sacreblueits442 Posted 1 July 2023 Share Posted 1 July 2023 On 30/06/2023 at 08:58, baldeagle said: Niot me , I’m not one of the ones having a romantic few of the championship thinking we’ will walk it a horrible league to get out of. We got relegated as we had too many averages players amongst other things . If we fall into the same trap and keep average players on with the attitude they’ll do a job then we’re in for a long championship stay ...those average players should have been more than enough to have us finishing mid-table in the Premier League!!! The previous season we picked up cheap points at the end against teams who had already switched off with nothing to gain, except one team Everton, who picked up all the points. We should have terminated the manager then but chose to keep him in place, and his actions (or lack of them) saw that we drifted out of the league. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldeagle Posted 1 July 2023 Share Posted 1 July 2023 1 minute ago, sacreblueits442 said: ...those average players should have been more than enough to have us finishing mid-table in the Premier League!!! The previous season we picked up cheap points at the end against teams who had already switched off with nothing to gain, except one team Everton, who picked up all the points. We should have terminated the manager then but chose to keep him in place, and his actions (or lack of them) saw that we drifted out of the league. All should have, could have , would have . The fact is we didn’t and that’s why we find ourselves in the championship . Yes we should have got rid of him sooner but the fact remains we still had too many average players on high wages . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacreblueits442 Posted 1 July 2023 Share Posted 1 July 2023 10 minutes ago, baldeagle said: All should have, could have , would have . The fact is we didn’t and that’s why we find ourselves in the championship . Yes we should have got rid of him sooner but the fact remains we still had too many average players on high wages . ...this was the team in the 20/21 season, we finished 5th!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splinterdream Posted 1 July 2023 Share Posted 1 July 2023 Whilst Hamza might just not make the grade in the PL, I think he'd be of high value in the championship. I haven't watched him play for Watford, but if a championship manager who has watched him, wants him, that should tell you something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldeagle Posted 1 July 2023 Share Posted 1 July 2023 2 hours ago, sacreblueits442 said: ...this was the team in the 20/21 season, we finished 5th!!! I’d say only 5 of that team regularly played last season the rest were either out injured out of favour left and most massively out of form . It’s the rest of the squad that’s the problem more than anything . Look how many midfielders we have at the club. Then look at which ones are above average . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilvaFox Posted 13 July 2023 Share Posted 13 July 2023 On 29/06/2023 at 17:04, baldeagle said: If he’s that good why don’t Watford want to buy him , I'm sure it was a loan with an option to buy The option to buy was contingent on Watford getting promoted to the PL, that's why Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UniFox21 Posted 14 July 2023 Share Posted 14 July 2023 Very quiet on any front of him leaving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DezFox Posted 14 July 2023 Share Posted 14 July 2023 Can’t remember who we played against but remember that one game where he played centre back and played like peak Mascherano. 🤣 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaphamFox Posted 14 July 2023 Share Posted 14 July 2023 3 minutes ago, DezFox said: Can’t remember who we played against but remember that one game where he played centre back and played like peak Mascherano. 🤣 Liverpool at home. We won 1-0. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Posted 14 July 2023 Share Posted 14 July 2023 5 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said: Liverpool at home. We won 1-0. Then never played there again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzell Posted 14 July 2023 Share Posted 14 July 2023 I don’t know what kind of fee we would be demanding for him but I’d be happy to give him a chance this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westernpark Posted 14 July 2023 Share Posted 14 July 2023 25 minutes ago, DezFox said: Can’t remember who we played against but remember that one game where he played centre back and played like peak Mascherano. 🤣 Sure it was Watford in the cup? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Saxondale Posted 14 July 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 14 July 2023 4 minutes ago, westernpark said: Sure it was Watford in the cup? Yeah, it was. Great game. It was basically Choudhury centre back and the rest of the players were actual children. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phenom Posted 14 July 2023 Share Posted 14 July 2023 He can go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 14 July 2023 Share Posted 14 July 2023 5 minutes ago, Phenom said: He can go Is that just a personal opinion ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 14 July 2023 Share Posted 14 July 2023 6 hours ago, ClaphamFox said: Liverpool at home. We won 1-0. It was Watford at home in the cup. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phenom Posted 14 July 2023 Share Posted 14 July 2023 1 hour ago, st albans fox said: Is that just a personal opinion ? Of course. I’m not ITK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGLCFC Posted 15 July 2023 Share Posted 15 July 2023 (edited) I'm not convinced that Choudhury has the technical ability needed for the new system. Also, if his loan at Watford had been an absolute success, why aren't other Championship/ newly promoted Premier League clubs offering £3 to £4 million for him. This suggests to me he did ok, but nothing spectacular. With only 1 year left on his contract, I hope the Club would be tempted to sell, if there is a potential buyer. Edited 15 July 2023 by MGLCFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majaco Posted 15 July 2023 Share Posted 15 July 2023 When he played centre back against Watford, I see, to remember he got away with a couple of mistakes. Imo he was over-hyped because he showed passion during an injury crisis. I like Hamza but I wouldn't want to see him in the centre of defence. It will be interesting to see if Maresca feels he can develop his game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozartfox Posted 15 July 2023 Share Posted 15 July 2023 Surely Newcamel can afford him now? Barnes and Hamza for 45m - job done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verumex Posted 15 July 2023 Share Posted 15 July 2023 12 minutes ago, mozartfox said: Surely Newcamel can afford him now? Barnes and Hamza for 45m - job done. Are we giving them a discount for Barnes and throwing Choudhury in for free?? Glad it's not you at the negotiating table... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozartfox Posted 15 July 2023 Share Posted 15 July 2023 18 minutes ago, Verumex said: Are we giving them a discount for Barnes and throwing Choudhury in for free?? Glad it's not you at the negotiating table... If you think we will end up with more than 45m for both, you are smoking same gear as Duffkin. The cash and wages saved alone would help our promotion bid tremendously. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafewayFox Posted 15 July 2023 Share Posted 15 July 2023 Not our biggest issue right now. Will he start? Hopefully not. I wouldn’t mind him coming on later in the game and playing in the 8 position and harrying mistakes out of defenders after we’ve bored them to death with lots of possession football. He can’t play the Winks role though so if need to move on to free up spaces…I’m all for it but have a few other players I’d rather move on before Hamza. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ithuriel Posted 15 July 2023 Share Posted 15 July 2023 When he was first breaking through he had an excellent game against Arsenal. Problem with him is he takes risks where he probably should not and he stopped progressing, some coaching by Brendan there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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