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Bluearmyfox28

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4 hours ago, volpeazzurro said:

So what is it about Danny Rohl in comparison that makes him such a hit in comparison in some people's eyes?

 

He's had 5 minutes with a poor Sheffield Wednesday side and done an okayish job. His playing career is nothing to shout about. He is in some people's eyes German therefore foreign and glamorous but is that it, am I missing something? 

 

In comparison, King has experience as a player in different levels of the English league and is a qualified coach. Yes, Rohl has had 10 minutes as a manager and Kingy hasn't, is that absolutely it? Hardly Jurgen Klopp is he!

 

Reverse the question, what in your opinion would have been a good job with regards to Rohl and his time at Sheffield Wednesday? The same question goes to everyone stating Rohl accomplished nothing / did okay.

 

He picked a team up that was buried, almost guaranteed for relegation, saved them. That exact same squad he got within touching distance of the play offs most of the season until squad depth from the big clubs paid off.

 

What I find intriguing is people want Dyche because he gets players and teams grafting. Yet Rohl had one of the hardest working teams in the championship during his time there, he managed to motivate players to work their socks off when they wasn’t even getting paid, in today’s game that’s one hell of an accomplishment.

 

 

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FrankieADZ

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1 hour ago, volpeazzurro said:

Where does Dyche come into that equation, why bring him into it?

 

I'm fully aware being a great player does necessarily make a great manager, but the fact remains, Rohl still hasn't done anything startling. Neither does working under Hansi Flick mean anything either, using your own analogy, how many ex Manchester United players have succeeded or failed just because they worked or played under Sir Alex Ferguson? More have failed I'd suggest so that means bugger all too. How's Ruud getting on?

why not? hes been heavily linked too....

 

well your making out that cos hes at Sheff Weds and kept them in the league when they was bottom, with a league 1 squad and a club thats a complete mess...then getting them to a12th place finish the next season with hardly any funds is an "okay" job. but im sure if Jose or Pep was there, theyd win the league right?

so cos Rohl didnt have much of a player career either that matters too as well, how did Jose playing career go? how did Will Stills go too?

and on the players things, thats more on them, a good number of the Man Utd players who played under Fergie have declared bankruptcy too if that helps

 

i guess your saying Kingy is better than Rohl etc then cos hes had more "experience" playing. although hes no Bobby Robson

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em9999

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There still isn't a new manager 😕  but if there was one,  I pray to god it's either rohl or the ex QPR guy

 

 

 

 

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Steve Earle

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3 hours ago, ClaphamFox said:

Rudkin has been DoF since 2014. During that time we won the PL, the FA Cup and the Championship. I’m not saying any of those things were because of him, but clearly we can sometimes be successful in spite of him.

I’m sorry but that argument is well past its sell-by date! 


I enjoy your posts @ClaphamFox and respect your opinions, but the evidence against Rudkin since 2020 is more than damning.

 

I don’t doubt he made some positive contribution to the successes we had, but that was then. Has he become a better DoF over the years? Has our recruitment improved? Have we managed player contracts better? Have we ensured that valuable players haven’t been able to run their contracts down & leave for nothing?
 

In any other workplace I suspect we’d be in performance management by now. At best!

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trooky

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On 25/06/2025 at 17:01, ClaphamFox said:

Did you actually expect the club to put out an official statement saying, “Yeah we’re gonna sack Ruud but we have to wait until 1July because we’re in the shit with PSR again”?

No, they should make a statement

ClaphamFox

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1 hour ago, Steve Earle said:

I’m sorry but that argument is well past its sell-by date! 


I enjoy your posts @ClaphamFox and respect your opinions, but the evidence against Rudkin since 2020 is more than damning.

 

I don’t doubt he made some positive contribution to the successes we had, but that was then. Has he become a better DoF over the years? Has our recruitment improved? Have we managed player contracts better? Have we ensured that valuable players haven’t been able to run their contracts down & leave for nothing?
 

In any other workplace I suspect we’d be in performance management by now. At best!

I tried to make it clear that I wasn’t defending Rudkin, but obviously I wasn’t clear enough! All I was trying to say was that a good manager can sometimes override a bad DoF, although obviously it would be much better to have a decent DoF AND a decent manager…

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volpeazzurro

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7 hours ago, FrankieADZ said:

why not? hes been heavily linked too....

 

well your making out that cos hes at Sheff Weds and kept them in the league when they was bottom, with a league 1 squad and a club thats a complete mess...then getting them to a12th place finish the next season with hardly any funds is an "okay" job. but im sure if Jose or Pep was there, theyd win the league right?

so cos Rohl didnt have much of a player career either that matters too as well, how did Jose playing career go? how did Will Stills go too?

and on the players things, thats more on them, a good number of the Man Utd players who played under Fergie have declared bankruptcy too if that helps

 

i guess your saying Kingy is better than Rohl etc then cos hes had more "experience" playing. although hes no Bobby Robson

All I'm saying is that Rohl is fine but I wouldn't personally get over excited about him like some. I agree that he's done a decent job, though he didn't have a lot to follow and the players were totally demotivated when he arrived. 

 

I don't see anyone out there that's particularly exciting tbh and in any case, why would anyone rush to come here, a complete basket case of a club, badly run, with the prospect of having up to 12 points deducted before they even start. Also you inherit a squad that clearly have a number of players with a bad attitude who you won't be able to rid yourself of due to their high wages and long contracts who nobody else would in their right minds pay. There's a difference between demotivated at Sheffield Wednesday and those that couldn't care less, believing that they're far better than you actually are!

 

If I was Rohl and had had such a perceived good start in management as you say, why would I sully such a promising reputation by coming to us? Why even risk it? Whatever RVN's faults, by coming here, he's now absolutely bombed his future prospects whether that's his doing or the players, a bit of both in fairness. 

 

Dyche has been around the block but would know doubt command a certain wage and potential severance package before he'd even start, why wouldn't he and would  his heart be really it?  I doubt he's got ambitions to manage a Champions League team now because nobody is ever going to even offer him such a job. It's just another do your best with all the crap you've got job for him.

 

It's either going to be a been round the block has been manager, a panic appointment Cooper or Marsch type or a nothing to lose starting out, or trying for the next level manager like King (very doubtful) or even a Wellens or Robins etc. Beggars can't be choosers either. Top and his magnificent board will have got quite a reputation now, well gone is all the promise, excitement and perceived leadership of the Vichai era. We just look a bunch of bargain basement numpties with a good training ground.

 

 

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Claudio Fannieri

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None of us really know whether Kingy would be any good as a manager or if he has the personality or character to manage players at the top end of the game, what people are basing it on is that he comes across as a nice bloke in interviews, truth is Kingy could be very different in a non media environment.  
 

Whilst it would be a risk and a bit of an unknown, if he had an experienced assistant such as Chris Powell alongside him, then it is certainly something that would unite the fanbase at a time when supporters feel pretty disconnected. He is far from 1st choice but for people to write him off as not being a manager is a bit much. 
 

It’s a big job to start off at but who knows he could be the right person at the right time. 

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Ian S

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30 minutes ago, Winstonthedog said:

Does the club have any direction at the minute.... other than downwards 

That’s an easy one to answer. NO!

markko

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What we know for sure is we have Ruud as manager. No sales announced. Surely some should have gone out of the door. Perhaps the vultures are playing hardball knowing we are on our knees. No players in. I hope much is going on behind the scenes and will be announced next week (Good and bad). That will hopefully mean we get some comment on our financial position and the points deduction. I do not know how much Ruud is due to pocket but I would be tempted to make him see his contract out,.provided those in the know are convinced he is on the right track and players still with him. If he is going we surely want to avoid paying compensation. I personally do not like what I have seen but if he stays and messes up further his reputation will be on the floor so it is in his interest to at least stabilise us. It is a shame how things have turned out. We have been through tough times before. This time at least we have the most brilliant memories to see us through.

suffolk fox

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1 hour ago, Claudio Fannieri said:

None of us really know whether Kingy would be any good as a manager or if he has the personality or character to manage players at the top end of the game, what people are basing it on is that he comes across as a nice bloke in interviews, truth is Kingy could be very different in a non media environment.  
 

Whilst it would be a risk and a bit of an unknown, if he had an experienced assistant such as Chris Powell alongside him, then it is certainly something that would unite the fanbase at a time when supporters feel pretty disconnected. He is far from 1st choice but for people to write him off as not being a manager is a bit much. 
 

It’s a big job to start off at but who knows he could be the right person at the right time. 

Seriously. have a word.  Andy King maybe a nice bloke etc and was more than a decent midfielder for us.  However, a manager he is not.  Where on earth has all this come from?  He has only been a coach for a few weeks and still learning at that too.  Considering him for a managerial post is quite frankly laughable.

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Claudio Fannieri

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Just now, suffolk fox said:

Seriously. have a word.  Andy King maybe a nice bloke etc and was more than a decent midfielder for us.  However, a manager he is not.  Where on earth has all this come from?  He has only been a coach for a few weeks and still learning at that too.  Considering him for a managerial post is quite frankly laughable.

How do you know he is not a manager? That is my point, we don’t know. All I am saying is if Kingy was to appointed at least it would unite the club and fanbase. He is no more of a gamble than bringing in Dyche with a group of young academy prospects that he is highly likely to ignore. 

suffolk fox

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6 minutes ago, Claudio Fannieri said:

How do you know he is not a manager? That is my point, we don’t know. All I am saying is if Kingy was to appointed at least it would unite the club and fanbase. He is no more of a gamble than bringing in Dyche with a group of young academy prospects that he is highly likely to ignore. 

Seriously.  Or are you on a wind up?  Not any managerial experience at all.  None, zadder, Zip.  We need stability, we already have owners that don't know how to run or sort out finances at our football club the last thing we need is an inexperienced unknown manager.  Afterall ex players don't make good managers.  Rooney, Lampard, Shilton, Adams top name but a few.

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murphy

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20 minutes ago, markko said:

What we know for sure is we have Ruud as manager. No sales announced. Surely some should have gone out of the door. Perhaps the vultures are playing hardball knowing we are on our knees. No players in. I hope much is going on behind the scenes and will be announced next week (Good and bad). That will hopefully mean we get some comment on our financial position and the points deduction. I do not know how much Ruud is due to pocket but I would be tempted to make him see his contract out,.provided those in the know are convinced he is on the right track and players still with him. If he is going we surely want to avoid paying compensation. I personally do not like what I have seen but if he stays and messes up further his reputation will be on the floor so it is in his interest to at least stabilise us. It is a shame how things have turned out. We have been through tough times before. This time at least we have the most brilliant memories to see us through.

Even vultures have standards. 

 

I think it's more likely that players are still here because no one wants them, including us. 

murphy

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1 minute ago, suffolk fox said:

Seriously.  Or are you on a wind up?  Not any managerial experience at all.  None, zadder, Zip.  We need stability, we already have owners that don't know how to run or sort out finances at our football club the last thing we need is an inexperienced unknown manager.  Afterall ex players don't make good managers.  Rooney, Lampard, Shilton, Adams top name but a few.

Van Nistelrooy, to name another. 

Claudio Fannieri

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3 minutes ago, suffolk fox said:

Seriously.  Or are you on a wind up?  Not any managerial experience at all.  None, zadder, Zip.  We need stability, we already have owners that don't know how to run or sort out finances at our football club the last thing we need is an inexperienced unknown manager.  Afterall ex players don't make good managers.  Rooney, Lampard, Shilton, Adams top name but a few.

No I ain’t on a wind up, I am asking how you know he won’t make a good manager and truth is you don’t know. Oh and just for context 95% of managers are ex players so a few manage the transition. Pep went straight into Barcelona and smashed it, others have failed, truth is as I said in my initial post, nobody knows!!! 

moore_94

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29 minutes ago, suffolk fox said:

Seriously. have a word.  Andy King maybe a nice bloke etc and was more than a decent midfielder for us.  However, a manager he is not.  Where on earth has all this come from?  He has only been a coach for a few weeks and still learning at that too.  Considering him for a managerial post is quite frankly laughable.

He has actually been coaching for 3 years

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