Bristol City (H) - Post-Match Thread

[fox_favourite]

1 minute ago, lcfcsnow said:

We’re not going to batter anyone as since pre season we seem to willingly turn down attacking opportunities and it’s still happening. I’ve seen us go back to defence from a corner, free kicks in the attacking third and when a pass is on to someone in acres down the wing many times.

 

We don’t have the right players in attacking areas to score goals. Neither Vardy or Iheanacho are suited to the way we’re playing, Wilf and KDH as good as they’ve been in certain areas they are not scoring us goals, both have only scored in one league game this season.

Yet we're still winning, which shows impressive coaching putting players/teaching players new positions and tactics 

[Jimbo]

5 minutes ago, lcfcsnow said:

We’re not going to batter anyone as since pre season we seem to willingly turn down attacking opportunities and it’s still happening. I’ve seen us go back to defence from a corner, free kicks in the attacking third and when a pass is on to someone in acres down the wing many times.

 

We also don’t have the right players in attacking areas to score goals. Neither Vardy or Iheanacho are suited to the way we’re playing, Wilf and KDH as good as they’ve been in certain areas they are not scoring us goals, both have only scored in one league game this season.

But we have the 4th/5th most goals scored? And we're only down to that because of some big scorers yesterday in the Ipswich and Plymouth games. 

 

More importantly we have the best defence in league which gives us the best goal difference.

 

This systems means the goals come from everywhere, we don't need to see 1 player banging in 20+ a season, we could have probably 3 or 4 approaching 15 goals by the end of the season, when you consider how much the attacking options may change over the course of the season, that's not bad. 

 

If I'm making another Man City comparison, pre Haaland Man City didn't really have a player that provides "goals" they came from everywhere. Haaland has just made them more dangerous. 

 

I'm happy to see McAteer, Mavididi etc pitching in with the goals scored column and I'd much rather have 3 players in 10 goals for the season than 1 with 25. 

[Bert]

10 hours ago, Spiritwalker said:

Didn’t notice him which is usually a good sign.

Exactly mate. 

[Livid]

 

Played really well, you can see it coming together but…..

 

Not entirely comfortable having that much possession and control in a game then having to worry when the opposition get a late free kick on the edge of our box. 
 

[majaco]

6 minutes ago, Livid said:

 

Played really well, you can see it coming together but…..

 

Not entirely comfortable having that much possession and control in a game then having to worry when the opposition get a late free kick on the edge of our box. 
 

Reflecting on yesterday, noone had a bad game.   We are playing as a team. Vardy doesn't see much of the ball; he is occupying defenders.   Players know their roles.  It's great to see the wingers so wide.

 

 

[Pliskin]

1 hour ago, lcfcsnow said:

We’re not going to batter anyone as since pre season we seem to willingly turn down attacking opportunities and it’s still happening. I’ve seen us go back to defence from a corner, free kicks in the attacking third and when a pass is on to someone in acres down the wing many times.

 

We also don’t have the right players in attacking areas to score goals. Neither Vardy or Iheanacho are suited to the way we’re playing, Wilf and KDH as good as they’ve been in certain areas they are not scoring us goals, both have only scored in one league game this season.

I don’t necessarily agree with this.

 

We put four past Southampton, so how is that not scoring goals?

 

Enzo has spoken about dominating the game, he wants complete control of the game, and yesterday, for me was the best performance of the season…. Bristol couldn’t get near us, even if they had a ten foot pole they still wouldn’t have tickled us. 
 

In the modern game, if you can win a game 1-0 then so be it…. We’ve got a lot of games coming up, and Enzo probably did say to the guys if we get one then we’ve won this game. If one goal will win you a match then there’s little point forcing the issue to get more.

 

We will batter the weaker teams in this league when we’re at full tilt, and we will take points of the better teams. 
 

To be honest I’d take a game like yesterday over a 4-3 thriller. Yesterday was the first time this season I thought we looked untouchable. 

Edited 24 September 2023 by Pliskin

[Chelmofox]

15 hours ago, NaijaFox said:

We made them look awful.

That first 15 minutes of the 2H is the best I’ve seen us play in a while - and about the best you’ll see at this level all season.

I agree we made them look poor. But you expect the opposition to do something in that game. Even Huddersfield (albeit at theirs) went man to man with us, but Bristol literally sat there and took it for 90 minutes.

 

I watched a few videos beforehand where the warnings were they had pacy and pressing attackers, to the point where i felt we should be playing JJ as they would look to exploit Doyle. Absolutely nothing! I think it was @StriderHiryu who said they turned up to get 0-0. But even after going 1-0 down it felt their tactic was to stay at 1-0. I believe their free kick at the end was their only shot on target? Simply no where near good enough from them if they have hopes of making the playoffs.

[Chelmofox]

1 hour ago, lcfcsnow said:

We’re not going to batter anyone as since pre season we seem to willingly turn down attacking opportunities and it’s still happening. I’ve seen us go back to defence from a corner, free kicks in the attacking third and when a pass is on to someone in acres down the wing many times.

 

We also don’t have the right players in attacking areas to score goals. Neither Vardy or Iheanacho are suited to the way we’re playing, Wilf and KDH as good as they’ve been in certain areas they are not scoring us goals, both have only scored in one league game this season.

Yesterday was an absolute battering, just not in scoreline. They had 1 shot on target and i think only 2 shots off - that tells you everything you need to know . They had no friggin corners at all ffs. Not one moment for a commentator to say 'well this was always Leicester's issue......'.  Prior to this i consider the 4-1 against Southampton a battering too. 

 

Vardy has adapted very well to how we are playing, but yesterday was just the wrong side of a few crosses. I posted elsewhere, Bristol played appallingly and literally just sat back to try and soak up everything. They were a few excellent blocks and a bit of luck away from losing 2 or 3-0.  A lot of the creativity is coming from the wings. Fatuwu looks like he was born to play our system and Mavadidi is generating lots of chances as well.   But to be fair, if we have to win another 35 games 1-0 like this to get promoted then so be it.

[coolhandfox]

1 hour ago, lcfcsnow said:

We’re not going to batter anyone as since pre season we seem to willingly turn down attacking opportunities and it’s still happening. I’ve seen us go back to defence from a corner, free kicks in the attacking third and when a pass is on to someone in acres down the wing many times.

 

We also don’t have the right players in attacking areas to score goals. Neither Vardy or Iheanacho are suited to the way we’re playing, Wilf and KDH as good as they’ve been in certain areas they are not scoring us goals, both have only scored in one league game this season.

Didn't we just batter Southampton? 

 

We are the 5th highest scorers division. Second highest xg in the league.

3rd high in terms shots.

 

We just need to he a little more clinical.

[Claudio Fannieri]

I thought it was arguably our best team performance of the season with every player 7 or above. 
 

It was as convincing a 1-0 win as you could hope for. It is going to be like yesterday most home games with teams setting up to avoid a completely demoralising thumping, it is purely damage limitation, much in the same way prem teams go to Man City with a view to not winning the game but trying to keep the score down to something acceptable. 
 

Their keeper made a couple of very good saves, they put bodies on the line in defensive areas and we made some poor decisions with final ball/end product which restricted us to just the one, on another day it could have been 4 or 5.

 

We were horrible to play against yesterday, controlled and dominate in possession and when out of possession we pressed the life out of them and won the ball back so quickly, for most of the game it was like a defence vs attack training drill, Bristol looked dead on their feet by the end. 
 

If we can get an early goal against these teams then I can see us battering a few but most likely it will be 1 or 2 nil wins at home, where we completely boss the game but have to break down a 11 man wall. 

[Marshall Cockney Fox]

2 hours ago, lcfcsnow said:

We’re not going to batter anyone as since pre season we seem to willingly turn down attacking opportunities and it’s still happening. I’ve seen us go back to defence from a corner, free kicks in the attacking third and when a pass is on to someone in acres down the wing many times.

 

We also don’t have the right players in attacking areas to score goals. Neither Vardy or Iheanacho are suited to the way we’re playing, Wilf and KDH as good as they’ve been in certain areas they are not scoring us goals, both have only scored in one league game this season.

I don't think some of those poor decisions are even conscious choices i.e. tactics. They are just poor instincts. Mavididi took an extra touch twice yesterday when staring at a clear cut goal chance. Resulting in the block getting in. Just hit the fecker early fellas. Sometimes less really is more!

[shen]

Just rewatched the highlights - is a penalty ever struck without players encroaching? Maybe they should make penalties like in ice hockey. If attacker scores the penalty it's a kickoff, if it's a miss make it a goal kick. None of this stupid malarkey with encroachments etc.

[Chelmofox]

4 minutes ago, Marshall Cockney Fox said:

I don't think some of those poor decisions are even conscious choices i.e. tactics. They are just poor instincts. Mavididi took an extra touch twice yesterday when staring at a clear cut goal chance. Resulting in the block getting in. Just hit the fecker early fellas. Sometimes less really is more!

Just watched the extended highlights. Mavadidi didn't really do much wrong. He clearly was trying to be less selfish (played square to KDH when there was a tough shot on) but some of these chances didn't quite come to him cleanly. You can't always just wallop it. 

[Mickyblueeyes]

12 hours ago, Manini said:

I imagine there’s been plenty of players who have come down who fans reckon are too good for this league - but watching Winks at this level is genuinely mind boggling. He gets the ball and he makes it seem like he’s got time to roll two fags, sort his Mrs out, put the lottery on and then make the right pass every single time. He is so far ahead of everybody else at this level, I can’t believe he’s dropped down and I’ll fully admit I never appreciated what he had in his locker. 

All ifs and buts. However, if we had a player of his quality in the number 8 role last year, we’d have more. 

[Spudulike]

An interesting match report as seen from the opposition's perspective....

 

https://www.otib.co.uk/index.php?/topic/222111-match-report-outfoxed-but-not-outfought/

 

It must seem loud in that away corner when you're in it because I could barely hear BC fans from the opposite side. 

[Chelmofox]

4 minutes ago, Spudulike said:

An interesting match report as seen from the opposition's perspective....

 

https://www.otib.co.uk/index.php?/topic/222111-match-report-outfoxed-but-not-outfought/

 

It must seem loud in that away corner when you're in it because I could barely hear BC fans from the opposite side. 

I think i heard them 2 or 3 times in the game. Most noticeably as Vardy stepped up to the penalty. Idiots. Imagine rating some of your players 7/8 and 9 after that!

[Pliskin]

8 minutes ago, Spudulike said:

An interesting match report as seen from the opposition's perspective....

 

https://www.otib.co.uk/index.php?/topic/222111-match-report-outfoxed-but-not-outfought/

 

It must seem loud in that away corner when you're in it because I could barely hear BC fans from the opposite side. 

I completely forgot they were there….

 

Odd analysis of the game….. had we been a bit more switched on in the final third we would have comfortably turned them over. I thought they were shite. 

[Spudulike]

3 minutes ago, Chelmofox said:

I think i heard them 2 or 3 times in the game. Most noticeably as Vardy stepped up to the penalty. Idiots. Imagine rating some of your players 7/8 and 9 after that!

They should be credited with the assist for the penalty! 

 

2 minutes ago, Pliskin said:

I completely forgot they were there….

 

Odd analysis of the game….. had we been a bit more switched on in the final third we would have comfortably turned them over. I thought they were shite. 

Worst team we have played at home this season, certainly. Their attempts at passing out from the back were comical. 

[justfoxes]

9 minutes ago, Chelmofox said:

I think i heard them 2 or 3 times in the game. Most noticeably as Vardy stepped up to the penalty. Idiots. Imagine rating some of your players 7/8 and 9 after that!

I only heard them when 4 spotty drunk Brizzle teenagers were trying to be hard to a couple  older Leicester fans trying to get them to bite by saying “ How do you think your lot were better than us we were all over you etc etc etc!!” Then another three thumbed Brizzle fan let off a flare FairPlay to this woman who told them to Fuch off back to Brizzle & don’t come back !!😂😂😂

[Jimbo]

1 hour ago, Chelmofox said:

I agree we made them look poor. But you expect the opposition to do something in that game. Even Huddersfield (albeit at theirs) went man to man with us, but Bristol literally sat there and took it for 90 minutes.

 

I watched a few videos beforehand where the warnings were they had pacy and pressing attackers, to the point where i felt we should be playing JJ as they would look to exploit Doyle. Absolutely nothing! I think it was @StriderHiryu who said they turned up to get 0-0. But even after going 1-0 down it felt their tactic was to stay at 1-0. I believe their free kick at the end was their only shot on target? Simply no where near good enough from them if they have hopes of making the playoffs.

Nigel Pearson pretty much told us how the game was going to go in his press conference. He alluded to the fact that away from home against us you set up not to lose, you know you're not going to dominate possession, and you try to look to hit on the counter. That's what they tried to do, be organised and look to frustrate us. We still made them look pretty bad. As others have said, yesterday was the 1st time, at home, I felt we controlled the game from start to finish and anything other than a win would have been very, very harsh. It felt like it was only a matter of time before we scored, and while we still don't look extremely dangerous in the final 3rd, we looked more dangerous than we have done.

 

I expect a different performance from Bristol City when we play them at their place, given what Pearson said in that press conference, but they're really not a bad side, we just made them look poor.

 

I've said previously I expect a lot of teams to play to our new found reputation as a possession dominant side, and set up as such. 

[FosseSpark]

2 hours ago, Jimbo said:

But we have the 4th/5th most goals scored? And we're only down to that because of some big scorers yesterday in the Ipswich and Plymouth games. 

 

More importantly we have the best defence in league which gives us the best goal difference.

 

This systems means the goals come from everywhere, we don't need to see 1 player banging in 20+ a season, we could have probably 3 or 4 approaching 15 goals by the end of the season, when you consider how much the attacking options may change over the course of the season, that's not bad. 

 

If I'm making another Man City comparison, pre Haaland Man City didn't really have a player that provides "goals" they came from everywhere. Haaland has just made them more dangerous. 

 

I'm happy to see McAteer, Mavididi etc pitching in with the goals scored column and I'd much rather have 3 players in 10 goals for the season than 1 with 25. 

Aguero might have something to say about that. Always got 25. 6 out of his ten seasons he got over 20 league goals and the other 4 he missed games through injury.

Edited 24 September 2023 by FosseSpark

[Drink Water]

Summary:

 

They played us like how we played Newcastle at the end of last season 

[Pliskin]

35 minutes ago, Spudulike said:

They should be credited with the assist for the penalty! 

 

Worst team we have played at home this season, certainly. Their attempts at passing out from the back were comical. 

I agree, comfortably the worst we’ve seen. They just had nothing at all, in any department. 

[Chelmofox]

11 minutes ago, Drink Water said:

Summary:

 

They played us like how we played Newcastle at the end of last season 

Without the last 10 minutes when we were all over Newcastle (i think we had them on the ropes with 70% + possession) . We tried the smash and grab by actually trying the 'grab' part. We should have done it.

 

Could you imagine having Mads in that game? A keeper who was actually able to kick the ball to a player. If i recall, with 1 minute left Iversen just booted it out of play and Deano went mental.

[Jimbo]

23 minutes ago, FosseSpark said:

Aguero might have something to say about that. Always got 25. 6 out of his ten seasons he got over 20 league goals and the other 4 he missed games through injury.

Not in their current set up he didn't. They went an entire season without 1 striker on their books. That's what I was likening it to