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[Trav Le Bleu]

7 hours ago, Md9 said:

Vance dropping and breaking the trophy yesterday pretty much sums him up doesn’t it. Muppet 

Very much the Dean Richards of politics.

[leicsmac]

13 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

Very much the Dean Richards of politics.

Wayne Brown.

[FoxesDeb]

5 hours ago, Torquay Gunner said:

Can’t see that second hand car salesman getting anywhere near the levers of power, like to think most Brits are not as gullible as our American cousins. 

Based on what I'm seeing on both social media and my wider family, which is obviously a very small sample size, I'm afraid I don't share your optimism.

[leicsmac]

1 hour ago, FoxesDeb said:

Based on what I'm seeing on both social media and my wider family, which is obviously a very small sample size, I'm afraid I don't share your optimism.

The general polling figures sadly tell a similar story, too.

[Sampson]

We’ll see whether Trump is imposing the Insurrection Act on Easter Sunday. Could be a huge moment.

Edited 15 April by Sampson

[leicsmac]

36 minutes ago, Sampson said:

We’ll see whether Trump is imposing the Insurrection Act on Easter Sunday. Could be a huge moment.

There's going to be massive civil unrest, at the very least, before this is all over.

[Md9]

I have never wanted someone to disappear of the face of the earth more than trump and his crazy crew of nut jobs 

[Sampson]

10 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

There's going to be massive civil unrest, at the very least, before this is all over.

I think the MAGAs want there to be. That’s the goal of Project 2025. It allows them to send in the military and declare martial law/national emergency. It’s the tried and tested authoritarian handbook. 

[Free Falling Foxes]

42 minutes ago, Sampson said:

I think the MAGAs want there to be. That’s the goal of Project 2025. It allows them to send in the military and declare martial law/national emergency. It’s the tried and tested authoritarian handbook. 

A guest on Newsnight has just said what I and many others are saying, the American people voted for Trump, with most knowing full well what they were getting and the probable consequences.

[st albans fox]

9 hours ago, Sampson said:

We’ll see whether Trump is imposing the Insurrection Act on Easter Sunday. Could be a huge moment.

Surely it should be the resurrection act  ??

[leicsmac]

10 hours ago, Sampson said:

I think the MAGAs want there to be. That’s the goal of Project 2025. It allows them to send in the military and declare martial law/national emergency. It’s the tried and tested authoritarian handbook. 

And so we arrive at the terrible conundrum that such action might be both exactly what the MAGAs want and play to all of their strengths...and also the only way to stop them because if it isn't done they use a pretext to do the same thing anyway, because it's been the objective all along.

 

We live in interesting times.

[Md9]

So now they are crying because china called them peasants ……… after Vance called them peasants 😂 they are on another level from normal Americans 

[Blarmy]

42 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

And so we arrive at the terrible conundrum that such action might be both exactly what the MAGAs want and play to all of their strengths...and also the only way to stop them because if it isn't done they use a pretext to do the same thing anyway, because it's been the objective all along.

 

We live in interesting times.

“Interesting” is one possible description. “Utter w4nk” is another.

[leicsmac]

1 minute ago, Blarmy said:

“Interesting” is one possible description. “Utter w4nk” is another.

Yep.

 

There's a reason that the Chinese use "interesting times" as a curse rather than a blessing.

[Spudulike]

Has sense just broken out in the Supreme Court?! At last!

[ClaphamFox]

5 minutes ago, Spudulike said:

Has sense just broken out in the Supreme Court?! At last!

Yes it has. It was always likely the judgment would go this way, but it is a relief that it has been confirmed. Hopefully we can now focus on ensuring all people are protected against discrimination and harassment without having to indulge in absurd fictions. 

[Spudulike]

9 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said:

Yes it has. It was always likely the judgment would go this way, but it is a relief that it has been confirmed. Hopefully we can now focus on ensuring all people are protected against discrimination and harassment without having to indulge in absurd fictions. 

Let this be the end of men competing in women's sports and entering women only spaces. All public bodies, including NHS, now should be in no doubt what a woman is. No more references to people who menstruate or a man being asked if they could be pregnant before having an x-ray.

 

So pleased today for women.

[leicsmac]

14 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said:

Yes it has. It was always likely the judgment would go this way, but it is a relief that it has been confirmed. Hopefully we can now focus on ensuring all people are protected against discrimination and harassment without having to indulge in absurd fictions. 

That's a rather optimistic outlook given general present circumstances, but of course I hope it turns out that way too.

[leicsmac]

2 minutes ago, Spudulike said:

Let this be the end of men competing in women's sports and entering women only spaces. All public bodies, including NHS, now should be in no doubt what a woman is. No more references to people who menstruate or a man being asked if they could be pregnant before having an x-ray.

 

So pleased today for women.

As per above, let's see if it ends only there.

[Spudulike]

9 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

As per above, let's see if it ends only there.

It has to. It's the law. Politicians need to understand that. No more faulty guidance being forced on schools.

[Dunge]

11 minutes ago, Spudulike said:

It has to. It's the law. Politicians need to understand that. No more faulty guidance being forced on schools.

I think what Mac’s saying is that it’s one thing to put up a blocker to stop a tidal wave going in one direction, but his concern is that the tidal wave could then turn around and power back the other way.

[ealingfox]

58 minutes ago, Spudulike said:

Let this be the end of men competing in women's sports and entering women only spaces. All public bodies, including NHS, now should be in no doubt what a woman is. No more references to people who menstruate or a man being asked if they could be pregnant before having an x-ray.

 

So pleased today for women.

 

I don't think the ruling has any impact on that - it's not inaccurate to describe women as people. As for the second part I'm not even sure that's a real thing and its definitely not standard or universal, I've had multiple x-rays in the last 6 months and not once have I been asked if I might be pregnant.

[leicsmac]

3 hours ago, Dunge said:

I think what Mac’s saying is that it’s one thing to put up a blocker to stop a tidal wave going in one direction, but his concern is that the tidal wave could then turn around and power back the other way.

Yeah, this. The slippery slope isn't always a fallacy.

[The Doctor]

1 hour ago, Spudulike said:

Has sense just broken out in the Supreme Court?! At last!

No, what's happened is that the supreme court has just put the UK in breach of the ECHR.

 

The gender recognition act came in as a result of Goodwin v UK in 2002, which found that blocking the ability to change your sex on your birth certificate violated articles 8 (right to privacy) and 12 (right to marry and found a family). Article 12 is no longer relevant here as the UK has implemented same sex marriage, however article 8 still is. Making the gender recognition certificate essentially irrelevant puts the UK back in breach of that ruling (as the Equality Act had to be drafted with that in mind). What the supreme court has done isn't common sense (it's also not accurate at all w.r.t. biology, biological sex is mutable - if something isn't mutable it ceases to be biological and becomes a matter of sociology), it's making it clear that the UK considers punching down at minorities to be of greater importance than abiding by the ECHR, which should be absolutely terrifying to anyone who holds any sort of protected characteristic (women included, the levels of attacks on womens rights even in first world countries like the US should be of concern). Once again though, trans people are the canaries in the coal mine and it turns out people love to see the canary die.

[leicsmac]

35 minutes ago, The Doctor said:

No, what's happened is that the supreme court has just put the UK in breach of the ECHR.

 

The gender recognition act came in as a result of Goodwin v UK in 2002, which found that blocking the ability to change your sex on your birth certificate violated articles 8 (right to privacy) and 12 (right to marry and found a family). Article 12 is no longer relevant here as the UK has implemented same sex marriage, however article 8 still is. Making the gender recognition certificate essentially irrelevant puts the UK back in breach of that ruling (as the Equality Act had to be drafted with that in mind). What the supreme court has done isn't common sense (it's also not accurate at all w.r.t. biology, biological sex is mutable - if something isn't mutable it ceases to be biological and becomes a matter of sociology), it's making it clear that the UK considers punching down at minorities to be of greater importance than abiding by the ECHR, which should be absolutely terrifying to anyone who holds any sort of protected characteristic (women included, the levels of attacks on womens rights even in first world countries like the US should be of concern). Once again though, trans people are the canaries in the coal mine and it turns out people love to see the canary die.

One wonders, for instance, how much of the outrage over the tragic case of Brianna Ghey was purely performative.