coolhandfox Posted 14 October 2025 Posted 14 October 2025 (edited) More crap without any actual information. Edited 14 October 2025 by coolhandfox 2
Ric Flair Posted 14 October 2025 Posted 14 October 2025 30 minutes ago, 87fox said: Probably the only slightly new thing he said worth repeating for others is that he thinks we're likely to post further significant losses for 2024/25, and will be at risk of another charge for that. If that were to be the case, why didn't we sell anyone in June? 1
coolhandfox Posted 14 October 2025 Posted 14 October 2025 3 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: If that were to be the case, why didn't we sell anyone in June? 100% this.
ClaphamFox Posted 14 October 2025 Posted 14 October 2025 29 minutes ago, 87fox said: Probably the only slightly new thing he said worth repeating for others is that he thinks we're likely to post further significant losses for 2024/25, and will be at risk of another charge for that. He did say that, but shortly after that he said: "They're not in a great place financially, but they're not in a terrible one either. They simply have to box clever." Overall it was difficult to get a clear picture of what he actually believes to be the state of our finances. He didn't even seem certain about the fact that we've been charged for 23/24 (he said "my understanding is that they're potentially facing a charge"). It didn't clarify anything. 1
coolhandfox Posted 14 October 2025 Posted 14 October 2025 4 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said: He did say that, but shortly after that he said: "They're not in a great place financially, but they're not in a terrible one either. They simply have to box clever." Overall it was difficult to get a clear picture of what he actually believes to be the state of our finances. He didn't even seem certain about the fact that we've been charged for 23/24 (he said "my understanding is that they're potentially facing a charge"). It didn't clarify anything. Hardly insightful stuff. He's simply cover all bases so he can't be wrong. 1
Greg2607 Posted 14 October 2025 Posted 14 October 2025 39 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: If that were to be the case, why didn't we sell anyone in June? maybe we were THAT far beyond, that it wasn't worth it and they'd rather get square in the subsequent year?
ClaphamFox Posted 14 October 2025 Posted 14 October 2025 28 minutes ago, coolhandfox said: Hardly insightful stuff. He's simply cover all bases so he can't be wrong. Indeed. I was hoping he'd provide a bit of insight into our PSR situation, but he didn't seem to know much at all. 1
jayfox26 Posted 14 October 2025 Posted 14 October 2025 12 hours ago, grth2004 said: I can’t see how we go up with a Seven Point deduction. Wed be fighting to sneak into the playoff if we were lucky. How? If we continued our current form (I expect us to actually improve once Marti is fully settled with the squad) then we are currently averaging 1.77ppg which over a 46 game season is 81 points. Minus 7 and that's 74 points. Cov and Bristol C both made the playoffs on 69 and 68 points last season. Automatics could be a stretch unless we go on a huge winning run but I'd be amazed if we didn't make the play offs with a 7 point deduction. 2
Popular Post filbertway Posted 14 October 2025 Popular Post Posted 14 October 2025 https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6699541/2025/10/14/tony-bloom-brighton-interview-psr/ Good article in the athletic with Bloom. This comment will upset a few that think the world is against us but he's spot on. “We don’t want anyone to break the rules. Everyone knows what they are and in PSR it’s a three-year rolling amount you can lose of £105million that doesn’t include things like the academy, the women’s team and any infrastructure projects. It’s a huge amount of money. “There’s a lot of media talk about it not working because it forces clubs to sell homegrown players. That’s really false. You don’t have to sell homegrown players. You just need to organise your finances in a way that you are not at risk of going over the limit. That’s fallacious arguments, which I’ve heard quite a lot. It makes no sense whatsoever.” 9
urban.spaceman Posted 14 October 2025 Posted 14 October 2025 52 minutes ago, filbertway said: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6699541/2025/10/14/tony-bloom-brighton-interview-psr/ Good article in the athletic with Bloom. This comment will upset a few that think the world is against us but he's spot on. “We don’t want anyone to break the rules. Everyone knows what they are and in PSR it’s a three-year rolling amount you can lose of £105million that doesn’t include things like the academy, the women’s team and any infrastructure projects. It’s a huge amount of money. “There’s a lot of media talk about it not working because it forces clubs to sell homegrown players. That’s really false. You don’t have to sell homegrown players. You just need to organise your finances in a way that you are not at risk of going over the limit. That’s fallacious arguments, which I’ve heard quite a lot. It makes no sense whatsoever.” He's talking from Brighton's perspective which really isn't applicable to our own. His own argument is fallacious. 2
urban.spaceman Posted 14 October 2025 Posted 14 October 2025 PS, we're not getting a points deduction. 1
filbertway Posted 14 October 2025 Posted 14 October 2025 14 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said: He's talking from Brighton's perspective which really isn't applicable to our own. His own argument is fallacious. Just because he's actually been able to manage the clubs finances properly doesn't mean his argument is fallacious 3
WorcesterBlue Posted 14 October 2025 Posted 14 October 2025 18 hours ago, ClaphamFox said: He predicted seven points, which seems about right to me. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/clyzxmkrm84o#:~:text=Football finance expert Kieran Maguire,and sustainability rules (PSR). Why is it taking so long ? All everybody wants is clarity so we all know where we are.
Foxes1 Posted 14 October 2025 Posted 14 October 2025 Just now, WorcesterBlue said: Why is it taking so long ? All everybody wants is clarity so we all know where we are. Because they have us mixed up with Man City, so nobody knows how long it will take 1
Sol thewall Bamba Posted 14 October 2025 Posted 14 October 2025 5 hours ago, coolhandfox said: Hardly insightful stuff. He's simply cover all bases so he can't be wrong. He's probably still reeling from when he said one PL was in a very very bad spot and then the next day no one got charged. It's quite incredible that he's made himself some kind of oracle on this topic. 2
coolhandfox Posted 14 October 2025 Posted 14 October 2025 1 minute ago, Sol thewall Bamba said: He's probably still reeling from when he said one PL was in a very very bad spot and then the next day no one got charged. It's quite incredible that he's made himself some kind of oracle on this topic. Another one is Stefan Borson, talks total bollocks like its fact. 1
Gamble92 Posted 14 October 2025 Posted 14 October 2025 7 hours ago, coolhandfox said: More crap without any actual information. This would be a very fitting name for his podcast 2
Dahnsouff Posted 14 October 2025 Posted 14 October 2025 1 hour ago, urban.spaceman said: He's talking from Brighton's perspective which really isn't applicable to our own. His own argument is fallacious. There is no rope long enough to rescue you at this point.
urban.spaceman Posted 14 October 2025 Posted 14 October 2025 20 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said: There is no rope long enough to rescue you at this point. 1
Popular Post Finnegan Posted 14 October 2025 Popular Post Posted 14 October 2025 (edited) 3 hours ago, filbertway said: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6699541/2025/10/14/tony-bloom-brighton-interview-psr/ Good article in the athletic with Bloom. This comment will upset a few that think the world is against us but he's spot on. “We don’t want anyone to break the rules. Everyone knows what they are and in PSR it’s a three-year rolling amount you can lose of £105million that doesn’t include things like the academy, the women’s team and any infrastructure projects. It’s a huge amount of money. “There’s a lot of media talk about it not working because it forces clubs to sell homegrown players. That’s really false. You don’t have to sell homegrown players. You just need to organise your finances in a way that you are not at risk of going over the limit. That’s fallacious arguments, which I’ve heard quite a lot. It makes no sense whatsoever.” I'm sorry but no, **** off with that. Of course clubs aren't "forced" to sell anyone, academy players are otherwise, but if you make a set rules that make it more profitable to do so then clubs obviously will to get an edge. This is nothing to do with our specific situation, by the way, it's not about the world being against Leicester. But the way the rules around amortisation and players with zero book value work are very, very poorly thought out and actively promote selling the players your club developed first. Edited 14 October 2025 by Finnegan 9
Popular Post urban.spaceman Posted 14 October 2025 Popular Post Posted 14 October 2025 1 hour ago, filbertway said: Just because he's actually been able to manage the clubs finances properly doesn't mean his argument is fallacious He's been able to manage his club’s finances "properly" because their first four seasons in the PL they were an uncompetitive lower table side just surviving, during which the PSR rules were tightened and they were able to adapt; before a couple of really good seasons and a handful of huge sales to the Super League clubs. It's an entirely different context and set of circumstances to ours and comparing the two ignores our own circumstances such as where we were at the time PSR affected us - challenging for the Champions League places and in the high end of domestic and European competitions - the money we had spent, the contracts we were committed to and the long-term financial strategy that had been built around sustained success and growth. 5
Dahnsouff Posted 14 October 2025 Posted 14 October 2025 6 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said: He's been able to manage his club’s finances "properly" because their first four seasons in the PL they were an uncompetitive lower table side just surviving, during which the PSR rules were tightened and they were able to adapt; before a couple of really good seasons and a handful of huge sales to the Super League clubs. It's an entirely different context and set of circumstances to ours and comparing the two ignores our own circumstances such as where we were at the time PSR affected us - challenging for the Champions League places and in the high end of domestic and European competitions - the money we had spent, the contracts we were committed to and the long-term financial strategy that had been built around sustained success and growth. You can argue that we should not have had too, but our failure to adapt was why we ended us hamstringing ourselves. Yes, it would have meant reigning in our ambitions, or at least rescheduling them for the longer term, but we did fail to adapt. I realise you are not suggesting we are blameless, nor am I that the authorities do seek to ensure all eyes remain on the more globally desirable clubs, but I think there is enough blame to go around on all sides tbh. 1
jayfox26 Posted 14 October 2025 Posted 14 October 2025 7 hours ago, filbertway said: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6699541/2025/10/14/tony-bloom-brighton-interview-psr/ Good article in the athletic with Bloom. This comment will upset a few that think the world is against us but he's spot on. “We don’t want anyone to break the rules. Everyone knows what they are and in PSR it’s a three-year rolling amount you can lose of £105million that doesn’t include things like the academy, the women’s team and any infrastructure projects. It’s a huge amount of money. “There’s a lot of media talk about it not working because it forces clubs to sell homegrown players. That’s really false. You don’t have to sell homegrown players. You just need to organise your finances in a way that you are not at risk of going over the limit. That’s fallacious arguments, which I’ve heard quite a lot. It makes no sense whatsoever.” I think many feel that the world is against us because of the way the Premier league and EFL have continually hounded us for 3 years, failed to punish us because their own rules were a shower of shit and still continue to want to punish us? Have we fckd up and been run poorly? 100%. Have we tried to sort our finances and massively reduce our wage bill whilst also selling players? 100% We've tried to play by the rules and sort our finances legitimately whilst the likes of Man C and Chelsea get away with all sorts of dodgy stuff. No issue with us being punished if it's a level playing field across the board for everyone, which is clearly isn't. 3
Trav Le Bleu Posted 14 October 2025 Posted 14 October 2025 11 hours ago, coolhandfox said: Hardly insightful stuff. He's simply cover all bases so he can't be wrong. Like a fortune teller making vague predictions of stuff likely to happen in anyone's life. And he laughs as the gullible fools hang on his every word.
Trav Le Bleu Posted 14 October 2025 Posted 14 October 2025 The most annoying thing about this is... Do it or don't do it! Like if you've broken the speed limit, the police have to charge you within a time frame. They can't come after you 2 years later. Also, do it before a ball is kicked. This avoids the situation we seemed to have with Everton where they gave them a points deduction that just kept them out the relegation zone and felt a bit contrived. So little doggie... are you gonna bark all day? Or are you gonna bite?
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