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Posted
15 minutes ago, 99.1% BLUE said:

Not sure if already been mentioned, but interesting looking back on when Marti was interviewed, by OPA on BBC RL I think, and him speaking about BDCR with such significance. I remember being puzzled at the time as many others were. 
 

Ugghh what a wordy sentence and acronyms much 😂 

Yeah this was a red flag for a lot including myself tbh, now he's the most productive player in the team by a distance. 

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Posted
Just now, MPH said:

Is it worth trying BDCR as a no.9?
 

 

I know that sounds absurd, but it’s more to do with what the other options are…

He is literally our only fit number 10. Why would you want to change that?

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Posted
1 minute ago, Chelmofox said:

He is literally our only fit number 10. Why would you want to change that?


 

because  it would be the better option. Ayew has no pace and makes an awful no.9.ayew does sometimes pull players into the game with his passing and so I’d be interested to see them swap for a game. I just think having a more mobile no.9 would benefit the team in general

Posted
7 minutes ago, MPH said:


 

because  it would be the better option. Ayew has no pace and makes an awful no.9.ayew does sometimes pull players into the game with his passing and so I’d be interested to see them swap for a game. I just think having a more mobile no.9 would benefit the team in general

 

We just need a more mobile 9. But to benefit the 9 you need a decent 10. Bobby has done well in that role. 

Posted
1 hour ago, Chelmofox said:

 

We just need a more mobile 9. But to benefit the 9 you need a decent 10. Bobby has done well in that role. 


 

I don’t disagree with what you’re saying… but i know it could still be a few weeks before we  can get a  no.9 in..

Posted
Just now, MPH said:


 

I don’t disagree with what you’re saying… but i know it could still be a few weeks before we  can get a  no.9 in..

Bobby cant play 90 mins a game. Ramsey is an injury nightmare but a great player.

 

Personally think they have to rotate the 10 from here. 

 

Posted
1 hour ago, Chelmofox said:

Bobby cant play 90 mins a game. Ramsey is an injury nightmare but a great player.

 

Personally think they have to rotate the 10 from here. 

 

Monga is a possibility to play the 10 when he's back too.

Posted
2 hours ago, Finnegan said:

 

"His intelligence bringing other people in to play" is probably his biggest weakness and what I hate the most about him. 

 

This might be a funny thing to say for someone so obsessed with data but I can actually forgive low numbers if there's still some metrics by which someone shines. 

 

I loved Shinji. Didn't score, didn't assist, was an absolute statistical aberration by most metrics but we don't win the league without him. He created so much space for Vardy and he was also an absolutely vital pivot that connected up a lot of our play on halfway. A lot of our progression up the pitch was balls fired at Shinji and him turning and laying it off to someone more gifted in the final third. 

 

I'd love Ayew to contribute this way but he's the most head-down player we have. He plays like a 12 year old on the playground that thinks he's the best on the team. Dribble, dribble, dribble, dribble down blind alleys, get tackled and lose the ball. If he's lucky, win a foul then waste the free kick. 

 

I disagree with this. My biggest frustration with him is how much he goes down because referees just stop giving him anything, and rightly so. He does it way too often.

 

But I don't think you can doubt his technical ability and him bringing others into play. Since Reid has come in, he has players around him who are actually good enough to link up too. 

 

He has his faults no doubt, he's too slow to be a Premier League player now. But I can see why he's been at the top level for so long. 

Posted
3 hours ago, MPH said:

Is it worth trying BDCR as a no.9?
 

 

I know that sounds absurd, but it’s more to do with what the other options are…

Normally I wouldn’t give these sort of suggestions the time of day but, given that our current options are so hideous, it’s worthy of further consideration. He probably couldn’t do much worse than the alternatives. 
 

He has, however, finally found a position whereby he can contribute to the team. Marti has only just got a midfield that seems to have balance. We can’t state we’ve turned a corner yet as it’s only based on a few games and is very fragile to any tweaking.

 

I wouldn’t want to disrupt the midfield at the moment with putting Ayew in at no. 10 or playing James higher. I’d rather build on what we have. For me that’s adding an actual striker in January.

 

With Winks not playing we could also do with a decent backup CM and possibly a LB. Hopefully with careful additions and new found confidence we might be able to continue with an upwards trajectory. So I’d change as little as possible right now 

Posted

4 goals from 1.4 xG -  he's running very hot at the moment, good player but I think some need to temper their expectations a bit.

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Posted
4 hours ago, MPH said:

Is it worth trying BDCR as a no.9?
 

 

I know that sounds absurd, but it’s more to do with what the other options are…

 

"A player is doing really well, should we move him to a different position" 

 

Marti, is that you? 

 

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Posted

In Reid's 20 goal season in the Champs, he did play up front but in a 2 off of a big, physical striker.

 

We dont and wont be playing that sort of system any time soon, so I'd tend to think that it might be best to leave him playing in a position that he seems to be doing pretty well in.

 

Posted
1 hour ago, Stadt said:

4 goals from 1.4 xG -  he's running very hot at the moment, good player but I think some need to temper their expectations a bit.

xG is an average stat across all players, doesn't take into account that some players are ten times better at finishing than others. Way I see it is, give the chances Bobby has to Daka and they end up in row Z or sliced behind him.

 

Fella deserves credit for being a bloody good finisher. The goals he's scored have been no fluke.

Posted
1 hour ago, Finnegan said:

 

"A player is doing really well, should we move him to a different position" 

 

Marti, is that you? 

 


lol

 

its more to do with us having very little to offer as our main striker

Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, Jobyfox said:

Normally I wouldn’t give these sort of suggestions the time of day but, given that our current options are so hideous, it’s worthy of further consideration. He probably couldn’t do much worse than the alternatives. 
 

He has, however, finally found a position whereby he can contribute to the team. Marti has only just got a midfield that seems to have balance. We can’t state we’ve turned a corner yet as it’s only based on a few games and is very fragile to any tweaking.

 

I wouldn’t want to disrupt the midfield at the moment with putting Ayew in at no. 10 or playing James higher. I’d rather build on what we have. For me that’s adding an actual striker in January.

 

With Winks not playing we could also do with a decent backup CM and possibly a LB. Hopefully with careful additions and new found confidence we might be able to continue with an upwards trajectory. So I’d change as little as possible right now 


 

I think I’m just desperate  to see our striker contribute something… and he was very prolific actually when he last played on this division.

 

but yeah, our midfield seems to  be somewhat settled so there isn’t  much of a clamor to change it..  might be looked at a bit more when  Ramsey  returns to full fitness.

 

 
I’m all for giving Antonio a contract but we’d be silly to think he can play 90 minutes straight off that bat, so we might need another option

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Posted
10 minutes ago, OntarioFox said:

xG is an average stat across all players, doesn't take into account that some players are ten times better at finishing than others. Way I see it is, give the chances Bobby has to Daka and they end up in row Z or sliced behind him.

 

Fella deserves credit for being a bloody good finisher. The goals he's scored have been no fluke.

Is it more likely he's just on a hot streak or he's actually one of the best shooters ever?

 

The best ever players slightly out perform xG. Messi had 29 goals from 22.4 xG this season. If he carried on at this rate he'll get 20 goals this season, that's not happening. The average goals per shot in the Championship is 0.10 and he's at 0.29 so far, his career g/s is 0.16.

Posted
2 hours ago, Stadt said:

4 goals from 1.4 xG -  he's running very hot at the moment, good player but I think some need to temper their expectations a bit.

And aside from the goals, he's not involved that much. Dont get me wrong, he's far far far more involved than last season when he was a complete a passenger I've ever seen. He now looks OK, ish. As a stand in. 

 

And maybe, he's got a nice knack for reading the game and happens through skill - and not luck - to be nicely positioned to score these goals

 

 

Posted

Lots of credit to BDCR this season. Thought he was generally poor last year but he was constantly played out of position on the wing. This season he’s grown into being an influential number 10, not in the ‘in your face’ style of a Maddison  type, more like a Mason Mount. Not necessarily doing lots on the ball, but intelligent, particularly postionally, with an eye for a layoff or 1-2 and with a fabulous finish in his locker. When Rambo is fit we’ll have two very effective and quite different 10’s at this level who can rotate the start and finish depending on the opponent. 👍🏻👍🏻

Posted
5 hours ago, Gamble92 said:

I disagree with this. My biggest frustration with him is how much he goes down because referees just stop giving him anything, and rightly so. He does it way too often.

 

But I don't think you can doubt his technical ability and him bringing others into play. Since Reid has come in, he has players around him who are actually good enough to link up too. 

 

He has his faults no doubt, he's too slow to be a Premier League player now. But I can see why he's been at the top level for so long. 

but bringing people into play involves releasing the ball and not playing for the free kick every time, and that is something Ayew does far too often - dribble it a bit, look for contact and go down for the free kick. Meaning he really doesn't bring people into play as much as he should 

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