st albans fox Posted 10 July 2024 Posted 10 July 2024 3 minutes ago, MPH said: Harris is an interesting one… she’s actually not very popular within the Democratic Party but I imagine would be with the voters… but imagine making the effort to go out and vote for Biden as your candidate only to have someone else take his place.. would that weaken your desire to go and vote for that person? I don’t think it makes any difference to the democrats but the swing voters that they need to get hold of may not go for her. FWIW, a lot of those target votes are women so you’d think a big chunk would be supportive (given who she’d be up against)
Lionator Posted 10 July 2024 Posted 10 July 2024 13 minutes ago, st albans fox said: Surely that’s got to reflect on Adam if he’s actually charged ??? He’ll just say it’s evidence of a pro-Israeli/genocide conspiracy and people will lap it up. By all accounts he wasn’t plotting attacks or the like, just encouraging stuff which could/should be perceived as extremist.
st albans fox Posted 10 July 2024 Posted 10 July 2024 4 minutes ago, Lionator said: He’ll just say it’s evidence of a pro-Israeli/genocide conspiracy and people will lap it up. By all accounts he wasn’t plotting attacks or the like, just encouraging stuff which could/should be perceived as extremist. it depends on his relationship with freeman. if it’s close then I reckon he will struggle to be heard in Westminster - the speaker will blank him
Torquay Gunner Posted 10 July 2024 Posted 10 July 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, MPH said: Harris is an interesting one… she’s actually not very popular within the Democratic Party but I imagine would be with the voters… but imagine making the effort to go out and vote for Biden as your candidate only to have someone else take his place.. would that weaken your desire to go and vote for that person? Not if your major objective is to keep Trump out of the White House, which I would imagine would be a strong motivator for most democrats or indeed many independents(hopefully). Edited 10 July 2024 by Torquay Gunner
Super_horns Posted 10 July 2024 Posted 10 July 2024 Poor guy. “As we've just reported, the three women killed in a crossbow attack in Bushey, near Watford, are Carol Hunt, the wife of the BBC commentator John Hunt, and two of their daughters.“ To lose 3 members of your family in such circumstances. Horrible. 7
Zear0 Posted 10 July 2024 Posted 10 July 2024 13 minutes ago, Super_horns said: Poor guy. “As we've just reported, the three women killed in a crossbow attack in Bushey, near Watford, are Carol Hunt, the wife of the BBC commentator John Hunt, and two of their daughters.“ To lose 3 members of your family in such circumstances. Horrible. So grim, hope they catch him soon.
ClaphamFox Posted 10 July 2024 Posted 10 July 2024 21 minutes ago, Zear0 said: So grim, hope they catch him soon. Gut-wrenching story. A rejected ex-boyfriend of one of the daughters...?
bovril Posted 10 July 2024 Posted 10 July 2024 48 minutes ago, Super_horns said: Poor guy. “As we've just reported, the three women killed in a crossbow attack in Bushey, near Watford, are Carol Hunt, the wife of the BBC commentator John Hunt, and two of their daughters.“ To lose 3 members of your family in such circumstances. Horrible. Oh Jesus. Absolutely horrific.
ramboacdc Posted 10 July 2024 Posted 10 July 2024 15 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said: Gut-wrenching story. A rejected ex-boyfriend of one of the daughters...? The ages line up, but it would all be conjecture until this see's a trial or something like that. You have to feel for John and his other daughter. Apparently John was the one who got home around 7pm and raised the alarm on it all.
Tommy G Posted 10 July 2024 Posted 10 July 2024 Just now, ramboacdc said: The ages line up, but it would all be conjecture until this see's a trial or something like that. You have to feel for John and his other daughter. Apparently John was the one who got home around 7pm and raised the alarm on it all. I've seen a pic of him onine with his arm round one of the daughters so looks that way.... 1
Jattdogg Posted 10 July 2024 Posted 10 July 2024 Fook sakes with a crossbow how horrible. I mean any manner of murder is but yikes. Such a senseless loss of life. My heart goes out to the guy and his family.
Tommy G Posted 10 July 2024 Posted 10 July 2024 3 minutes ago, Jattdogg said: Fook sakes with a crossbow how horrible. I mean any manner of murder is but yikes. Such a senseless loss of life. My heart goes out to the guy and his family. Can't comprehend someone owning a cross bow number 1, let alone using it to kill 3 people - you have to reload the thing, that means the final moments of all 3 victims would of been horiffic 3
Wymsey Posted 10 July 2024 Posted 10 July 2024 (edited) Hope he just doesn't kill himself, do the right thing in handing himself in and face real justice from this. Edited 10 July 2024 by Wymsey
st albans fox Posted 10 July 2024 Posted 10 July 2024 1 hour ago, ramboacdc said: The ages line up, but it would all be conjecture until this see's a trial or something like that. You have to feel for John and his other daughter. Apparently John was the one who got home around 7pm and raised the alarm on it all. He is an ex boyfriend of one of the daughters. Whether that means an actual boyfriend or spurned will no doubt come out over time. people are talking down here - friends of friends etc etc Just horrific 1
st albans fox Posted 10 July 2024 Posted 10 July 2024 He’s been found by police not confirmed if he’s alive or dead
Wymsey Posted 10 July 2024 Posted 10 July 2024 The council have got a point here, but it just feels like punishment for the locals who are only trying to help their communities. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cldyny34kx4o
kenny Posted 10 July 2024 Posted 10 July 2024 2 minutes ago, Wymsey said: The council have got a point here, but it just feels like punishment for the locals who are only trying to help their communities. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cldyny34kx4o Quote City councillor Amjid Wazir said the authority considered the matter resolved. Cheers Councillor Wazir. I suspect they won't be voting for him in the future! 1
Wymsey Posted 10 July 2024 Posted 10 July 2024 (edited) 28 minutes ago, st albans fox said: He’s been found by police not confirmed if he’s alive or dead The BBC aren't saying anything on it, though? Edit: Also there's an ambulance reported at Enfield Cemetery.. Edited 10 July 2024 by Wymsey
Jattdogg Posted 10 July 2024 Posted 10 July 2024 21 minutes ago, Wymsey said: The BBC aren't saying anything on it, though? Edit: Also there's an ambulance reported at Enfield Cemetery.. Read that this guy's brother is in jail for murder as well. The fook is wrong with this family? https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/07/10/suspected-crossbow-killer-kyle-clifford-brother-murderer/
urban.spaceman Posted 10 July 2024 Posted 10 July 2024 21 minutes ago, Wymsey said: The BBC aren't saying anything on it, though? Possibly decided to limit/change style of coverage considering the victim’s family is a colleague. 1
Wymsey Posted 10 July 2024 Posted 10 July 2024 Just now, urban.spaceman said: Possibly decided to limit/change style of coverage considering the victim’s family is a colleague. That could well be true, didn't think of that - thanks.
Unabomber Posted 10 July 2024 Posted 10 July 2024 1 hour ago, st albans fox said: He’s been found by police not confirmed if he’s alive or dead ITK
Suzie the Fox Posted 10 July 2024 Posted 10 July 2024 https://news.sky.com/story/kyle-clifford-manhunt-latest-murdered-women-were-alive-when-ambulances-arrived-13175961 Apprehended and taken to hospital with some injuries
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