A Call for Change: A Footballing Reset at Leicester City Football Club

[Happy Fox]

We need to protest these clowns out of our club.

[Stadt]

11 minutes ago, Trekerz said:

Top is currently in Spain at the fun fair by the way🤣.  No wonder he had to leave after the first half on Saturday 

He's a man child. Never see or hear of him doing anything, it's just gallivanting, occasional game, polo etc

[dannythefox]

Top can do what he wants but the fans won’t stop till Rudkin is out. He has to be held accountable for his actions. 

[Trekerz]

3 minutes ago, Stadt said:

He's a man child. Never see or hear of him doing anything, it's just gallivanting, occasional game, polo etc

Will never forget grown men bowing down worshipping him on the streets of Eindhoven. Genuinely one of the worst things I’ve ever seen 

Edited 20 January by Trekerz

[Larry_LCFC]

The bottom line is, Top is so out of his depth when it comes to football club ownership. Vichai had the business brains and the passion, it was his dream. Top running Leicester is like me trying to be a surgeon. I could cut you open and tinker around with a few things but ultimately you are going to end up dead. He hasn't got a clue what he is doing and he is literally killing us.

[Gamble92]

1 hour ago, dnewty said:

Notice how Stringers gone very quiet ….

I think the circumstances around him losing his job reporting on the club is more to do with it. He still goes to some games now but I think what happened is still very raw for him and I don't think he'd want to be all over socials giving his opinion negatively about the club. 

 

He's also very much in the camp of we should just be eternally grateful for the Premier League and FA Cup, and should attribute all that to King Power. A lot of people are. It's a massive reason why we've allowed ourselves to get to this point. It's a few years too late but at least most people are waking up now. 

[CosbehFox]

3 minutes ago, Trekerz said:

Will never forget grown men bowing down worshipping him on the streets of Eindhoven. Genuinely one of the worst things I’ve ever seen 

The day sanity left some 

[Gamble92]

8 minutes ago, dannythefox said:

Top can do what he wants but the fans won’t stop till Rudkin is out. He has to be held accountable for his actions. 

I love how this sounds like the tagline to an 80s sci fi thriller on the front of the VHS

[Mickyblueeyes]

Seagrave pisses me off the most. I mean Whelan, Capper etc. are business people. Money people. I’d love to know why they decided to go with it. What was the thinking.  Or, like everything else, was it forced on them.

[Finnegan]

30 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

Seagrave pisses me off the most. I mean Whelan, Capper etc. are business people. Money people. I’d love to know why they decided to go with it. What was the thinking.  Or, like everything else, was it forced on them.

 

For the life of me I cannot get my head around why some people constantly keep moaning about Seagrave. It was and is an objectively good move.

 

It has no impact on FFP / PSR, we can build all of the training facilities we want, we can build ten Seagraves, it's not had an impact on the current financial problems but it IS an extremely valuable asset that the club now own.

 

You can criticise the current ownership for many, many, many, many, many things but on what planet was building world class training facilities (and they are world class training facilities) a bad thing?

 

And absolutely, 100% miss me with that "iT mAdE tHe PlAyErS soFt" horseshit as if they can't possibly put up a fight unless they're training out of Rothley Imps U9s PortaKabin.

 

[Mickyblueeyes]

2 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

For the life of me I cannot get my head around why some people constantly keep moaning about Seagrave. It was and is an objectively good move.

 

It has no impact on FFP / PSR, we can build all of the training facilities we want, we can build ten Seagraves, it's not had an impact on the current financial problems but it IS an extremely valuable asset that the club now own.

 

You can criticise the current ownership for many, many, many, many, many things but on what planet was building world class training facilities (and they are world class training facilities) a bad thing?

 

And absolutely, 100% miss me with that "iT mAdE tHe PlAyErS soFt" horseshit as if they can't possibly put up a fight unless they're training out of Rothley Imps U9s PortaKabin.

 

Tantrum again 🤣

 

Seagrave is an expensive vanity project far too big for a club or our size but most importantly it’s a real estate infrastructure investment that does not generate significant income. Have you ever considered why it’s only Real Madrid who holds a training ground of equivalent value ? And before you come back and tell me it’s to get super technical players like Ayew, it isn’t, 

 

There are countless reasons why an investment of this magnitude, for the long term benefit of the club should’ve initially have been directed to a genuine income source. 

[ProjectReset]

@PAULCFC @Mickyblueeyes @C.J

 

Thanks for you feedback - please see updated icon here. 

 

Apologies, it's basic - at work & limited time for graphic design! The main point is that (1) it's distinctive & recognisable (2) lays a foundation for colour coordination that will become more important later down the line (3) is light on detail

 

Hope this works better for you. 

[StanSP]

5 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

Tantrum again 🤣

 

Seagrave is an expensive vanity project far too big for a club or our size but most importantly it’s a real estate infrastructure investment that does not generate significant income. Have you ever considered why it’s only Real Madrid who holds a training ground of equivalent value ? And before you come back and tell me it’s to get super technical players like Ayew, it isn’t, 

 

There are countless reasons why an investment of this magnitude, for the long term benefit of the club should’ve initially have been directed to a genuine income source. 

How long has Seagrave been open? 

 

It's huge, but we can't on one hand claim to be ambitious and then knock Seagrave on the head and claim it's too ambitious. 

 

No one at the club has ever alluded to wanting to be like Real Madrid (hopefully!) but the problem isn't Seagrave itself. It's the people running the club (this is a common denominator) that are the issue, and within this, people running Seagrave. 

 

It's a big attraction no matter what we as fans think. Players love it, clearly. 

 

 

[Finnegan]

1 minute ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

Tantrum again 🤣

 

Eh? That's what a trantrum looks like to you? I'm not particularly upset, it's just easier to chuck a cheap ad hominem in there in an attempt to undermine than put your hand up and admit it was a silly thing to say.

 

5 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

Seagrave is an expensive vanity project far too big for a club or our size

 

I'd probably call owning a Premier League football club an expensive vanity project by default, to be quite honest. That said, Seagrave isn't just a statue or a piece of artwork, it's a functional, operational facility with a shit load of potential, not just for the training of the first team but for the long term development of potential future first team players.

 

It absolutely has been horrendously under-utilised and will likely continue to be so (I've literally just said that in a post an hour ago) but actually having it is objectively a positive.

 

If the club was actual in dire financial trouble, threatened with administration, desperately clinging on, could barely afford to pay it's staff and players but was still building shit like Seagrave then - absolutely - sure, yeah, criticise. But that's not the problem we have, is it?

 

9 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

that does not generate significant income

 

Yeah and, look, building structures that increase the club's commercial revenue in a sense that can be used to offset our PSR / FFP should be a priority and should have been handled with more urgency but stadium development and Seagrave weren't mutually exclusive, it wasn't one or the other. Money isn't the hold up for the stadium expansion, is it, it's been a combination of politics and the nosedive in on-field performance over the last three years. It was always going to take longer to do major work to the ground in the city than it was to build on a golf course in the middle of nowhere (which was still held up considerably.)

 

Look, I get it, it's shit-on-Top week and the vast majority of the criticism being hurled at the ownership is perfectly justifiable. But the owners building a highly lauded and top class facility that has literally 0 impact on our PSR/FFP sheet "pissing you off the most" is a pretty ****ing weird position right now.

 

 

[dmayne7]

20 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

For the life of me I cannot get my head around why some people constantly keep moaning about Seagrave. It was and is an objectively good move.

 

It has no impact on FFP / PSR, we can build all of the training facilities we want, we can build ten Seagraves, it's not had an impact on the current financial problems but it IS an extremely valuable asset that the club now own.

 

You can criticise the current ownership for many, many, many, many, many things but on what planet was building world class training facilities (and they are world class training facilities) a bad thing?

 

And absolutely, 100% miss me with that "iT mAdE tHe PlAyErS soFt" horseshit as if they can't possibly put up a fight unless they're training out of Rothley Imps U9s PortaKabin.

 

Seagrave or an expanded stadium? That's basically what it was and a better stadium is commercially a no brainer plus it's probably much better in terms of prestige.

 

Seagrave was a good investment, it's just the timing/prioritisation was wrong. As it always is under this regime.

[lcfcbluearmy]

15 minutes ago, ProjectReset said:

@PAULCFC @Mickyblueeyes @C.J

 

Thanks for you feedback - please see updated icon here. 

 

Apologies, it's basic - at work & limited time for graphic design! The main point is that (1) it's distinctive & recognisable (2) lays a foundation for colour coordination that will become more important later down the line (3) is light on detail

 

Hope this works better for you. 

Much better the addition of the lcfc badge makes clear what it is about without it was unclear/ could have been anything.

 

Thanks for your work setting this up

[The_77]

1 hour ago, dannythefox said:

Top can do what he wants but the fans won’t stop till Rudkin is out. He has to be held accountable for his actions. 

Rudkin cannot make any major decisions without Top’s blessing. A change in DoF will also require Top to make major changes to how he runs the club. 

[Gamble92]

I think as much as there is obviously truth in it about the Premier League gunning for us and we all know how bullshit PSR is, the way the club used that to distance themselves from any blame is laughable.

 

You can't say we are second bottom because the Premier League want us there. Even with just a result against Wolves we'd be out the relegation zone. Even with all the sales we've made, this situation was still entirely avoidable. Still feels like some of you are buying into everything being someone else's fault.

Edited 20 January by Gamble92

[Gamble92]

33 minutes ago, The_77 said:

Rudkin cannot make any major decisions without Top’s blessing. A change in DoF will also require Top to make major changes to how he runs the club. 

The horrendous decisions from the ownership have always been there. They've got incredibly lucky. Not many clubs have got promotion to the Premier League by making 2 bad managerial appointments out of 3. The non sacking of Pearson 99 times out of 100 confirms relegation. At so many different points in the timeline this all goes just as badly as it is doing now and we would absolutely hate these owners. The success of others has allowed them to become what they are. 

Edited 20 January by Gamble92

[MattFox]

5 hours ago, CosbehFox said:

We are going over old ground here but the club have no inkling of preparing and targeting managerial appointments. They follow up 'applications' rather than say that's our man (except Rodgers but you still feel like they have been something which led them to that given how quickly it all evolved). 

 

 

Rodgers agent basically sold him to the club 

 

We stupidly took congleton as part of the deal

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

I see the Athletic are saying that we are slow at doing deals because Rudkin is spread too thinly. We knew this, and also obviously he lacks competencies, but just your daily reminder of the amateur circus that is our football club. 

[MattFox]

6 hours ago, Paninistickers said:

I also hope this protest zones in on the general antipathy the club has towards it's supporters and ticket selling 

 

The charge sheet for this is long..three I would list, deliberately historic to illustrate the point the mismanagement has been for years 

 

1. Charity shield tix were effectively hidden away. -General sale was for one single  morning  just 24 hours prior to match....in favour of a social media pump of Villarreal friendly tickets

 

2. General sale last season generally went unannounced / unadvertised, leaving fan groups to spread  the word.  Result were empty seats week after week for games that could easily have sold out 

 

3. The Europa fiasco of control freakery  / refusal to offer Moscow ticket 'letter of intent'   to supporters until after the visa deadline had passed. Consequently only 26 travelled. 

 

 

Your forgetting the FA cup final “mandatory” bus fiasco too

 

 

[Electric Yetis]

Just had my email asking me for my matchday experience comments.

 

[foxinsocks]

17 minutes ago, Gamble92 said:

The horrendous decisions from the ownership have always been there. They've got incredibly lucky. Not many clubs have got promotion from the Premier League by making 2 bad managerial appointments out of 3. The non sacking of Pearson 99 times out of 100 confirms relegation. At so many different points in the timeline this all goes just as badly as it is doing now and we would absolutely hate these owners. The success of others has allowed them to become what they are. 

Early doors they brought in sven who bright in Ricardo

... there was never a golden age from kp

[Gamble92]

10 minutes ago, Wasyls Pec Deck said:

I see the Athletic are saying that we are slow at doing deals because Rudkin is spread too thinly. We knew this, and also obviously he lacks competencies, but just your daily reminder of the amateur circus that is our football club. 

Feels like the club, or just him, trying to make fans feel sorry for Rudkin. 

 

They haven't just woke up and realised every other Premier League club has multiple director roles and we have one juggling 2 clubs. This is a conscious decision.