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Posted
2 minutes ago, Phenom said:

Being nice and likeable doesn’t mean you can’t make tough or unpopular decisions.

It doesn't - you can of course be nice and likeable but still have enough of an 'edge' to make difficult decisions. I'm just not convinced King has that edge. 

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Posted (edited)
15 minutes ago, volpeazzurro said:

So what is it about Danny Rohl in comparison that makes him such a hit in comparison in some people's eyes?

 

He's had 5 minutes with a poor Sheffield Wednesday side and done an okayish job. His playing career is nothing to shout about. He is in some people's eyes German therefore foreign and glamorous but is that it, am I missing something? 

 

In comparison, King has experience as a player in different levels of the English league and is a qualified coach. Yes, Rohl has had 10 minutes as a manager and Kingy hasn't, is that absolutely it? Hardly Jurgen Klopp is he!

 

So what is it about Sean Dyche in comparison that makes him such a hit in comparison in some people's eyes?

same thing can be said

 

if you think Rohl has done an okayish job at Weds, then it shows you havent see the mess they are in and the squad theyve had, says it all really with your comments, 

 

being a player and playing at different levels frankly doesnt be F all in the grand scheme of it, look at Jose, did he have a professional footballing career?

and saying stuff like 10 mins as a manager, Rohl has worked his way up through many roles within a club, im pretty sure he was a video analysis at one point too, hes worked under the likes of Hansi Flick etc

its comments without fully looking at what hes done and had deal with at Weds

 

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Posted
3 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said:

It doesn't - you can of course be nice and likeable but still have enough of an 'edge' to make difficult decisions. I'm just not convinced King has that edge. 

He’s at least smarter than the average footballer.  Definitely think the game has changed and being tough is no longer a requirement.  Unfortunately our squad has been taking liberties recently and definitely needs a firm presence to get things back in line. 
 

 

Posted
20 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said:

He may turn out to be a fine coach but he's not a manager. He's widely regarded as a very nice and likeable bloke, but to be an effective manager you need to be ruthless and thick-skinned enough to make unpopular decisions. I just don't think he's the type for that kind of role.

A refereeing acquaintance of mine has dealt with King when he was coach at Bristol City.

Im not going to say the exact words he used to desribe his encounters but he suggests King has a surprising personality and wasn't afraid to speak his mind.

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Posted (edited)

Those questioning Rohls credentials should look at O’Neil, Pearson, Enzo and Little who hadn’t done a great deal before joining us but their reputation was enhanced after being with us. 

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Posted
Just now, GlenParvaFox said:

A refereeing acquaintance of mine has dealt with King when he was coach at Bristol City.

Im not going to say the exact words he used to desribe his encounters but he suggests King has a surprising personality and wasn't afraid to speak his mind.

Good to hear. If I'm wrong and he does indeed have the character as well as coaching ability to be a manager, good luck to him - I wish him all the best.

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4 minutes ago, FrankieADZ said:

So what is it about Sean Dyche in comparison that makes him such a hit in comparison in some people's eyes?

same thing can be said

 

if you think Rohl has done an okayish job at Weds, then it shows you havent see the mess they are in and the squad theyve had, says it all really with your comments, 

 

being a player and playing at different levels frankly doesnt be F all in the grand scheme of it, look at Jose, did he have a professional footballing career?

and saying stuff like 10 mins as a manager, Rohl has worked his way up through many roles within a club, im pretty sure he was a video analysis at one point too, hes worked under the likes of Hansi Flick etc

its comments without fully looking at what hes done and had deal with at Weds

 

It will be interesting if we get Rohl to see who is the better manager - him or Will Still.  Both similar as started off as video analysists and worked their way up

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Posted
2 hours ago, FrankieADZ said:

So what is it about Sean Dyche in comparison that makes him such a hit in comparison in some people's eyes?

same thing can be said

 

if you think Rohl has done an okayish job at Weds, then it shows you havent see the mess they are in and the squad theyve had, says it all really with your comments, 

 

being a player and playing at different levels frankly doesnt be F all in the grand scheme of it, look at Jose, did he have a professional footballing career?

and saying stuff like 10 mins as a manager, Rohl has worked his way up through many roles within a club, im pretty sure he was a video analysis at one point too, hes worked under the likes of Hansi Flick etc

its comments without fully looking at what hes done and had deal with at Weds

 

Where does Dyche come into that equation, why bring him into it?

 

I'm fully aware being a great player does necessarily make a great manager, but the fact remains, Rohl still hasn't done anything startling. Neither does working under Hansi Flick mean anything either, using your own analogy, how many ex Manchester United players have succeeded or failed just because they worked or played under Sir Alex Ferguson? More have failed I'd suggest so that means bugger all too. How's Ruud getting on?

Posted

Where’s the ‘Next Director of Football’ thread?
 

‘Cos until we get a competent one, it really doesn’t matter much who’s the next patsy in the manager’s seat

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Posted
9 minutes ago, Steve Earle said:

Where’s the ‘Next Director of Football’ thread?
 

‘Cos until we get a competent one, it really doesn’t matter much who’s the next patsy in the manager’s seat

Rudkin has been DoF since 2014. During that time we won the PL, the FA Cup and the Championship. I’m not saying any of those things were because of him, but clearly we can sometimes be successful in spite of him.

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Posted
20 minutes ago, Steve Earle said:

Where’s the ‘Next Director of Football’ thread?
 

‘Cos until we get a competent one, it really doesn’t matter much who’s the next patsy in the manager’s seat

Like Enzo? 

Posted
21 minutes ago, Steve Earle said:

Where’s the ‘Next Director of Football’ thread?
 

‘Cos until we get a competent one, it really doesn’t matter much who’s the next patsy in the manager’s seat

Should be Paul Mitchell. 

Posted (edited)
18 minutes ago, FoxinNotts said:

I would genuinely pay good money to chin Rudkin

Set up a go fund me page for the bail out cost. We'll all contribute, I'm sure 

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