LCFC 0 - 1 Hull Post Match Thread

[An Away Move]

It was nothing we did wrong today. We should just blame my girlfriend who sent me a photo of a dead fox just before I set off for the match, saying, ‘I hope it’s not a bad omen’ 🙄😂

[ealingfox]

Not hard to get people going on here is it again the reaction to mild criticism of the club is telling 

[ARM1968]

Knew this was coming to be honest. Isn’t as bad as it appears. We move on. 

[Livid]

I don’t think the performance was any worse than any of the other home games this season. We just didn’t have the luck today. 
 

There’s room for some big improvements all over the pitch but no panic. 

[fox_favourite]

1 minute ago, ealingfox said:

Not hard to get people going on here is it again the reaction to mild criticism of the club is telling 

Sack Enzo, sack Rudkin, sack the board, sack everyone and everything. It's not working!!!!!!

 

Or is that too mild?

[Tom12345]

4 minutes ago, Bilo said:

I don't wish to be rude, but are you on crack?

 

In those 9 years, we won the Premier League, FA Cup and played in Europe multiple times with some of the best football in the club's history.

 

I absolutely guarantee you that Notts Forest will not be able to say half of that in nine years' time. They'll most likely be long back down by then.

I think he meant that despite the massive advantage we had, which as you say we had after building a club widely respected with PL win, FA Cup, two 5th place finishes, etc, we threw that all away in the space of 18 months with us playing in the Championship while Forest won in the PL.

[Bobby Hundreds]

3 mins added time. Kin

[adam]

Bloody boring int it.

So slow.

It's OK playing like that and winning but once we start dropping points it's gonna wear pretty thin.

 

[ealingfox]

2 minutes ago, fox_favourite said:

Sack Enzo, sack Rudkin, sack the board, sack everyone and everything. It's not working!!!!!!

 

Or is that too mild?

 

Don't think Enzo deserves the sack but would be fine with the rest.

[Ely fox]

We Lost They Won. It’s the championship. It’s gonna be a grind. 

[Bourbon Fox]

5 minutes ago, Big Blue Maff said:

What pisses me off is how we move the ball from goalkeeper to a defender, we will come a cropper. 
 

It's the long ball down the middle to feet, from the keeper to the CB with his back to the striker. That one gives me chills. Asking to be mugged.

[Number 6]

Thought Ricardo had an uncharacteristically poor day, which is poison to this system. Still didn't deserve to lose, but we're hardly piling on the xG in any game so far. Hoping we have a settled squad now so can start to really get clicking.

 

Potentially by the time we travel to Saints we could be looking at:

 

Hermansen

Ricardo Faes Coady Doyle

Winks 

Casadei KDH

Fatawu Nacho Mavididi

 

Don't mind the shout of McAtee for KDH too. Interested to see how we do against a team who will come at us more.

[Bilo]

Just now, Tom12345 said:

I think he meant that despite the massive advantage we had, which as you say we had after building a club widely respected with PL win, FA Cup, two 5th place finishes, etc, we threw that all away in the space of 18 months with us playing in the Championship while Forest won in the PL.

But the idea that we didn't show half the ambition that Forest have is laughable. Vichai was widely mocked when he said he wanted us in the top five in three years. We did it in two.

 

Forest's ambition is midtable with the odd cup run and are building a team that will, at best, achieve that. No chance of them emulating what we've done since winning the league, let alone actually doing it.

[l444ry]

Hull were bang ordinary but well organised defensively. There will be plenty of other sides doing the same thing by man marking Winks and Ricardo , disrupt the build up and wait  for us to make an error. It's how Enzo and the team react to this that will be interesting. Can't remember their keeper even getting his knees dirty so anyone dressing this result up other than a piss poor performance, attacking wise, is kidding themselves.  

[phoneticerror]

Ref was a w@nker

[FoxyJim1987]

Wow that was as annoying a game as I can ever remember attending. And I was here through the Gary Megson era.

 

3 mins at the end was the most inept downright corrupt thing I've seen in a long while. I was genuinely amazed, I was thinking we would have around 8 minutes. 

 

It's ok folks, it's just a lesson. Score a spawny deflected goal, pull all 11 back, Tim waste the whole second half and none of it will be added on. Welcome to the shithouse championship. Oh and most of their fans are fooking c words

[ealingfox]

6 minutes ago, Bilo said:

But the idea that we didn't show half the ambition that Forest have is laughable. Vichai was widely mocked when he said he wanted us in the top five in three years. We did it in two.

 

Forest's ambition is midtable with the odd cup run and are building a team that will, at best, achieve that. No chance of them emulating what we've done since winning the league, let alone actually doing it.

 

Ambition and achievement aren't the same thing though.

[Dahnsouff]

When Abdul cut in and hit it with his left, it could have taken a deflection like Delaps did and gone in, fine margins.

 

Not sure we deserved to lose, but pretty sure we didn’t deserve to win

[FoxyJim1987]

7 minutes ago, Number 6 said:

Thought Ricardo had an uncharacteristically poor day, which is poison to this system. Still didn't deserve to lose, but we're hardly piling on the xG in any game so far. Hoping we have a settled squad now so can start to really get clicking.

 

Potentially by the time we travel to Saints we could be looking at:

 

Hermansen

Ricardo Faes Coady Doyle

Winks 

Casadei KDH

Fatawu Nacho Mavididi

 

Don't mind the shout of McAtee for KDH too. Interested to see how we do against a team who will come at us more.

KDH has to improve and quickly, Mavididi has no end product. I'd like to see Fatawu on the left after his cameo and McAteer on the right who was taken off too early today. Would love to see Justin get a game too surely he's due.

[ian__marshall]

Left it too late to exert our authority on the game today. They were there for the taking but we simply weren't clinical enough in the final third. 

 

In fairness to Hull I was impressed with the way they set up. Delap and Twine pushed out very wide which meant both Faes and Doyle had to decide between going out to cover the man leaving Vestergaard isolated against Connolly, or stay in shape but afford them all the space in the world to cut in and attack at pace. It worked a treat and I thought both Doyle and Faes looked poor today. Doyle in particular got turned inside out on several occasions one of which led to the goal. I suspect that Hull benefitted today by having both their wide attackers on loan from teams who have had our style of play drilled into them so will know the weaknesses of the system. 

 

I thought in the first half we were too static in the final third and the lack of movement prevented us creating any good openings. 

 

I don't know what's happened to KDH but since that brace in the first game he seems to have become extremely greedy in possession and too quick to get off the shot rather than get his head up and assess his options. 

 

On a positive note, I thought Fatawu looked very exciting. Had the beating of their full back from the moment he entered the pitch. Personally can't wait to watch him play, think he's going to be a joy to watch. 

 

Whilst not ideal I think today's result will be beneficial longer term in keeping everyone grounded. A bit of complacency seems to have crept into our performances of late so a reality check might be useful in focusing minds. 

 

Edited 2 September 2023 by ian__marshall

[Number 6]

2 minutes ago, FoxyJim1987 said:

KDH has to improve and quickly, Mavididi has no end product. I'd like to see Fatawu on the left after his cameo and McAteer on the right who was taken off too early today. Would love to see Justin get a game too surely he's due.

I think we've finally got good wide options now. I don't have a major preference on the left, but really would like to see Fatawu start.

 

Justin maybe got a claim for playing the Doyle role after today's performance.

[Ely fox]

There are still plastics that won’t go until we are sitting in the play offs 

[ealingfox]

1 minute ago, Ely fox said:

There are still plastics that won’t go until we are sitting in the play offs 

 

We are sitting in the play offs.

[Gamble92]

I remember a 0-1 home defeat in League One to Millwall and it kind of acted as a wake up call. Similar thing needs to happen now. 

 

What worries me is how obvious it was this was coming and we haven't started to find that so-called next gear. 

 

[Ian Nacho]

I know it’s not the main reason why we lost but seriously where did they get 3 minutes from? After all the song and dance before the season that they were going to do added time more precisely.