they’ve always been sold at face value.. i as a member have been lucky but limited. Flip it round, members want the chance also, currently the membership offers next to nothing apart from home tickets. 
 

Your lucky that your in the position to enjoy aways week in week out, but it’s a dog eat dog world and I hope I can continue the chance to also still look for tickets here and there. Nothing different than what any other premier league clubs fans are doing.. 

[Ashley]

Is there a problem with the current ticketing priority? I don't think there is. 

 

Granted, STH shouldn't get those extra 50 points but look how many games have made general sale, there has been enough opportunities for folk to build up their points. 

 

Anyway onto the next issue. The club will only sell tickets to people who have either STH or active memberships meaning they want to to pay more money just to get tickets. Take Southampton for example and this is just one of the games it's happened this season... no general sale.

 

Fans need to start calling the above out as an absolute shambles.. things then may change.

[adejo92]

I Don't think the club care at all about the fans or general match day experience / atmosphere.

 

Such awful running of the club and then the odd gift to appease the supporters and prevent uproar.

 

It's a bit like an abusive relationship...Abuse....buy flowers to appease victim.....abuse.....buy flowers to appease victim...buy flowers....

 

Clubs being sucked of any life on and off the field.