James Justin

[Mickyblueeyes]

Managing players also includes taking them out of the firing line when it isn’t going well. Justin at this moment has been let down by both managers. Yes, the alternatives are not great but having your right back getting the brunt of criticism from fans and his team mates is also not acceptable. 
 

This playing himself into form is not working. He needs some time out of the limelight for his own good. 

[Genesis1]

I know this is a silly question and probably answered thousands of times here, but do we think the players read this forum? Because surely that must be awful to read thousands of comments slating you!! Thankfully he's got hundreds of thousands of pounds to keep him busy.

[SecretPro]

2 minutes ago, Genesis1 said:

I know this is a silly question and probably answered thousands of times here, but do we think the players read this forum? Because surely that must be awful to read thousands of comments slating you!! Thankfully he's got hundreds of thousands of pounds to keep him busy.

You'd have thought he might read twitter, in which case he's going to have seen lots of posts yesterday about how shit he is.

[SkidsFox]

17 minutes ago, Genesis1 said:

I know this is a silly question and probably answered thousands of times here, but do we think the players read this forum? Because surely that must be awful to read thousands of comments slating you!! Thankfully he's got hundreds of thousands of pounds to keep him busy.

A well-run club would advise its players to avoid paying attention to "noise" on social media platforms. So there is a danger they do read this forum!

Has to be said, this forum/fanbase seems to work out our best and worst players fairly accurately, and long before the manager cottons on...  Not sure why that should be. 

[dmayne7]

15 hours ago, Miquel The Work Geordie said:

 

He has, objectively, been absolute dog mess this season. Catastrophic at this level in 2025 and needs flogging.

 

But spending your Saturday night making a supercut of James Justin mistakes to try and intensify a social media pile on is ****ing pathetic and a bit shitbaggy. 

 

It's not his fault he's our only available right back while 40 million quid's worth of summer business were on the bench today.

 

(For clarity, I know you didn't make this @WoodyFox)

And worse when you look at the first bunch of goals and try to claim that he is the sole reason for them being scored. Nobody is going to sit here and say he hasn't been crap but in many of those clips, he is absolutely not the only 1 to blame. Can he do better? Yes. Should he do better? In some of them. But to solely blame him for some of those goals is embarrassing when there are many others who are equally culpable, if not more so. That area of the pitch is a huge deficiency even when a horribly out of form/awful James Justin isn't playing.

 

Also really highlights how thick our fanbase our to be posting that one about how he's cost us 18 points according to 'Opta'. You'll note how nobody has actually been able to find that actual stat 

 

And the comparisons to Danny Ward are one step too far. We had a better keeper available than Ward and as the Wolves game showed, he is quite obviously incapable of doing any facet of his job well. Yes, Justin has been awful but it's not even close to being on that level.

[Long Eaton Fox]

I have sympathy for him as he's had awful, career ending injuries. Came back well from them but now not the same england cap winning player he was. We do need a new right back though.

[Chelmofox]

Im struggling to see why Ayew is to blame. Firstly, the ball to Justin isn't really that difficult for him to deal with. Justin has several opportunities to get rid including early on on his left foot. After going around in circles, Justin can see Ayew is being pressed and gives him a really, really weak pass that plays into the Villa players hands. If you are Ayew, you are probably wondering if / when JJ was planning to do anything and must have become impossible to anticipate.  Lastly, JJ pulls out of giving away a foul as he must have assumed it was too close to the box and could have been a penalty. It's all on JJ that one, and just a collection of brain farts. 

[Claridge]

Just now, Chelmofox said:

Im struggling to see why Ayew is to blame. Firstly, the ball to Justin isn't really that difficult for him to deal with. Justin has several opportunities to get rid including early on on his left foot. After going around in circles, Justin can see Ayew is being pressed and gives him a really, really weak pass that plays into the Villa players hands. If you are Ayew, you are probably wondering if / when JJ was planning to do anything and must have become impossible to anticipate.  Lastly, JJ pulls out of giving away a foul as he must have assumed it was too close to the box and could have been a penalty. It's all on JJ that one, and just a collection of brain farts. 

Ayew has been one of our most effective players this year. Low bar I know, but there are a lot worse than him in the team

[ACF]

Hear me out.

 

 

 

 

Play Faes at RB. 
 

*ducks for cover*

[Sunbury Fox]

15 minutes ago, Chelmofox said:

Im struggling to see why Ayew is to blame. Firstly, the ball to Justin isn't really that difficult for him to deal with. Justin has several opportunities to get rid including early on on his left foot. After going around in circles, Justin can see Ayew is being pressed and gives him a really, really weak pass that plays into the Villa players hands. If you are Ayew, you are probably wondering if / when JJ was planning to do anything and must have become impossible to anticipate.  Lastly, JJ pulls out of giving away a foul as he must have assumed it was too close to the box and could have been a penalty. It's all on JJ that one, and just a collection of brain farts. 

Accidentally caught our game on MOTD this morning. In the analysis they said that Ayew basically gestured to Justin for him to clear the ball long. If so, it makes it even more puzzling why Justin attempted the short pass to him. Either way, I don’t see how Ayew can be considered at fault for the goal. It’s 100% Justin’s fault. 

[Tuna]

4 minutes ago, ACF said:

Hear me out.

 

 

 

 

Play Faes at RB. 
 

*ducks for cover*

It's not a bad idea

[Stadt]

He’s running Ward close for 22/23 at this rate. Absolutely wank and there’s no way Wormleighton, Hamza or Faes could be worse.

[funkyrobot]

10 hours ago, Finnegan said:

 

But we don't pick the team, pal. 

 

We can't control who Ruud picks. 

 

What we can control is how we, as fans, treat the players that play for our club. 

 

My point is just that, however poor his form might be at the moment, we don't need to cross a line. 

 

The point was you putting out a concern over JJ reading online abuse whilst simultaneously calling his form hideous is somewhat contradictory. The fact is, you are correct about his form (and incorrect about Hamza not being able to play in the fullback role.)

[CrazyKopCorner]

47 minutes ago, Long Eaton Fox said:

I have sympathy for him as he's had awful, career ending injuries. Came back well from them but now not the same england cap winning player he was. We do need a new right back though.

I agree and it must be terrible for him to be a shadow of the player he was. 

 

It looks to me as though he's in permanent, irreversible decline - How he moves, changes direction, initial speed etc have all gone. 

 

He looks like a player playing with a permanent injury to me but I think he's essentially just fuched. 

Edited 5 January by CrazyKopCorner

[ACF]

32 minutes ago, Tuna said:

It's not a bad idea

The movement starts now 👀

[Haywood_6]

37 minutes ago, ACF said:

Hear me out.

 

 

 

 

Play Faes at RB. 
 

*ducks for cover*

I actually think that's a good idea until we sign a RB. It's better than Choudury playing there for sure.

[Buzzell]

Yeh I feel for him. Yeh he’s been shit for a while now, obviously has no confidence whatsoever and needs taking out of the squad but it’s the managers who are at fault for keeping him in. 

[Buzzell]

4 minutes ago, Haywood_6 said:

I actually think that's a good idea until we sign a RB. It's better than Choudury playing there for sure.

Either that or revert to 3 at the back.

[Tazfox]

Danny Simpson still avaliable? Useless going forward but was an amazing defender 

[jmono84]

19 hours ago, Paninistickers said:

Ok, I'm gonna try defend the indefensible.....I thought he was trying to do the right thing. 

 

All the defenders plus winks and Bouba and Bilal have clearly been instructed to take an extra touch when deep and be braver. Make the less obvious pass.Risk and reward etc. And to an extent it worked today and v Man City. 

 

He tried not just to clear it out. He looked for a pass, delayed, looked again, delayed looked again. So far so good. Then he fooked up. 

Yes he fvcked the pass but his terrible effort to try and correct the mistake was worse, he gave the ball away in a dangerous position and completely took himself out immediately from defending it. The guy has lost the plot and needs removing from the limelight.

Edited 5 January by jmono84

[Blue fox LE2]

I don't think all the blame is with JJ this time. 

When I was younger 2 of the things 1 was taught was 

1) if in doubt get it out (yes JJ had plenty of time to do this) 

2) come to the ball don't let the ball come to you. (Ayew should of done this) 

 Ayew has to shoulder the blame too, he goes to the ball then tries to let the ball roll past him and turn but allows the player to nip in and intersept the ball. If he just goes and collects the ball the goal don't happen in my opinion 

[Simonb]

3 hours ago, Long Eaton Fox said:

I have sympathy for him as he's had awful, career ending injuries. Came back well from them but now not the same england cap winning player he was. We do need a new right back though.

Exactly how I feel. Usually I'd happily call a poor player out, but not JJ. Was fantastic, came back well from two career ending injuries but his time is up for us now I feel.

 

Shame, but I just don't want to see him playing for us anymore.. not just the ability has reduced, he just seems to have completely forgotten how to play altogether which is a shame. 

[StanSP]

1 hour ago, Blue fox LE2 said:

I don't think all the blame is with JJ this time. 

When I was younger 2 of the things 1 was taught was 

1) if in doubt get it out (yes JJ had plenty of time to do this) 

2) come to the ball don't let the ball come to you. (Ayew should of done this) 

 Ayew has to shoulder the blame too, he goes to the ball then tries to let the ball roll past him and turn but allows the player to nip in and intersept the ball. If he just goes and collects the ball the goal don't happen in my opinion 

I'd say it's Justin 90% and Ayew 10%.

 

Justin doesn't get himself into a tricky position or puts Ayew in a difficult position either if he takes responsibility and gets rid. 

 

His hesitation means not only does he not know what to do, but other players have no idea either. Villa pounce on him like a fly on shit, and it pays off because he's then panicked into making the only pass available when in fact there were better options. This is why Justin should shoulder most of the responsibility for that goal. Ayew less so. 

[Chelmofox]

3 hours ago, Blue fox LE2 said:

I don't think all the blame is with JJ this time. 

When I was younger 2 of the things 1 was taught was 

1) if in doubt get it out (yes JJ had plenty of time to do this) 

2) come to the ball don't let the ball come to you. (Ayew should of done this) 

 Ayew has to shoulder the blame too, he goes to the ball then tries to let the ball roll past him and turn but allows the player to nip in and intersept the ball. If he just goes and collects the ball the goal don't happen in my opinion 

JJ goes round in circles. How is any player receiving the ball meant to anticipate anything he is going to do properly, and he can see Ayew is being tracked. It's made worse by the fact the pass he makes to Ayew is slow which gives the attacker everything he needs to press aggressively. You can see Ayew indicated to go long as well. It's a complete cluster from JJ. 

Edited 5 January by Chelmofox

[Blue fox LE2]

1 hour ago, StanSP said:

I'd say it's Justin 90% and Ayew 10%.

 

Justin doesn't get himself into a tricky position or puts Ayew in a difficult position either if he takes responsibility and gets rid. 

 

His hesitation means not only does he not know what to do, but other players have no idea either. Villa pounce on him like a fly on shit, and it pays off because he's then panicked into making the only pass available when in fact there were better options. This is why Justin should shoulder most of the responsibility for that goal. Ayew less so. 

Not saying Ayew is more to blame Than JJ as if JJ gets rid instead of being hesitant and turning this way then that way goal doesn't happen that's simple to see. But JJ does make a pass (not a great 1 either) they are premier league players and they should antispate opposing players closing them down on a bad ball. I'm not sticking up for JJ as it is mostly his fault but I don't think we should criticise 1 without the other as 2 wrongs don't make a right