Where does this stop.

[honeybradger]

Our fans are referencing Sheffield United but what about Luton? 

[James_lcfc]

We are an absolute joke at the moment, but there's no chance we're heading down to League One anytime soon!

[RYM]

48 minutes ago, Fox92 said:

Don't know why people laugh at this. Last time we went down I think I was one of few people who said we'd win the league. A lot of people then were posting about relegation to League 1.

 

The quality of the Championship is awful. Sheffield United are nothing special yet in contention with winning the league. Some of the teams towards the lower end of the table have no budget and find it difficult to compete.

When we went down last time we had a premier league squad with decent players. Probably Top Half of the league players. This lot are nowhere near. I’m all for a bit of optimism but this lot don’t have the mentality, ability or desire to bounce back up. 

It’s a real sad state of affairs.

[Fox92]

29 minutes ago, FosseSpark said:

youre forgetting we havent registered even an 'expected goal' let alone a goal in over 12 hrs of premier league football. when lower half champ teams have been dumping premier league teams out of the cup....

we arent immune to the bottom half of the championship.

Cup games are one off games. But it's different over the course of a season. 9 times out of 10 Liverpool do not lose to Plymouth. Cup upsets have always happened, and continue to, but it doesn't necessarily mean the winner of that tie is better than the top flight team they knocked out.

 

Of course we are not immune to bottom half. We are not immune to relegation. But neither will happen in my opinion.

[Sol thewall Bamba]

I don't think we'll get relegated again next season but I think there's a very good chance we finish lower than when King Power bought us. Then the arc is complete and they can fvck off.

[Fox92]

5 minutes ago, RYM said:

When we went down last time we had a premier league squad with decent players. Probably Top Half of the league players. This lot are nowhere near. I’m all for a bit of optimism but this lot don’t have the mentality, ability or desire to bounce back up. 

It’s a real sad state of affairs.

We lost those players so in the Championship did not have them. Aside from KDH we basically have the same squad now as we did when we last went down. Players that look awful in the Premier League looked decent in the Championship and that will happen again when they stay. I'm not going to put "if they stay" because we're stuck with them. Granted we may lose the goalkeeper which would be a big blow.

Edited 3 April by Fox92

[CosbehFox]

7 minutes ago, honeybradger said:

Our fans are referencing Sheffield United but what about Luton? 

Because Luton had six months of good form and found themselves in the PL. Went on to buy players from the likes of Rotherham and any quality left this summer. 

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

One of the things that surprised me the most last night was that I only noticed 1 or 2 rounds of “Rudkin out” from the lads in the lower tier. I was in the upper tier so may have not heard it all, but have we become so ground down and apathetic that we can’t be arsed calling for change? Instead of “Rudkin out” it should be “King Power out”, and yet I have never heard that said by any significant number of fans home or away.

 

Believe it or not, there were a fair few clapping the players last night as well 🤣 

[CosbehFox]

47 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

When King Power leave. Every single issue stems from their inaction or incompetence.

It's funny when your business isn't given things, you actually have to work at it 

[Fox92]

9 minutes ago, honeybradger said:

Our fans are referencing Sheffield United but what about Luton? 

Our squad is more in line with Sheffield United's than Luton's.

 

Luton lost a couple of their better players this summer and replaced them with lower league players.

[FrankieADZ]

1 hour ago, Fox92 said:

We won't get relegated to League One. The lower half of the Championship is horrific.

 

Puel should not be named alongside Taylor either. While Puel's style was boring, he never had us in a relegation battle in fact steered us away from that. I'd have him here now.

and a good number of the signings in the Puel "era" where really good ones for us too, many forget that

 

I'd have Puel back over RVN in a heartbeat if im honest

[grobyfox1990]

It ends with the champions league final in Doha in 5 years time. Then another few years down cycle including a defeat to Coalville in the FA cup 4th round qualifier and all the ticket office shambles crowd proclaiming they've been non league fans since day 1. Then back up and winning the expanded 256 hybrid club/country world cup in Yemen in 2042. 

[Leicester_Loyal]

8 minutes ago, Wasyls Pec Deck said:

One of the things that surprised me the most last night was that I only noticed 1 or 2 rounds of “Rudkin out” from the lads in the lower tier. I was in the upper tier so may have not heard it all, but have we become so ground down and apathetic that we can’t be arsed calling for change? Instead of “Rudkin out” it should be “King Power out”, and yet I have never heard that said by any significant number of fans home or away.

 

Believe it or not, there were a fair few clapping the players last night as well 🤣 

You're right, 2 rounds of it I think, with about 30-50 people joining in, if that.

 

But the people who attended last night aren't gonna be the ones chanting for Rudkin, Top or KP out, those people aren't attending away games any longer IMO (with the odd exception)

[oxtonfox]

I am not sure where it does stop to be honest. One thought though, does anyone think Ruud is trying deliberately and not subtly to get sacked? To walk away as soon as possible from this hell show that he has made considerably worse in his time? 

 

Picking the same toothless team and instilling them with no hope or fight.

Breaking losing and goalless records in over a century. 

Ignoring the fans after games. 

Talking insane rollocks to the press. 

 

 

[Sol thewall Bamba]

21 minutes ago, CosbehFox said:

It's funny when your business isn't given things, you actually have to work at it 

His hands are tied!

[Happy Fox]

When King Power sell the club that day cannot come soon enough.

[Spudulike]

9 hours ago, foxile5 said:

I've been following this club for longer than some members have been alive. 

 

I've seen us ebb and flow naturally. We've been bad - Pleat, Taylor, and to a lesser extent Puel - but I've also seen the good - Pearson, Ranners, and O'Niell.

 

I've never looked at it and wondered where this actually ends. 

 

Recently, the club has me wondering where this actually ends. The club under Pleat and Taylor had a certain stopping point. We knew that the bones of the club were solid under Pleat. We knew that Taylor was going to go and we had a core. We knew under Puel that there was success in the future. 

 

Where the **** is this club going?

 

I would bet money on League One in our immediate future. I would also suggest that financial ruin is on the horizon. 

 

Where does this end for Leicester City in your eyes.

I'll raise you a McLintock to add to your list. Those around at that time will most likely remember it as the worst ever top tier season before this one. It was stopped by sacking the manager and bringing in a new one with a different approach and complete change of mindset. Our club was spiralling out of control and likely to drop through the leagues like others (Wolves, Villa) until Big Jock rolled up.

 

A new management/coaching set up is where it stops, at least in the short term.

[honeybradger]

25 minutes ago, Fox92 said:

Our squad is more in line with Sheffield United's than Luton's.

 

Luton lost a couple of their better players this summer and replaced them with lower league players.

We lose our best players all the time and replace them with worse but more experienced players!

 

It's literally a staple of this crappy ownership that every time something goes wrong it's because the squad is too young, lacks leadership etc and they go out and buy experienced 'leaders' who had to take the step down because they're not good enough.

 

I can definitely see us going for 'championship ready' players in the summer.

[Pliskin]

When King Power sell up. 

[ElusiveEd]

In answer to the original question......

 

Pretty soon for me I'm afraid. 

 

I used to move hell and high water to make it to games but they've drained my enthusiasm to such an extent nearly every part of me wants to throw the towel in and, as each week and game comes and goes, the resistance to do so gets weaker.

[accessory]

1 hour ago, Wasyls Pec Deck said:

Instead of “Rudkin out” it should be “King Power out”, and yet I have never heard that said by any significant number of fans home or away.

 

Believe it or not, there were a fair few clapping the players last night as well 🤣

Which is because, outside the S*n-reading, GB News-watching, echo-chamber-dwelling section of the fanbase, most Foxes know that without King Power, there would have probably no return to Premier League football, let alone a title, an FA Cup and several seasons of European football.

 

Aiyawatt's also covered losses in recent seasons (and is still doing so now), the scale of which would have seen previous owners look seriously at calling in liquidators.

 

Maybe he needs to look a little more closely at how and why those losses occurred. Indulging a weak manager (Rodgers), reliance on a woefully over-promoted academy coach (Rudkin) and a talented but fragile squad, together with building a mega-expensive vanity project at Seagrave, certainly didn't help.

 

But the idea of him walking away any time soon, after 15 years in charge and everything that's happened during that time, is pure jingoist fantasy.

Edited 3 April by accessory
Correcting omissions

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

33 minutes ago, accessory said:

Which is because, outside the S*n-reading, GB News-watching, echo-chamber-dwelling section of the fanbase, most Foxes know that without King Power, there would have probably no return to Premier League football, let alone a title, an FA Cup and several seasons of European football.

 

Aiyawatt's also covered losses in recent seasons (and is still doing so now), the scale of which would have seen previous owners look seriously at calling in liquidators.

 

Maybe he needs to look a little more closely at how and why those losses occurred. Indulging a weak manager (Rodgers), reliance on a woefully over-promoted academy coach (Rudkin) and a talented but fragile squad, together with building a mega-expensive vanity project at Seagrave, certainly didn't help.

 

But the idea of him walking away any time soon, after 15 years in charge and everything that's happened during that time, is pure jingoist fantasy.

His father was brilliant. He has let his father’s good work unravel to this point. Look at the downward spiral since his father died - yes we won the cup but a lot of us could see it beginning to unravel at that point (good players running down contacts etc). 
 

You say he needs to look at those he employs - but surely we have got to the point where we need to seriously question the person responsible for employing these people (ie Top). It’s totally rotten and needs a complete refresh. 
 

Btw, if you’re accusing me of being of little intelligence, reading The Sun, watching GB news etc and being small minded… without divulging who I am and what I do for a living you couldn’t be more wrong!

Edited 3 April by Wasyls Pec Deck

[Chrysalis]

2 hours ago, Fox92 said:

We won't get relegated to League One. The lower half of the Championship is horrific.

 

Puel should not be named alongside Taylor either. While Puel's style was boring, he never had us in a relegation battle in fact steered us away from that. I'd have him here now.

Thats what Luton thought?  They got 26 points and look where they are now, we will be lucky to make 20, and forgotten how to score.

Edited 3 April by Chrysalis

[honeybradger]

36 minutes ago, accessory said:

Which is because, outside the S*n-reading, GB News-watching, echo-chamber-dwelling section of the fanbase, most Foxes know that without King Power, there would have probably no return to Premier League football, let alone a title, an FA Cup and several seasons of European football.

 

Aiyawatt's also covered losses in recent seasons (and is still doing so now), the scale of which would have seen previous owners look seriously at calling in liquidators.

 

Maybe he needs to look a little more closely at how and why those losses occurred. Indulging a weak manager (Rodgers), reliance on a woefully over-promoted academy coach (Rudkin) and a talented but fragile squad, together with building a mega-expensive vanity project at Seagrave, certainly didn't help.

 

But the idea of him walking away any time soon, after 15 years in charge and everything that's happened during that time, is pure jingoist fantasy.

We have taken out large loans from a predatory bank against the next 10 years of Premier League income, which we will not be competing in regularly.

 

He also hasn't 'covered off our losses' he has written off some of our debts owed to King Power (i.e. himself) and converted it into equity i.e. the club is now worth more due to less debt so his ownership of the club is worth more should he be looking to sell.

 

It's not unlikely that we sell Seagrave in the next few seasons and potentially have to go into administration due to being crippled by the loans and the dodgy sponsor going bust and not paying out.

Edited 3 April by honeybradger

[Les-TA-Jon]

11 hours ago, Tuna said:

Probably bounce back and win promotion next season.

I think it entirely depends on our summer. 

 

Last season's bounce back was almost entirely down to the (lucky?) appointment of Maresca. To have similar results we have to make a similarly good managerial appointment and have a great window of ins and outs. 

 

Also this time, the squad going down is worse and we have fewer saleable assets