leicsmac Posted 18 October 2024 Posted 18 October 2024 On the general topic, Russia must be running rather short on willing or able manpower to have to ask the NKs for help, if this is true. 2
ClaphamFox Posted 18 October 2024 Posted 18 October 2024 1 minute ago, leicsmac said: On the general topic, Russia must be running rather short on willing or able manpower to have to ask the NKs for help, if this is true. Well quite. At the daily attrition rate I mention just above, even a country with a population the size of Russia is going to have trouble getting enough trained men to the front at some point. It also makes you wonder how successfully they're hiding the true extent of their losses back in Russia - it wouldn't do much for recruitment purposes if it was known that being sent to the front meant a very high chance of being dead within weeks. 1
Zear0 Posted 18 October 2024 Posted 18 October 2024 30 minutes ago, leicsmac said: On the general topic, Russia must be running rather short on willing or able manpower to have to ask the NKs for help, if this is true. Believe the idea is to use them as territorial guards to free up more Russians for the front. In addition, I read that half the artillery shells fired this year were of DPRK origin proving that Russia is becoming very reliant on other countries equipment/resources to continue the war. The idea that Putin will benefit from a long war may be another of his bluffs that has become gospel in the West as they're equally running out of men and materiel. That being said, still suspect they'll edge to the Donbas border, claim it as a victory and cause a cessation to this hideous war of conquest allowing both sides to claim "victory". 1
ithuriel Posted 18 October 2024 Posted 18 October 2024 32 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said: Well quite. At the daily attrition rate I mention just above, even a country with a population the size of Russia is going to have trouble getting enough trained men to the front at some point. It also makes you wonder how successfully they're hiding the true extent of their losses back in Russia - it wouldn't do much for recruitment purposes if it was known that being sent to the front meant a very high chance of being dead within weeks. Makes you wonder what the desertion rate is.
kenny Posted 18 October 2024 Posted 18 October 2024 11 minutes ago, Zear0 said: Believe the idea is to use them as territorial guards to free up more Russians for the front. In addition, I read that half the artillery shells fired this year were of DPRK origin proving that Russia is becoming very reliant on other countries equipment/resources to continue the war. The idea that Putin will benefit from a long war may be another of his bluffs that has become gospel in the West as they're equally running out of men and materiel. That being said, still suspect they'll edge to the Donbas border, claim it as a victory and cause a cessation to this hideous war of conquest allowing both sides to claim "victory". Ukraine has confirmed that there are 11000 troops training and will be ready for combat by November. Might be BS from Ukraine but there is no way Russia will resist sending them to the front line.
Zear0 Posted 18 October 2024 Posted 18 October 2024 12 minutes ago, kenny said: Ukraine has confirmed that there are 11000 troops training and will be ready for combat by November. Might be BS from Ukraine but there is no way Russia will resist sending them to the front line. Think trying to rattle S. Korea into donating stuff is also part of their angle by inferring a volume of "battle hardened" DPKR soldier will soon be heading back to Korea.
leicsmac Posted 18 October 2024 Posted 18 October 2024 25 minutes ago, Zear0 said: Believe the idea is to use them as territorial guards to free up more Russians for the front. In addition, I read that half the artillery shells fired this year were of DPRK origin proving that Russia is becoming very reliant on other countries equipment/resources to continue the war. The idea that Putin will benefit from a long war may be another of his bluffs that has become gospel in the West as they're equally running out of men and materiel. That being said, still suspect they'll edge to the Donbas border, claim it as a victory and cause a cessation to this hideous war of conquest allowing both sides to claim "victory". It seems like it is slowly playing out towards some kind of deal whereby Russia keeps some or most of the land it's taken, but Ukraine gets into NATO and has Article 5 protection henceforth. Of course, both sides are saying that's unacceptable right now from their own points of view, but as things drag on I reckon that will just become all talk.
leicsmac Posted 18 October 2024 Posted 18 October 2024 Just now, Zear0 said: Think trying to rattle S. Korea into donating stuff is also part of their angle by inferring a volume of "battle hardened" DPKR soldier will soon be heading back to Korea. That's another possible angle. I don't particularly mind the SK's limiting their own support to purely moral though - can understand it isn't their fight.
South Shire Fox Posted 18 October 2024 Posted 18 October 2024 14 hours ago, Jattdogg said: I suppose but the other side doesn't really have to worry about that happening to their psycho leadership. Probably because they are well funded and well armed. Im pretty sure if the roles were reversed Palestine/Hamas would be bombing the shit out of Israel as well. All as bad as each other in a conflict thats never going to end
Dr The Singh Posted 18 October 2024 Posted 18 October 2024 2 hours ago, Jattdogg said: Yea but india basically told us to do one. Meanwhile the similar case with USA they're licking the states lun. Modi is a phudu. Atleast Trudeu did something. UK however: https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=2139057616478106 * Foreign Secretary refuses to say #JagtarSinghJohal “arbitrarily” imprisoned * New Foreign Secretary David Lammy refused to repeat previous statements made before The Labour Party were elected about Jaggi being “arbitrarily” detained by India. The callous u-turn by Lammy was exposed during a BBC Scotland News interview (see video below), led by respected reporter Katie Hunter. Read: SikhPA.com/FreeJaggiNow #FreeJaggiNow See less The poor fella a British Citizen has been in prison without trial for over 7 years. If it were Iran, China, North Korea, Lammy and the British press would be it day by day. 1
Sol thewall Bamba Posted 18 October 2024 Posted 18 October 2024 1 hour ago, Zear0 said: Think trying to rattle S. Korea into donating stuff is also part of their angle by inferring a volume of "battle hardened" DPKR soldier will soon be heading back to Korea. I very much doubt that many of them will be returning.
Wymsey Posted 18 October 2024 Posted 18 October 2024 (edited) An interesting take on the Madeleine McCann disappearance. https://youtu.be/VP7mAoD2-ps?si=_foSFkvTmT7yFKdH Edited 18 October 2024 by Wymsey
urban.spaceman Posted 18 October 2024 Posted 18 October 2024 SAFE PAIR OF HANDS??? The guy who called a snap referendum, had no plan for the eventuality of leaving then ****ed off as soon as we voted the wrong way? The only thing worse than the Tories is their client media writing this offensive filth instead of holding them to account.
Trav Le Bleu Posted 18 October 2024 Posted 18 October 2024 3 hours ago, ClaphamFox said: Well quite. At the daily attrition rate I mention just above, even a country with a population the size of Russia is going to have trouble getting enough trained men to the front at some point. It also makes you wonder how successfully they're hiding the true extent of their losses back in Russia - it wouldn't do much for recruitment purposes if it was known that being sent to the front meant a very high chance of being dead within weeks. Number of Russians wanting to risk their lives in a foreign military campaign versus number of Ukrainians willing to defend their homeland probably sees Ukraine with the greater number.
Trav Le Bleu Posted 18 October 2024 Posted 18 October 2024 51 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said: I very much doubt that many of them will be returning. It'd be hilarious if they all tried to defect to Ukraine. 1
SecretPro Posted 18 October 2024 Posted 18 October 2024 2 hours ago, South Shire Fox said: Probably because they are well funded and well armed. Im pretty sure if the roles were reversed Palestine/Hamas would be bombing the shit out of Israel as well. All as bad as each other in a conflict thats never going to end True enough, issue is one is classed as a Terrorist Organisation, the other is a Western backed Government.
jgtuk Posted 18 October 2024 Posted 18 October 2024 2 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said: Number of Russians wanting to risk their lives in a foreign military campaign versus number of Ukrainians willing to defend their homeland probably sees Ukraine with the greater number. Not sure of the numbers but I’ve seen several articles about Ukrainian men fleeing to avoid forced conscription. The whole thing is a sh1tshow
jgtuk Posted 18 October 2024 Posted 18 October 2024 3 minutes ago, SecretPro said: True enough, issue is one is classed as a Terrorist Organisation, the other is a Western backed Government. This is so true. The current Israeli administration is full of terrorists and ruthless genocidal maniacs and yet is still being courted by the west. 2
Lionator Posted 18 October 2024 Posted 18 October 2024 2 hours ago, Zear0 said: Believe the idea is to use them as territorial guards to free up more Russians for the front. In addition, I read that half the artillery shells fired this year were of DPRK origin proving that Russia is becoming very reliant on other countries equipment/resources to continue the war. The idea that Putin will benefit from a long war may be another of his bluffs that has become gospel in the West as they're equally running out of men and materiel. That being said, still suspect they'll edge to the Donbas border, claim it as a victory and cause a cessation to this hideous war of conquest allowing both sides to claim "victory". What’s funny is that was the plan Macron had for French troops on the ground in Ukraine but then he chickened out because he was scared of Putin. Now Putin stole the idea and did it the other way
Lionator Posted 18 October 2024 Posted 18 October 2024 (edited) Major bus vs tram crash in Manchester City centre, doesn’t look good. https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/live-air-ambulance-lands-piccadilly-30177986 Edited 18 October 2024 by Lionator 1
filbertway Posted 18 October 2024 Posted 18 October 2024 1 minute ago, Lionator said: Major bus vs tram crash in Manchester City centre, doesn’t look good. https://t.co/yHVl1zQmIq Is this the new version of rick rolling?
Dunge Posted 18 October 2024 Posted 18 October 2024 4 hours ago, kenny said: Ukraine has confirmed that there are 11000 troops training and will be ready for combat by November. Might be BS from Ukraine but there is no way Russia will resist sending them to the front line. There’s talk of them defending the border while redeploying Russian forces to somewhere else. I would’ve thought that would be defeating the object though: Putin wants warm, non-Russian bodies to throw into the meat grinder. Having North Koreans only defending the border doesn’t stem the flow of Russian corpses. Plus I doubt Kim cares whether they come back or not. The “alliance” would be worth it many times over to him. He’d just make sure not to send his best soldiers, which Putin and his meat grinder wouldn’t need anyway.
jgtuk Posted 18 October 2024 Posted 18 October 2024 1 hour ago, Trav Le Bleu said: Number of Russians wanting to risk their lives in a foreign military campaign versus number of Ukrainians willing to defend their homeland probably sees Ukraine with the greater number. Lots of reports of Ukrainian men fleeing the country to avoid conscription, in fact I’ve read reports of conscription squads searching for anyone of eligible age as they are so short of manpower. 1
leicsmac Posted 18 October 2024 Posted 18 October 2024 War weariness is beginning to show quite clearly in both invested parties, I think.
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