What’s the best plan for our squad next season?

[Haywood_6]

Look for bargains or young players with something to prove, rather than overspending on high wages maybe?

[Pita]

They way they have performed this season a massive clear our of team and management 

[Fox92]

Need a rebuild but also need a manager to do it. We were lucky before that Pearson was the type of manager to clear out and build. We need a manager like that.

[kingfox]

Think we’ll be inevitably stuck with a few senior players whether we like it or not, can see the likes of Vestergaard, Coady, Winks, Reid and Ayew all sticking around. 
 

But if we can get the likes of Faes, Kristiansen, Daka and Soumare out the door, it will be a start I suppose. 
 

Keeping at least one of Hermansen, El Khannouss, Fatawu will also be extremely important. 
 

And hopefully Nelson and Alves in particular get consistent game time. 

[Gamble92]

It will be a mix of both. One thing is for sure - whatever we do we should absolutely win the league. Don't be taken in by this attitude of some on here that everything has to end with us plummeting further down the pyramid just because of how shit Rudkin is. 

 

The standard of the Championship is atrocious and we are a level above anything in that division. Even with Rudkin we can get out again at the first time of asking. That doesn't paper over any cracks though and I hope we have a far worse reaction to relegation than we did last time. 

 

In reality relegation didn't clear out nearly as much as we needed last time. This time I think it will and I don't see that as a negative. Soumare, Faes etc can just **** off. This will probably be the first summer in 5+ years where we have a genuine clean slate and room to manoeuvre. If it's more of the same from Rudkin we will just become a yo-yo club for the foreseeable but I don't see it being any worse than that. 

[Ealing Fox]

7 minutes ago, Gamble92 said:

It will be a mix of both. One thing is for sure - whatever we do we should absolutely win the league. Don't be taken in by this attitude of some on here that everything has to end with us plummeting further down the pyramid just because of how shit Rudkin is. 

 

The standard of the Championship is atrocious and we are a level above anything in that division. Even with Rudkin we can get out again at the first time of asking. That doesn't paper over any cracks though and I hope we have a far worse reaction to relegation than we did last time. 

 

In reality relegation didn't clear out nearly as much as we needed last time. This time I think it will and I don't see that as a negative. Soumare, Faes etc can just **** off. This will probably be the first summer in 5+ years where we have a genuine clean slate and room to manoeuvre. If it's more of the same from Rudkin we will just become a yo-yo club for the foreseeable but I don't see it being any worse than that. 

100%... just remember how we looked against QPR back in January when QPR were broadly mid-table. Of course it was a cup game but surely it's an indicator that we are a heck of a lot stronger than most in the Championship

[Nods]

The point is moot as the reality is we will get rid of what we can and we'll be left with what we can't. 

 

Unfortunately Vardy, who could still do a job in certain games if used as part of the squad, will likely be one senior player to go for the simple reason that his contract is up and it's our biggest salary.

 

The likes of Ayew and BDCR, though? Who's paying a fee for them? We're stuck with them and we just have to hope they can offer more than they have in the Prem.

[Leicesterpool]

Youth only way forward even if it means spending two or three seasons in the championship.

[Sol thewall Bamba]

The more of these dossers we can get out the better. No one is off limits.

[Skidmark]

Huge rebuild needed. 

 

Lets build something we're proud of rather than seeing Jordan Ayew's miserable face. 

[Nolucklcfc]

Absolutely need to drain the swamp. They showed their true colours this season. 

[slymunn]

Out of the current 'first team' I think we may be left with something like this.

Stolarczyk    

Ricardo/Coulibaly

Souttar/Vesty/Coady

Okoli/Nelson   

Thomas/Justin

Skipp/Choudhury

Winks

Mavididi/McAteer    

El Khannouss 

Fatawu/ BDR

Ayew/Daka
 

I would like another three of four of these to leave, plus Okoli & El Khannouss probably will as well.
I haven't included the younger lads like Alves, Evans, Baybrooke but I would like them to be involved next season.

 

That would leave us space to bring in another 5 or 6 signings like we did in the championship last time.

Edited 27 March by slymunn
Added more chit chat

[Fox92]

2 hours ago, Gamble92 said:

It will be a mix of both. One thing is for sure - whatever we do we should absolutely win the league. Don't be taken in by this attitude of some on here that everything has to end with us plummeting further down the pyramid just because of how shit Rudkin is. 

 

The standard of the Championship is atrocious and we are a level above anything in that division. Even with Rudkin we can get out again at the first time of asking. That doesn't paper over any cracks though and I hope we have a far worse reaction to relegation than we did last time. 

 

In reality relegation didn't clear out nearly as much as we needed last time. This time I think it will and I don't see that as a negative. Soumare, Faes etc can just **** off. This will probably be the first summer in 5+ years where we have a genuine clean slate and room to manoeuvre. If it's more of the same from Rudkin we will just become a yo-yo club for the foreseeable but I don't see it being any worse than that. 

Totally. I don't think people realise how bad the quality is. Granted, clubs around the bottom have no money and it's tough because sides like us get relegated with huge budgets but you look at Sheffield United who are going for promotion and they're far from outstanding.

[Guy]

5 minutes ago, Fox92 said:

Totally. I don't think people realise how bad the quality is. Granted, clubs around the bottom have no money and it's tough because sides like us get relegated with huge budgets but you look at Sheffield United who are going for promotion and they're far from outstanding.

Yes, while I agee that we will be no lower than say 6th come the end of next season in the Championship (and we won't "do a Luton"), then I don' think there's any guarantee at all that we will "storm it" again like last season under Enzo, in spite of selling existing players, parachute payments, etc! There's the threat of PSR related points deduction too of course while I suppose the QPR yardstick in the FA Cup is a false one (played out in dense fog that day too!) but with the players we may be able to bring in re a club our size in the Championship to (hopefully) improve matters then we certainly shouldn't be worried about League One possibility!

[Spudulike]

Why would any of them want to leave? 

 

We only hold the cards for Ward and Vardy.

[Bob Weasel Fox]

Would get rid of the whole lot if possible 

 

let downs 

 

don't fight for the shirt

 

dont earn the obscene wages

[AKCJ]

Sell literally everyone that doesn't want to be here or only wants to be here because of the pay that they wouldn't get a similar club.

Edited 28 March by AKCJ

[Gazza M]

The high earners who have proven crap at Prem level need to go. Even if we have to pay them a golden handshake to go so a pay cut elsewhere is acceptable to them. Hermansen sale should cover it. 

 

Vesty

Faes

Soumare

Kristiansen

Coady

Daka

Ayew

BDR. 

 

Clear the decks and start again. 

 

[cityfanlee23]

Went for clear out, but I am assuming that would give us breathing room to spend, if getting rid of players like Ayew/BDCR (somehow) allows us to spend a few million or loan a young, hungry winger with a buy option i'm all for it, if clearing out those players/wages still puts us in a position where we have to hunt around for free agents to replace them then we might aswell keep. 



CONTEXT: 
Vardy - Club legend, but his wages are still too high at championship level for a club that wants to have a complete reset, he would be amazing to have around the club for his replacement as a mentor, but at the level of the Championship he would still undoubtedly be the main striker over a young, hungry replacement. I can just see him getting 30+ games again next year and us signing a "replacement" who sits on the bench, unless he's willing to accept a massive massive pay cut (more than 50%) and accept low playing time like Morgan did, it's time to move on, if he's still going to want regular playing time it's just kicking the can down the road imo. 

Ndidi - Would love to keep but he simply doesn't deserve to go down with us again, move on for his career and wish him well, if he chose to stay he goes straight into the 11. 
Ayew/BDCR - The step down in level is massive, these 2 are unlikely to have many suiters, we might get stuck with them unless the price makes sense, ideally I'd like to terminate both and take the hit but not sure we can afford it, if I had to keep one it would be Ayew.
Kristiansen - Sellable asset and I think Justin/Thomas are capable of doing a solid job for us in the championship, Kristiansen has made a LOT of mistakes this season, Thomas has looked less of a bomb scare imo, but if Kristiansen was determined to stay he's going to be good enough for the championship comfortably. 
Bilal - I think with some of his performances in the last 10 games or so and how we are doing as a team, I don't think Bilal will have a huge amount of wiggle room to properly force a sale somewhere worth going to unless it's in Europe, I think we have a strong hand to keep him and promise to build around him.
Mcateer - Sell if price is right, if not keep, did well in the first half of last season at this level but tailed off with the rest of the squad during the slump. 


Players not included in the tier list:
Alves - Keep and build around
Monga - Promise game time and a squad built to help him
Nelson - Keep and build around
Evans - Keep and Build around
Souttar - Not sold on him, give him a pre season and decide to loan or give minutes, seems comfortable in Championship so might be worth keeping. 

Core squad for next season (capable of top 4 imo) 

[Dan]

It's complete pie in the sky because it will never happen with this lot, but I'd go for a nuclear overhaul. I really do think clubs are capable of doing this but ours absolutely aren't - they're generally just bad at physically getting things done.

 

Within reason you probably have to keep a few of them but I'd allow anyone who wanted to to go (and I would generally implement this within reason).

 

I'd happily have about 15-20 out, about 10-13 in and promoted a few youth players to the squad. They don't have to come in and start every week. Alves being a bit part player is absolutely no issue for me. If he becomes more key then great. Maresca had no qualms about throwing in McAteer and Wanya Marcal early doors, which impressed me. There's a bit of an expectation with these academy players that they have to become your talisman or star player. If Alves and Braybrooke became our 19th and 20th best players next season, that's absolutely fine. It beats what we usually do - pay millions to achieve this.

 

I'm not entirely against signing older players but it's a bit of a luxury and we don't really have that in our financial situation. Lay the foundations, buy generally younger players, almost irrelevant where they're from but make sure they're decent value for money, low risk and high upside. Similar to what Sunderland have done. Look to the lower leagues of England. Look to Scotland, France, Belgium etc... anywhere basically. There is value out there.

 

More than anything - adopt a policy at this club and stick to it for a number of years. This policy is to assess what a player is likely to offer in terms of squad contribution and don't pay a fee that goes over what you expect of them. Skipp for example at the price we paid should be virtually our best player. We'd have been no worse buying someone from Slovenia for about £2mil for what he's ended up contributing.

 

Get picky about squad value and do this until we're really able to afford these luxuries. In short - do the total opposite to this season in every way.

[Tuna]

We need to decide on a manager first!

[Bourbon Fox]

Just give the whole thing to Bielsa and let him be DoF, Sporting Director, first team manager and Head of Recruitment 

[Skidmark]

I'd go. 

 

Stolarczyk

 

Coulibaly

Okoli

Nelson

Justin

 

Mavididi

Winks

Skipp

Fatawu

 

Alves/Bilal (If stays)

 

New Striker. 

 

[slymunn]

15 minutes ago, Dan said:

Skipp for example at the price we paid should be virtually our best player. We'd have been no worse buying someone from Slovenia for about £2mil for what he's ended up contributing.

Ao Takanka who we was linked with last season went to Leeds for £3 million, is a perfect example.

[HesNotGudjonsonn2]

Am I the only one that thinks Vardy will sign on for another season?