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Championship 2025/26 Season

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moore_94

moore_94

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15 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Whats the distribution of goals by team this season? We surely are bottom of the league for goals from strikers.

I think Charlton, Portsmouth and Blackburn only have 1 goal scored by a striker for them

 

I guess we are technically on 1 but I wouldn't personally call Ayew a striker...

 

There is a few with only 2 goals by strikers as well

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Ric Flair

Ric Flair

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Just now, moore_94 said:

I think Charlton, Portsmouth and Blackburn only have 1 goal scored by a striker for them

 

I guess we are technically on 1 but I wouldn't personally call Ayew a striker...

 

There is a few with only 2 goals by strikers as well

And finally what was Leeds xG at the same point last season compared to ours? Leeds were always massively wasteful in the two years they were in the Championship. My concern is that an assumption we will score/create more eventually, i'm not convinced and we have to prioritise this under Cifuentes.

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moore_94

moore_94

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1 minute ago, Ric Flair said:

And finally what was Leeds xG at the same point last season compared to ours? Leeds were always massively wasteful in the two years they were in the Championship. My concern is that an assumption we will score/create more eventually, i'm not convinced and we have to prioritise this under Cifuentes.

Yeah I am not seeing anything either that makes me think we are all of a sudden going to start creating a lot more chances for a striker or anyone else

 

Leeds at this point last season:

xG - 15.7

xGA - 6.6

 

Us so far this season:

xG - 10.2

xGA - 13.1

Dan

Dan

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14 minutes ago, moore_94 said:

Yeah I am not seeing anything either that makes me think we are all of a sudden going to start creating a lot more chances for a striker or anyone else

 

Leeds at this point last season:

xG - 15.7

xGA - 6.6

 

Us so far this season:

xG - 10.2

xGA - 13.1

We've got to improve. We will pay for this over a whole season.

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kingfox

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Despite winning 3-1 at the weekend, it’s evident that things need to improve at both ends of the pitch. 
 

Luckily we’ve conceded less than expected, but our current xGA number is currently on par with teams like Derby, Oxford and Sheff Utd. 

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foxcrewman

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1 hour ago, moore_94 said:

Yeah I am not seeing anything either that makes me think we are all of a sudden going to start creating a lot more chances for a striker or anyone else

 

Leeds at this point last season:

xG - 15.7

xGA - 6.6

 

Us so far this season:

xG - 10.2

xGA - 13.1

I dont necessarily agree with xG and xGA being the indicators of whether your league position is aligned but I would say that Possession % is a poor measure of likely success. That's despite what many managers  say, including Cifuentes and Maresca, as their philosophy and Holy Grail. 

 

If I recall correctly:

1. We won on Saturday, scoring our most goals in a game this season and guess what our Possession % was less than Swansea's !!!

2. Our best result in 2023-24 was 5-0 home to Russell Martin's Southampton; and our Possession % was 40% in that game. I remember Maresca being dissatisfied with that aspect after the game!! 

3. We won the Prem in 2014-15 by 10 points with our Possession stat % being 17th in the league.. 

 

I rest my case my lord. 

 

 

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Ric Flair

Ric Flair

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1 hour ago, Dan said:

We've got to improve. We will pay for this over a whole season.

As you say, our keeper is arguably the biggest outlier currently. He got slated for Preston and Oxford but the amount of big chances this side is affording rhe opposition has gone unnoticed by many!

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jv1

jv1

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I don’t think you even need to bother with the stats - just use your eyes - we are absolutely bang average - that will be enough to beat plenty of teams in this league as the league is absolutely terrible - the lack of quality is there for everyone to see - we have some tidy footballers and I think the gaffer is doing just about par with what he has at his disposal - we shouldnt be anywhere near good enough to go up with what iv seen but like I said the opposition are also pretty rubbish - a left back , a proper number 10 and a striker and we would probably he promoted - but if my auntie had balls etc etc - enjoy the wins when we get them - hopefully watch us get a bit better the more time marti has with them but don’t expect miracles from this squad - dare I say try and enjoy whatever you can from a rather uneventful season 

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AKCJ

AKCJ

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1 hour ago, Dan said:

We've got to improve. We will pay for this over a whole season.

I do think we are improving to be fair.

 

I think we've worked out the midfield. The opening 7/8 gams with Soumare and Skipp were horrendous.

 

I think our wingers are good enough to keep us scoring enough goals to pick up points for now and we'll improve if and when Ramsey gets up to speed. I think Nelson will come into the defence.

 

A striker in January is a massive priority because we've got nothing there.

 

In the second half of the season we'll have a team like IMO:

 

Stolarcyzk

Ricardo Nelson Vestergaard Thomas

Winks James

Fatawu Ramsey Monga

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With a new striker in January that squad should have too much for the division. The decision to avoid a player like Kone is killing us.

 

 

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Lambert09

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48 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

I do think we are improving to be fair.

 

I think we've worked out the midfield. The opening 7/8 gams with Soumare and Skipp were horrendous.

 

I think our wingers are good enough to keep us scoring enough goals to pick up points for now and we'll improve if and when Ramsey gets up to speed. I think Nelson will come into the defence.

 

A striker in January is a massive priority because we've got nothing there.

 

In the second half of the season we'll have a team like IMO:

 

Stolarcyzk

Ricardo Nelson Vestergaard Thomas

Winks James

Fatawu Ramsey Monga

9

 

With a new striker in January that squad should have too much for the division. The decision to avoid a player like Kone is killing us.

 

 

I posted the same in another thread.  If we’d just been willing to spend 5mill instead of maybe 2/3 m on a loan fee, we’d be looking balanced right now. 
 

Can anyone provide examples of a team going up without a decent striker?  Goals win games and you can’t rely on a season of fatawu wonder goals because too often those will just be strikes into row z 

 

this below sort of backs that up:(only 3 non-strikers listed in 10 years) 

 

### Promoted Teams from the EFL Championship to the Premier League (2015/16 to 2024/25 Seasons)

Below is a list of all teams promoted to the Premier League over the last 10 completed Championship seasons (2015/16 through 2024/25). Each entry includes the season, the promoted teams (top two automatic via league position, plus the playoff winner), and the top goalscorer for each promoted team in the Championship that season (with goals scored). Data is sourced from official EFL records and statistical databases.

| Season     | Promoted Teams                  | Top Goalscorer (Team)              |
|------------|---------------------------------|------------------------------------|
| 2015/16   | Burnley (1st), Middlesbrough (2nd), Hull City (playoff) | Sam Vokes (Burnley, 15 goals)<br>David Nugent (Middlesbrough, 11 goals)<br>Abel Hernández (Hull City, 20 goals) |
| 2016/17   | Newcastle United (1st), Brighton & Hove Albion (2nd), Huddersfield Town (playoff) | Dwight Gayle (Newcastle United, 23 goals)<br>Glenn Murray (Brighton, 23 goals)<br>Nahki Wells (Huddersfield Town, 15 goals) |
| 2017/18   | Wolverhampton Wanderers (1st), Cardiff City (2nd), Fulham (playoff) | Leo Bonatini (Wolves, 12 goals)<br>Junior Hoilett (Cardiff City, 12 goals)<br>Ryan Sessegnon (Fulham, 15 goals) |
| 2018/19   | Norwich City (1st), Sheffield United (2nd), Aston Villa (playoff) | Teemu Pukki (Norwich City, 29 goals)<br>David McGoldrick (Sheffield United, 15 goals)<br>Tammy Abraham (Aston Villa, 26 goals) |
| 2019/20   | Leeds United (1st), West Bromwich Albion (2nd), Fulham (playoff) | Pablo Hernández (Leeds United, 12 goals)<br>Charlie Austin (West Brom, 11 goals)<br>Karlan Grant (Fulham, 14 goals) |
| 2020/21   | Norwich City (1st), Watford (2nd), Brentford (playoff) | Teemu Pukki (Norwich City, 26 goals)<br>Troy Deeney (Watford, 12 goals)<br>Ivan Toney (Brentford, 31 goals) |
| 2021/22   | Fulham (1st), Bournemouth (2nd), Nottingham Forest (playoff) | Aleksandar Mitrović (Fulham, 43 goals)<br>Dominic Solanke (Bournemouth, 29 goals)<br>Saman Ghoddos (Nottingham Forest, 12 goals) |
| 2022/23   | Burnley (1st), Sheffield United (2nd), Luton Town (playoff) | Zian Flemming (Burnley, 21 goals)<br>Ollie McBurnie (Sheffield United, 13 goals)<br>Carlton Morris (Luton Town, 20 goals) |
| 2023/24   | Leicester City (1st), Ipswich Town (2nd), Southampton (playoff) | Jamie Vardy (Leicester City, 21 goals)<br>Ali Al-Hamadi (Ipswich Town, 14 goals)<br>Adam Armstrong (Southampton, 21 goals) |
| 2024/25   | Leeds United (1st), Burnley (2nd), Sunderland (playoff) | Joel Piroe (Leeds United, 21 goals)<br>Jay Rodriguez (Burnley, 18 goals)<br>Tommy Watson (Sunderland, 15 goals) 

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deep blue

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On 05/10/2025 at 13:49, Leeds Fox said:


Whats frustrated me in the past is ALWAYS passing to the closest man, but ending up with the ball where it needs to be.

 

We either seem to miss out someone now or pass sharper. This exploits the space when it’s there. Before, we’d allow the opponent to close any space out wide before we got the ball there.

 

Regardless of how our CBs defend, they can pass well. We’ve used them to shift the ball quicker and with purpose more often.

I've been frustrated watching the same.  So often we eschew the direct ball out to the wing, achieving it eventually by several short passes by which time the oppo defence is well set and has covered the move.

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Pliskin

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Burnley won the majority of their games last season by one goal last season, with the odd thrashing along the way. 
 

I will be interested to see how we fair with Ramsay in the side, which I hope he will eventually get in. 

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l444ry

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Xg is the most pointless and most unreliable statistic used today by people that give more credence to computers than to actually having played winning football.  

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AKCJ

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2 minutes ago, l444ry said:

Xg is the most pointless and most unreliable statistic used today by people that give more credence to computers than to actually having played winning football.  

It literally isn't.

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fox_favourite

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2 minutes ago, l444ry said:

Xg is the most pointless and most unreliable statistic used today by people that give more credence to computers than to actually having played winning football.  

It's a stat of stats. I'm starting to dislike it immensely, that and the phrase 'low block'. 

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LCFCJohn

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56 minutes ago, l444ry said:

Xg is the most pointless and most unreliable statistic used today by people that give more credence to computers than to actually having played winning football.  

In our case, it does back up the visuals for this season to be fair.

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Lambert09

Lambert09

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1 hour ago, l444ry said:

Xg is the most pointless and most unreliable statistic used today by people that give more credence to computers than to actually having played winning football.  

It’s not useless for assessing your ability to create… it is useless for assessing your ability to score.  Because for some strikers, they would regularly finish a low xg chance, because they are a good finisher. Where as a poor one would never finish that type of chance. 
 

If you have a player like fatawu your xg can get worse, because he is more likely to try and smash one from 40 yards.. where as a player like mcateer is more likely to try and create from that moment and thus creates a better xg chance.  Yet you’d prefer to have fatawu  and he’s still more likely to score from a hard chance than mcateer create from the same space.  Sorry for all the waffle 

 

a players ability to pull something off isn’t measured unfortunately and that’s why the indications have to be taken with a grain of salt 

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kingfox

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2 hours ago, l444ry said:

Xg is the most pointless and most unreliable statistic used today by people that give more credence to computers than to actually having played winning football.  

Not a xA type of guy either then 🤔

Ric Flair

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3 hours ago, Pliskin said:

Burnley won the majority of their games last season by one goal last season, with the odd thrashing along the way. 
 

I will be interested to see how we fair with Ramsay in the side, which I hope he will eventually get in. 

Burnley also kept 20+ clean sheets which negated a lack of goals. Our xG for and against makes for quite scary reading. 

Noahfence

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6 minutes ago, UniFox21 said:

 

Another one gone then 

 

 

I know this isn’t exactly impressive with Watford managers but when they appointed him I thought you’ll be gone fairly soon. Seemed like an absolute nobody 

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