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18 minutes ago, Vindaloo FOX said:

Matija Frigan to Hull I'm hearing,  we should be all over that.

I thought they had a transfer embargo?

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20 hours ago, Groby_Blue said:

F****t fan I work with is already worried. He said their form in the last month of the season was relegation form. 

 

He went to the Chelsea game and was really angry. He said they should have just gone for it becauase if they won, they could have gone up to 5th and if they lost, they would have still finished where they did anyway so had nothing to lose, but they sat back and let Chelsea play around them. 

 

I really do think they've peaked and will finish lower mid next season, especially if they replace Elanga and MGW with inferior players. 

I'm quite relaxed about them this season - last season was a massive chance spurned. Their fans won't realise this yet as they will make the mistake the majority make of assuming incremental upwards movement is inevitable. Those chances do not come around often though and they ultimately secured only Conference League football (of which they've even managed to luck it by bumping up a competition) and a semi final of the FA Cup. They had essentially our 2019/20 season with more margin for error and ultimately a worse team, and they have done the equivalent of selling Maddison and Barnes already.

 

I don't think they fumble on quite the level we do and go down but I can just see Marinakis thinking their drop off is a disgrace and Nuno being under pressure quite early on. I definitely think they've peaked.

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We desperately need some new players because right now we have a team of losers with a pretty bad mentality and that will rub off on the youngsters that we're trying to bring through.  

 

I beginning to think that we should just cancel the contracts (by mutual agreement this will cost obvs) of players with no resell value (ie no one wants to buy them) and who aren't going to play and just get their sorry asses out of the club.  That way we can fill some squad places and stop paying those wages.

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4 minutes ago, Grebfromgrebland said:

We desperately need some new players because right now we have a team of losers with a pretty bad mentality and that will rub off on the youngsters that we're trying to bring through.  

 

I beginning to think that we should just cancel the contracts (by mutual agreement this will cost obvs) of players with no resell value (ie no one wants to buy them) and who aren't going to play and just get their sorry asses out of the club.  That way we can fill some squad places and stop paying those wages.

Agreed. Cifuentes has a huge job on his hands.

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Just now, coolhandfox said:

I think he has a massive opportunity as well. 

For sure. I think we/he needs to quickly get sorted on who he wants and who he doesn't and tell them to find new clubs. Enzo did that and I think it helped us start well.

 

I think we're playing catch up, I'd tell Coady, Faes, Soumare, Reid, Justin, Ndidi and possibly a few others they have no futures here.

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6 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

For sure. I think we/he needs to quickly get sorted on who he wants and who he doesn't and tell them to find new clubs. Enzo did that and I think it helped us start well.

 

I think we're playing catch up, I'd tell Coady, Faes, Soumare, Reid, Justin, Ndidi and possibly a few others they have no futures here.

Wonder how many times they've been told that over the years only to be still stinking up the place.

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12 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

For sure. I think we/he needs to quickly get sorted on who he wants and who he doesn't and tell them to find new clubs. Enzo did that and I think it helped us start well.

 

I think we're playing catch up, I'd tell Coady, Faes, Soumare, Reid, Justin, Ndidi and possibly a few others they have no futures here.

Hopefully, we just need to bite the bullet! 

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3 hours ago, Bluearmyfox28 said:

Fatawu or Monga are going to have a field day.

The Leicester City way is putting Ayew against him for the entire match

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2 hours ago, Grebfromgrebland said:

 

I beginning to think that we should just cancel the contracts (by mutual agreement this will cost obvs) of players with no resell value (ie no one wants to buy them) and who aren't going to play and just get their sorry asses out of the club.  That way we can fill some squad places and stop paying those wages.

You could just loan them out.

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2 hours ago, Grebfromgrebland said:

We desperately need some new players because right now we have a team of losers with a pretty bad mentality and that will rub off on the youngsters that we're trying to bring through.  

 

I beginning to think that we should just cancel the contracts (by mutual agreement this will cost obvs) of players with no resell value (ie no one wants to buy them) and who aren't going to play and just get their sorry asses out of the club.  That way we can fill some squad places and stop paying those wages.

First thing they are going to want is their contract paying up in full, then they are going to want a sweetener to go.

 

They are holding all the cards!

 

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They don't need a sweetener if you've paid the contract. And if you do pay the contract, given we hold their registration we then hold the cards if they want to move. 

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21 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

First thing they are going to want is their contract paying up in full, then they are going to want a sweetener to go.

 

They are holding all the cards!

 

Contacts can end early by negotiating the amount. Happens quite a lot. 

 

Leaves the player free to get a new club and get paid and if they're lucky play some games.

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23 minutes ago, Grebfromgrebland said:

Contacts can end early by negotiating the amount. Happens quite a lot. 

 

Leaves the player free to get a new club and get paid and if they're lucky play some games.

Some don't give a crap about playing games.

 

You come to me going I want me gone, I'm going to make you pay though the nose to get rid of me, that's exactly what there agents will do.

 

They go, but on there terms, you will not save a penny on wages.

 

 

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Well the most they get is the remainder of their contract.  There's nothing in addition to that. No sweetener.  And like I say, we'd still hold their registration so we could basically pay them and prevent them going elsewhere.  So then comes a possible compromise.

Which again, is the loan market.  Someone will at least offer something, so there's no reason to pay up/cancel contracts when there will always be somebody willing to take them on, even if they only want to pay 20% of their wages.

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