Viktor Kristiansen joins Bologna on loan

[Claridge]

33 minutes ago, LinekersLugs said:

he is a young man and I know for a fact he and his family have a profiles on here
 

KDH is a huge talent if he knuckles down and works hard he can really be a legend at this club 

 

I think he is an easily influenced person, if he is influenced by Enzo and the coaching staff he will be a cracking player as the season goes on 

KDH is piss poor , can’t pass wind

[sacreblueits442]

16 minutes ago, Paninistickers said:

Oh come on. Cliques I can live with but bullying?! I just can't comprehend that at this (that) level of football.

 

VK made all the right noises closed season about promotion. And a new manager in meant that any previous cliques could be wiped away. The likeliest explanation is that the manager didn't fancy VK and as such VK was keen to get out. 

 

 

...it really depends on your definition of bullying!!!

 

The repetitive, intentional hurting of one person or group by another person or group, where the relationship involves an imbalance of power. Bullying can be physical, verbal or psychological. It can happen face-to-face or online'. Anti-Bullying Alliance. Definition of bullying.

[Paninistickers]

6 minutes ago, sacreblueits442 said:

...it really depends on your definition of bullying!!!

 

The repetitive, intentional hurting of one person or group by another person or group, where the relationship involves an imbalance of power. Bullying can be physical, verbal or psychological. It can happen face-to-face or online'. Anti-Bullying Alliance. Definition of bullying.

I know what bullying is. I struggle to believe that KDH and Madders would orchestrate - even sub consciously - a campaign against VK. 

 

Maybe I'm naive. But football is a selfish business. I don't think they'd castigate a young, new, talented colleague for the benefit of a mate

[lcfc043]

I’ve noticed he follows nobody back on Instagram which is strange, Demarai Gray  used to do the same! 

[sacreblueits442]

38 minutes ago, Paninistickers said:

I know what bullying is. I struggle to believe that KDH and Madders would orchestrate - even sub consciously - a campaign against VK. 

 

Maybe I'm naive. But football is a selfish business. I don't think they'd castigate a young, new, talented colleague for the benefit of a mate

...the psychological aspect would be the part that would be salient aspect!!!

Just alienating someone is enough to extract power over that person, it doesn't have to be physical it is very much a covert action.

[Daggers]

2 hours ago, Vazman said:

Kasper would have put a stop to it, and suspect he kept that clique in check.

It puts an understandable slant on players being removed from the squad one way or another, eh.

[CosbehFox]

1 hour ago, lcfc043 said:

I’ve noticed he follows nobody back on Instagram which is strange, Demarai Gray  used to do the same! 

Completely re set after the Bologna move. Bit weird cos it means he’s taken off all his Copenhagen stuff as well. 
 

Tbf he probably wisely as a private account alongside that for a media team to do 

[Dan]

It's no surprise last seasons side didn't have any time for that. Bunch of absolute losers the lot of them. He's one I wish would've stayed to be honest, the only departure I'm genuinely a bit annoyed with.

[Dan]

13 hours ago, Chelmofox said:

I think deep down a lot of us knew a lot of this was going on, and it was an area that Rodgers had completely lost control of dressing room.  Or maybe Rodgers just didn't care, as he wanted out long ago.  When he made Maddison captain, he didn't lead the team, he just tries to do everything himself.  Even towards the end of the season when Maddison is no longer captain, he's trying to do so much himself. 

 

The best thing that happened to Maddison / Barnes / Thomas is they have been split up and have to carve out their own careers at new clubs  I hope they look at their inductions to those clubs , then think back to the arses they made of themselves last season with a bit of regret. Barnes already has the fans on his back, and his crew isn't there to protect him.

 

We needed someone with VK's attributes last reason. Incredibly sad the the selfish few decided to effectively beat that out of him. Hope he does well at Bologna.

Maddison isn't captain material. Doesn't surprise me at all that things went downhill with him as captain. This is somebody who publicly supported Rodgers after the 6-2 loss at Spurs as well. It was one big group of self-interested players and manager. Wish none of them well at all - makes me happy seeing plenty of them flunking it. Maddison will go off the boil if there's any risk that Spurs look like they might actually achieve something as well.

[HesNotGudjonsonn2]

I kind of can’t imagine a young player coming in to our club and being ostracised or bullied by any group of players. I just think an elder statesman of the squad, as in our number 9, would have done something about it. He always comes across to me as someone who would be there for new players and particularly youngsters. I could be totally wrong of course.

[sacreblueits442]

5 minutes ago, HesNotGudjonsonn2 said:

I kind of can’t imagine a young player coming in to our club and being ostracised or bullied by any group of players. I just think an elder statesman of the squad, as in our number 9, would have done something about it. He always comes across to me as someone who would be there for new players and particularly youngsters. I could be totally wrong of course.

...the only counter to that would be the person himself exuded a persona that rubbed everyone up the wrong way!!!

I am not saying that as a fact, just another possible angle to this.

[Guest Chocolate Teapot]

10 hours ago, LinekersLugs said:

he is a young man and I know for a fact he and his family have a profiles on here

He's 25 - not that young.

[Ashley]

23 hours ago, LinekersLugs said:

No it was not because he was flawed in any way,  he wanted a move, he made that clear he was shunned and treated badly last year, I think Enzo isn’t a man to try stop someone who wants out and he wanted out and that was it, Enzo didn’t warm to him. 
 

VK will go on to have a very good career he will end up back in the premier league one day worth a lot more than we will be letting him go for 

 

can you imagine being almost a teenager the you arrive in a new country the manager tells you he wants you to bring a champions league mentality to the team and when you puff your chest out the bullies in the squad absolutely destroy you and shun you, he was a kid, his performances fell apart because a small number of players set out of Haze him and cut him to size 

 

I really hope he goes on to show those individuals that he really was the real deal 

This was to do with Luke Thomas not being played wasn't it? 

 

Barnes, Maddison, KDH and others picking the problem with VK?

[Chelmofox]

1 hour ago, Chocolate Teapot said:

He's 25 - not that young.

Sure - and hopefully he's an age where he now looks at this next stage of his career differently, with a bit more maturity, and away from all that nonsense he was part of beforehand. When KDH broke into the squad, its not inconceivable that he was very impressionable.

[Whys it always me]

Woah do we actually have any evidence of bulling VK or is this a continuation of someone making something up to fit a narrative that there is 4 young lads causing all of the troubles for Leicester downfall last season?
 

VK had some good games and some poor games like the rest of the squad. 

Smith continued with VK before opting to use Thomas in the last few games. Are we saying this is because VK was being bullied? Smith came in and made his opinions of the squad and choose what he believed to be his strongest team. As fans we will have a different view on what the best team is. I’m sure we can have this debate about Enzo and his current selections. 
 

Last season has gone, only one of the players currently remain out of the “clique” let it go unless anyone has any hard evidence we are just hating on players for no reason. 
 

Not all players get on this is fairly common in professional and amateur football but VK being bullied I just don’t see it personally if it was that bad he wouldn’t have come out publicly to say he wanted to stay. 
 

I wish him well, he is far too good to not be playing every week as are some of the others players such as JJ. 

[Le Renard]

If a few people think you are a w*nker,  then is that bullying?  I don't think VK was a nerd with glasses, he'd probably quite easily fight his own corner, and Madders and Barnes would probably p*ss themselves if he had squared up to them.   I think it probably has more to do with the culture of the club, which is why he wanted out. 

I for one would lay the blame on Rodgers, it was his job to sort these problems out and create squad harmony, but we know he was more interested in himself and what payoff he could get.

 

 

 

[Fox92]

17 hours ago, LinekersLugs said:

he is a young man and I know for a fact he and his family have a profiles on here
 

KDH is a huge talent if he knuckles down and works hard he can really be a legend at this club 

 

I think he is an easily influenced person, if he is influenced by Enzo and the coaching staff he will be a cracking player as the season goes on 

"Huge talent". He's 25, not 19.

 

Needs some serious coaching because his passing is awful. Won't be long til he's not even a regular, if Enzo is here long enough over seasons then I am sure he will get in a more technical midfielder for this style of football.

 

I've said it before but Dewsbury Hall looks like he thinks he's better than what he is. He is one I'd keep an eye on if I was the manager.

Edited 11 September 2023 by Fox92

[Drink Water]

19 hours ago, LinekersLugs said:

I know for a fact he and his family have a profiles on here

[volpeazzurro]

18 hours ago, Paninistickers said:

I know what bullying is. I struggle to believe that KDH and Madders would orchestrate - even sub consciously - a campaign against VK. 

 

Maybe I'm naive. But football is a selfish business. I don't think they'd castigate a young, new, talented colleague for the benefit of a mate

I'd find it hard to believe too. I don't think Madders was big enough or strong enough to be a good bully 🤣. You'd like to think certain sensible senior players would step in also as I think we have a few good eggs like that. 

[ClaphamFox]

2 hours ago, Fox92 said:

"Huge talent". He's 25, not 19.

 

Needs some serious coaching because his passing is awful. Won't be long til he's not even a regular, if Enzo is here long enough over seasons then I am sure he will get in a more technical midfielder for this style of football.

 

I've said it before but Dewsbury Hall looks like he thinks he's better than what he is. He is one I'd keep an eye on if I was the manager.

He has more attacking involvements than any other player in the division, which probably explains why Maresca likes him so much…

 

https://twitter.com/OptaAnalyst/status/1698710766902206663?s=20

[Sly]

KDH is alright and is a massive cog in the system and how we play.

 

He isn’t as technical as a Maddison but we’ve been spoilt, as not many are. 
 

If KDH gets that consistency to his game; he’ll be a great player for us this season. 
 

On VK, again, I wish him well and let’s see how it goes. Hopefully we’ll be able to cash out and get most of our cash back we splurged on him. 

[VLC86]

4 minutes ago, Sly said:

KDH is alright and is a massive cog in the system and how we play.

 

He isn’t as technical as a Maddison but we’ve been spoilt, as not many are. 
 

If KDH gets that consistency to his game; he’ll be a great player for us this season. 
 

On VK, again, I wish him well and let’s see how it goes. Hopefully we’ll be able to cash out and get most of our cash back we splurged on him. 

Massive cog or clog? Don’t think he’s been critical so far this season. Not that he couldn’t be.

[Sly]

Just now, Costock_Fox said:

Massive cog or clog? Don’t think he’s been critical so far this season. Not that he couldn’t be.

We don’t win the game against Coventry without him 

[VLC86]

5 minutes ago, Sly said:

We don’t win the game against Coventry without him 

Yep, had a good 15 minutes. He’s been pretty wasteful since.

[Fox92]

5 hours ago, ClaphamFox said:

He has more attacking involvements than any other player in the division, which probably explains why Maresca likes him so much…

 

https://twitter.com/OptaAnalyst/status/1698710766902206663?s=20

I would imagine so, he's playing central midfield in a team at the top of the division. All our midfielders are included in that stat. 

 

His passing and first touch is still horrible to see 9 times out of 10.