Also In The News - part 3

[brucey]

1 hour ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

22% for junior doctors is a multi year deal, and historically they've gone on average to being vastly underpaid vs. where they were a number of years ago, although I thought 15-18% would have been enough.

 

All other public services will end up with 3-7% payrises IMO, depending on previous year deals.

The new offer only gets junior doctor real terms pay back to 2020 levels, which is still 20% below 2008 levels.

 

The new offer is also only 1% above what the Tories were offering. I suspect the deal will be accepted via a slim majority, but it could well still be rejected. 

[worth_the_wait]

6 minutes ago, CosbehFox said:

Not far off deleting X tonight. Perfect example of leaving it unmoderated to then harvest an acceptance of racism, untruths and conspiracies. 
 

Utter trash 

Twitter was sh*t from day one.   Not sure why any sensible person, would ever have had anything to do with it ...

[Lionator]

Some people on the far right are so far gone that even when evidence is presented on the contrary, they just say it’s a cover up and we’re being lied to Le Tiissier style. 

[Tuna]

11 minutes ago, worth_the_wait said:

Twitter was sh*t from day one.   Not sure why any sensible person, would ever have had anything to do with it ...

Rubbish

[Lionator]

32 minutes ago, Tommy G said:

The country is at tipping point and at the point of spill over IMO, the growth of the reform party is just the start - some of my family are legal immigrants, and I have many friends from all walks of life races and backgrounds  - I’m lost as to the answer to the problem that is mass illegal immigration, this needs to be labours top priority over the coming 12 months. It won’t matter the identity of who did this heinous thing today - people will draw their own conclusions. Smashing the gangs is just not the answer and weak, the government needs to be stronger than that 

What do you suggest? Illegal immigrants get deported if they get their asylum claims rejected. We also need immigration to keep the economy afloat because British people don’t do jobs that pay poorly en masse. Unless I’m mistaken I don’t believe there’s ever been a case of somebody arriving on a boat engaging in a serious act of violence/terrorism? Like people keep saying “something needs to be done” yet aside from the people that happily pronounce what they’d like to see happen (which would break the Geneva convention), nobody ever actually has a realistic solution that wouldn’t do more harm to the country than good. 
 

This is not a dig, I kinda get why people see immigrants as a threat because it’s classic herd mentality but nobody ever offers actual solutions apart from hatred. 

Edited 29 July 2024 by Lionator

[bovril]

Twitter was and often still is very good. There are thousands upon thousands of really interesting accounts sharing fantastic stuff. 

 

Unfortunately it's getting harder to ignore the sociopaths and bots.

[StanSP]

13 minutes ago, Lionator said:

Some people on the far right are so far gone that even when evidence is presented on the contrary, they just say it’s a cover up and we’re being lied to Le Tiissier style. 

Quite... 

 

 

 

[bovril]

4 minutes ago, Lionator said:

What do you suggest? Illegal immigrants get deported if they get their asylum claims rejected. We also need immigration to keep the economy afloat because British people don’t do jobs that pay poorly en masse. Unless I’m mistaken I don’t believe there’s ever been a case of somebody arriving on a boat engaging in a serious act of violence/terrorism? Like people keep saying “something needs to be done” yet aside from the people that happily pronounce what they’d like to see happen (which would break the Geneva convention), nobody ever actually has a realistic solution that wouldn’t do more harm to the country than good. 
 

This is not a dig, I kinda get why people see immigrants as a threat because it’s classic herd mentality but nobody ever offers actual solutions apart from hatred. 

This is not a comment on Southport as obviously we don't know the details yet but I find it very hard to believe we need immigration on the scale of the last 2/3 years to keep the economy afloat. If we do, we are ****ed beyond belief.

 

As for solutions, there's a big trade block just off the coast of Kent where apparently highly skilled and educated people can move about freely...

[MPH]

7 minutes ago, bovril said:

Twitter was and often still is very good. There are thousands upon thousands of really interesting accounts sharing fantastic stuff. 

 

Unfortunately it's getting harder to ignore the sociopaths and bots.

 

I have always been a big believer in freedom of speech and I feet twitter allows that more.
 

 

[Trav Le Bleu]

Some people will blame immigrants for everything.

 

No blue-blooded British could ever do evil.

[Lionator]

1 minute ago, bovril said:

This is not a comment on Southport as obviously we don't know the details yet but I find it very hard to believe we need immigration on the scale of the last 2/3 years to keep the economy afloat. If we do, we are ****ed beyond belief.

 

As for solutions, there's a big trade block just off the coast of Kent where apparently highly skilled and educated people can move about freely...

Unfortunately the care sector is absolutely wrecked. Post Brexit, the European people that came to work in the sector obviously didn’t come anymore that meant we had to recruit from India, Zimbabwe, Kenya, Iraq, Sri Lanka, Syria etc etc. because those people are willing to do horrible jobs at the minimum wage. I can imagine it’s a very similar scenario in other sectors that I don’t have personal knowledge of 

[bovril]

1 minute ago, Lionator said:

Unfortunately the care sector is absolutely wrecked. Post Brexit, the European people that came to work in the sector obviously didn’t come anymore that meant we had to recruit from India, Zimbabwe, Kenya, Iraq, Sri Lanka, Syria etc etc. because those people are willing to do horrible jobs at the minimum wage. I can imagine it’s a very similar scenario in other sectors that I don’t have personal knowledge of 

Yeah I'm sure it is. Similar to some extent in education.

 

It's an interesting debate but not the best time to have it tonight

[Electric Yetis]

44 minutes ago, CosbehFox said:

Not far off deleting X tonight. Perfect example of leaving it unmoderated to then harvest an acceptance of racism, untruths and conspiracies. 
 

Utter trash 

Deleted it the day that **** took over. Haven't missed it.

[chuck'em]

22 minutes ago, StanSP said:

Quite... 

 

 

 

That is sickening. A 'holiday romance' between a 12 year old girl and a grown man ffs

[whoareyaaa]

3 hours ago, foxy boxing said:

Unfortunately we'll most likely see more and more of these incidents. The question is what are the politicians and those in authority going to do about it! Condolences and hollow words just won't be enough we need to see a proper response to violent crime and unprovoked pycho attacks. The police have lost the streets of this country and are courts are pathetic and are prisons are beyond capacity. Enough is enough. I am sick of seeing instances like this on a near regular basis.

Stop letting in illegal immigrants at every possible cost

[The Horse's Mouth]

27 minutes ago, Lionator said:

Unfortunately the care sector is absolutely wrecked. Post Brexit, the European people that came to work in the sector obviously didn’t come anymore that meant we had to recruit from India, Zimbabwe, Kenya, Iraq, Sri Lanka, Syria etc etc. because those people are willing to do horrible jobs at the minimum wage. I can imagine it’s a very similar scenario in other sectors that I don’t have personal knowledge of 

You’re talking a few thousands in a pool of net migration over a period being a 5 mill increase. Vast majority of them come over to take advantage of the wellfare state 

[Wymsey]

6 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

Stop letting in illegal immigrants at every possible cost

Even those who are genuinely innocent people and are just seeking a better life away from their war-torn country?

[whoareyaaa]

5 minutes ago, Wymsey said:

Even those who are genuinely innocent people and are just seeking a better life away from their war-torn country?

Yes

[RowlattsFox]

It takes the sickest of sick ***** to stab a child. With shootings,  there is almost a detachment from the victims (not trying to reduce the sickness of shootings btw) but to stab someone takes the physical effort, and to do that to a child I can't comprehend. I can't even imagine what a motive would be 

[Paninistickers]

1 hour ago, whoareyaaa said:

Stop letting in illegal immigrants at every possible cost

Illegal immigration isn't even close to the problem. It's legal immigration that's fcking us over. 

 

The elderly have swapped European immigration - under freedom of movement - for some kind of  ghastly student/nurse visa system that brings in all sorts from Timbuktu that haven't a scintilla of interest in the UK. 

 

[Jattdogg]

2 hours ago, CosbehFox said:

Not far off deleting X tonight. Perfect example of leaving it unmoderated to then harvest an acceptance of racism, untruths and conspiracies. 
 

Utter trash 

Mate, for a guy who works in IT, I have 0 social media presence. I have never had twitter, instagram, tiktok etc. The most I do is this site and pornhub.com (incognito wanking mode).

 

Social media is a waste of time. The bad far outweighs the good for me. 

 

Back to pornhub I go.....

[MPH]

1 hour ago, Wymsey said:

Even those who are genuinely innocent people and are just seeking a better life away from their war-torn country?

 

yes.

 

BUT, expand and streamline  and improve the asylum process, making it faster and efficient  so you make it  an appealing alternative to coming Into the country  illegally,  so you don’t have to live your life in fear of deportation  and so you don’t have to live below the level of mainstream society  thus reducing your risk of being exploited and being pulled into slave Labour and working for a pittance far below the minimum wage.

Edited 29 July 2024 by MPH

[Jon the Hat]

You can't tell me someone who would do this is anything other than mentally ill.  This is where we need to spend money. 

[The Horse's Mouth]

This geezer doesn’t miss 

[Jon the Hat]

According to the CPS website, "making indecent images can have a wide definition in the law and can include opening an email attachment containing such an image, downloading one from a website, or receiving one via social media, even if unsolicited and even if part of a group.”