StriderHiryu Posted 29 May 2023 Posted 29 May 2023 2 minutes ago, Happy Fox said: We should have offered him the contract he wanted instead of going for Smith, he would have kept us up I reckon or if we did go down (and now we have) definitely got us in the mix for promotion. If we can convince him to come now it would be a coup far better than all the dross at this level. Experience counts! Personally I’d bring Pearson back home as all of our recent successes were built off the foundations he set. But Rafa is as good as you’ll get for where we are now. 1
Supergray22 Posted 29 May 2023 Posted 29 May 2023 22 minutes ago, LVFox said: We need to move quickly and ambitiously. None of the arrogance and malaise that saw us relegated. For what it's worth, I think this is a poor championship we are going into and our main competition will be Saints and Leeds. Sunderland probably best placed to improve on this year from current crop. It will be a tough league. Middlesbrough will be there too and the likes of Bristol, Coventry etc have a head start in us in terms of pre season. It is going to be a battle and some shrewd decisions need to be made quite quickly.
Happy Fox Posted 29 May 2023 Posted 29 May 2023 Just now, StriderHiryu said: Experience counts! Personally I’d bring Pearson back home as all of our recent successes were built off the foundations he set. But Rafa is as good as you’ll get for where we are now. I don't think inexperience or potential is that bad look at Kompany was in post at Anderlecht and went to Burnley but I feel with us we cannot gamble with someone with potential for our championship campaign we need someone that knows the championship and can do the business in the premier league that's why we have to go for Rafa.
lcfcfoz Posted 29 May 2023 Posted 29 May 2023 Get Mckenna in from Ipswich, new manager for present sorted and long term. Get Chaplin in too and Boadhead as replacement for Barnes, go again.
Mickyblueeyes Posted 29 May 2023 Posted 29 May 2023 Do you remember last season when there was people on here who “didn’t want Mourinho” Look at our choices now. 3
Poznan34 Posted 29 May 2023 Posted 29 May 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, Sly said: Current early betting odds have us and Leeds (unsurprisingly) as favourites to gain promotion. Leicester - 5/1 Leeds - 11/2 Middlesbrough - 10/1 Southampton - 10/1 Ipswich - 14/1 Norwich - 14/1 Watford - 14/1 West Brom - 14/1 Stoke - 20/1 Sunderland - 20/1 Blackburn - 25/1 Coventry - 25/1 Millwall - 25/1 Swansea - 25/1 Hull - 28/1 Birmingham - 33/1 Cardiff - 33/1 Bristol City - 40/1 Plymouth - 40/1 Preston - 40/1 QPR - 40/1 Huddersfield - 50/1 Rotherham - 80/1 Ipswich high up in that list coming out of League 1, weak league or were Ipswich just way too good for League 1? 66 GD suggests the latter. I can Middlesbrough winning it, they were going well under Carrick. Maybe we could take him. Edited 29 May 2023 by Poznan34
BenTheFox Posted 29 May 2023 Posted 29 May 2023 12 hours ago, HybridFox said: First of all abandon that glamour tournament in Asia and get an appropriate pre season in I quite like the thought of us being kicked out of it because we're not in the Premier league. The club's hierarchy deserve the embarrassment. 4
HybridFox Posted 29 May 2023 Posted 29 May 2023 5 hours ago, Sly said: Current early betting odds have us and Leeds (unsurprisingly) as favourites to gain promotion. Leicester - 5/1 Leeds - 11/2 Middlesbrough - 10/1 Southampton - 10/1 Ipswich - 14/1 Norwich - 14/1 Watford - 14/1 West Brom - 14/1 Stoke - 20/1 Sunderland - 20/1 Blackburn - 25/1 Coventry - 25/1 Millwall - 25/1 Swansea - 25/1 Hull - 28/1 Birmingham - 33/1 Cardiff - 33/1 Bristol City - 40/1 Plymouth - 40/1 Preston - 40/1 QPR - 40/1 Huddersfield - 50/1 Rotherham - 80/1 Southampton should be above both us. They look the most prepped to come up
BenTheFox Posted 29 May 2023 Posted 29 May 2023 The standard of football in the play-off final on Saturday was not good. If we can get our act together then we will have a chance of coming back up.
StanSP Posted 29 May 2023 Posted 29 May 2023 Think it'll be between us, Leeds, Coventry, Blackburn, Middlesbrough vying for the top spots.
Happy Fox Posted 29 May 2023 Posted 29 May 2023 Just now, StanSP said: Think it'll be between us, Leeds, Coventry, Blackburn, Middlesbrough vying for the top spots. I can see Norwich and Sunderland challenging as well.
Happy Fox Posted 29 May 2023 Posted 29 May 2023 (edited) League table[edit] Pos Team v t e Pld W D L GF GA GD Pts Promotion, qualification or relegation 1 Burnley (C, P) 46 29 14 3 87 35 +52 101 Promotion to Premier League 2 Sheffield United (P) 46 28 7 11 73 39 +34 91 3 Luton Town (O, P) 46 21 17 8 57 39 +18 80 Qualification for Championship play-offs 4 Middlesbrough 46 22 9 15 84 56 +28 75 5 Coventry City 46 18 16 12 58 46 +12 70 6 Sunderland 46 18 15 13 68 55 +13 69 7 Blackburn Rovers 46 20 9 17 52 54 −2 69 8 Millwall 46 19 11 16 57 50 +7 68 9 West Bromwich Albion 46 18 12 16 59 53 +6 66 10 Swansea City 46 18 12 16 68 64 +4 66 11 Watford 46 16 15 15 56 53 +3 63 12 Preston North End 46 17 12 17 45 59 −14 63 13 Norwich City 46 17 11 18 57 54 +3 62 14 Bristol City 46 15 14 17 55 56 −1 59 15 Hull City 46 14 16 16 51 61 −10 58 16 Stoke City 46 14 11 21 55 54 +1 53 17 Birmingham City 46 14 11 21 47 58 −11 53 18 Huddersfield Town 46 14 11 21 47 62 −15 53 19 Rotherham United 46 11 17 18 49 60 −11 50 20 Queens Park Rangers 46 13 11 22 44 71 −27 50 21 Cardiff City 46 13 10 23 41 58 −17 49 22 Reading (R) 46 13 11 22 46 68 −22 44[a] Relegation to League One 23 Blackpool (R) 46 11 11 24 48 72 −24 44 24 Wigan Athletic (R) 46 10 15 21 38 65 −27 39[b It's mad how Luton got promoted (i know via with the playoffs) but they only scored 57 goals in the season. Edited 29 May 2023 by Happy Fox
BenTheFox Posted 29 May 2023 Posted 29 May 2023 3 minutes ago, StanSP said: Think it'll be between us, Leeds, Coventry, Blackburn, Middlesbrough vying for the top spots. I expect Southampton to win the league. 2
beepee1984 Posted 29 May 2023 Posted 29 May 2023 3 minutes ago, StanSP said: Think it'll be between us, Leeds, Coventry, Blackburn, Middlesbrough vying for the top spots. The league is completely open, there are no stand out teams to me. It all depends on who is prepared and gets a good start to the season
StanSP Posted 29 May 2023 Posted 29 May 2023 2 minutes ago, beepee1984 said: The league is completely open, there are no stand out teams to me. It all depends on who is prepared and gets a good start to the season Not all about good starts. We need a solid structure with players ready for the fight and prepared to put in the hard yards every few days. These current players would barely do it once a week. Other teams have had very good starts and then tail off.
Sly Posted 29 May 2023 Author Posted 29 May 2023 (edited) I make the timeline heading into this season as follows: 10th June - Retained players list announced. As well as the above, I’d expect the development teams to taking a culling. We already know Pennant has been cut. 14th June - Domestic Transfer window opens. 22nd June - EFL fixtures are released at 9AM. 31st June - Contracts expire for Soyuncu, Tielemans, Mendy, Amartey, Evans, Tete and Bertrand. 1st July - International Transfer window opens. August 4th - Championship kickoff 1st September - Transfer window closes. Edited 29 May 2023 by Sly
Livid Posted 29 May 2023 Posted 29 May 2023 Clinton Morrison on Sky though we really need to bounce back up straight away. I don’t think I could put up with his inane drivel for more than a season.
StanSP Posted 29 May 2023 Posted 29 May 2023 7 minutes ago, Happy Fox said: I can see Norwich and Sunderland challenging as well. 5 minutes ago, BenTheFox said: I expect Southampton to win the league. Yeah Sunderland are a good shout. I'm not sure on Southampton. Mainly because of the new manager - not sure if Martin is enough given his record at Swansea? They conceded a lot.
StanSP Posted 29 May 2023 Posted 29 May 2023 1 minute ago, Sly said: 31st May - Contracts expire for Soyuncu, Tielemans, Mendy, Amartey, Evans, Tete and Bertrand End of June, I'd have thought.
Sly Posted 29 May 2023 Author Posted 29 May 2023 2 minutes ago, StanSP said: End of June, I'd have thought. Sorry, you’re correct!
beepee1984 Posted 29 May 2023 Posted 29 May 2023 1 minute ago, StanSP said: Not all about good starts. We need a solid structure with players ready for the fight and prepared to put in the hard yards every few days. These current players would barely do it once a week. Other teams have had very good starts and then tail off. I agree completely, it is not just about good start. Not all good starts will be rewarded, but if any team is going to stamp their authority on the championship next season they will have a good start. We do need players who will fight and that means new players. We have to bring them in sooner rather than later so we are fully prepared
StevieH Posted 29 May 2023 Posted 29 May 2023 Don't worry we'll be back in the Prem for next season when Everton get kicked out for FFP breaches.
Kierzz Posted 29 May 2023 Posted 29 May 2023 I hope the club has been crisis planning and has a list of players to recruit for next season in the championship. Getting this transfer window right is crucial to stop us spiralling down and have a chance at bouncing back.
Sir Shep Posted 29 May 2023 Posted 29 May 2023 Jeez we still have to pay those toss pots full whack for another month before they say cheerio. Not a bad way to live at all.
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