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moore_94

Premier League has charged LCFC with an alleged breach of PSR

By moore_94, in Leicester City Forum

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KFS

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… because something I’ve learned in business is that the legal guy always trumps the finance guy. And their compensation is comparatively adjusted.

 

All Nick Di Marco aren’t we?

ClaphamFox

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11 minutes ago, KFS said:

… because something I’ve learned in business is that the legal guy always trumps the finance guy. And their compensation is comparatively adjusted.

 

All Nick Di Marco aren’t we?

Maguire is very good mates with Di Marco, so may know something about the what’s going on behind the scenes.

AjcW

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On 03/10/2025 at 06:34, Sly said:

So if the hearing starts in this quarter, with Whelan gone, does that mean Top will have to get involved? Or are we thinking it’s happened and we already know the outcome? Pending announcement? 

He’s been in London since last Wednesday so could well be in progress. 

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Jimmy

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53 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said:

Maguire is very good mates with Di Marco, so may know something about the what’s going on behind the scenes.

I very much doubt a Lawyer is risking his career by leaking stories.

 

I'm pretty sure Maguire was one of those peddling the "biggest points deduction in history" last season

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Bourbon Fox

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On 02/10/2025 at 08:29, TheGoldenGod said:

JP is saying the hearing will begin in the next weeks and there won't be a conclusion until next year! To be honest I thought it was already with the independent commission so looks like this will drag on into Jan/Feb time!

Perfect timing for a real kick in the bollocks.

 

At least we're building a squad that don't think they're too good for us. Sell Fatawu, try to keep Monga but if we sell them both it should fund us for some solid years of mediocrity oh god oh god

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Corky

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1 hour ago, AjcW said:

He’s been in London since last Wednesday so could well be in progress. 

Didn't Percy say it was starting in November?

jayfox26

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28 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said:

He predicted seven points, which seems about right to me.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/clyzxmkrm84o#:~:text=Football finance expert Kieran Maguire,and sustainability rules (PSR).

Seven points and we still go up in my opinion. We just need it sorting and hopefully the powers that be learn from the mistakes and we don't fall foul again. We've had psr/points deductions etc hanging over us for 3 year and it's boring now and just needs sorting and moving on.

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fox_favourite

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Anything below 9 and it's nothing, we can make that up. Anything above 10pts will be tough. I think the EFL want to give us the absolute maximum, which if does happen, then I expect us to challenge it.

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6 minutes ago, jayfox26 said:

Seven points and we still go up in my opinion. We just need it sorting and hopefully the powers that be learn from the mistakes and we don't fall foul again. We've had psr/points deductions etc hanging over us for 3 year and it's boring now and just needs sorting and moving on.

I can’t see how we go up with a Seven Point deduction. Wed be fighting to sneak into the playoff if we were lucky. 

hackneyfox

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2 minutes ago, grth2004 said:

I can’t see how we go up with a Seven Point deduction. Wed be fighting to sneak into the playoff if we were lucky. 

How many games have we played?

grth2004

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44 minutes ago, hackneyfox said:

How many games have we played?

If you take 7 points off the season we went up then we would be in the playoffs and we were a lot better than we are now. 

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6 minutes ago, grth2004 said:

If you take 7 points off the season we went up then we would be in the playoffs and we were a lot better than we are now. 

So were the other teams near us.

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Chrysalis

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On 26/09/2025 at 16:40, davieG said:

Premier League wants minimum six-point penalty for serious breach of planned spending rules

 

Premier League wants minimum six-point penalty for serious breach of planned spending rules

 

The Premier League is planning to introduce a minimum sanction of a six-point deduction for serious breaches of the new spending regulations it wants in place next season. Under draft proposals for the squad-cost ratio (SCR) system shared with clubs at their shareholders’ meeting this week, a fixed tariff for overspending would be introduced for the first time.

Related: Premier League: 10 things to look out for this weekend

A club guilty of breaching SCR by 30% would be docked six points. Extra points could be deducted on a sliding scale for more serious breaches of the spending cap, which would restrict spending on transfers, player wages and agent fees to 85% of revenue. Smaller breaches would be punished by a financial levy tied to the percentage of the overspend. The Premier League declined to comment.

The clubs have been debating for 18 months replacing profitability and sustainability rules (PSR), which allow a maximum £105m loss over a rolling three-year period, and much of this week’s meeting was spent discussing potential sanctions. The league informed clubs there would be no fines for minor breaches during the first year of SCR to give them time to adjust but that the points-deduction threat would be in place to guard against egregious overspending.

SCR would operate in real time rather than retrospectively, enabling the league to monitor spending during the season and apply sanctions if necessary. The retrospective application of PSR rules has created problems for the league and tension between clubs.

Everton were found guilty of breaching PSR rules for the period ending with the 2021-22 season but were not docked points until November 2023. Had the eventual six-point penalty been applied in the 2021-22 season, Everton would have been relegated and Burnley would have stayed up.

Burnley are involved in an arbitration hearing with Everton, having filed a claim for £50m in compensation. Everton have paid a much smaller amount in compensation to Leeds, who lost out on prize money after finishing one place behind them, in a dispute settled out of court.

Fixed tariffs would also bring greater clarity. Nottingham Forest were given a four-point penalty in March 2024 despite having overspent by more than Everton.

The clubs will discuss the issue again at their next shareholders’ meeting in November, when the league wants a vote. As a result of qualifying for Europe, nine clubs are committed to a system of SCR operated by Uefa, which caps player spending at 70% of revenue.

The league plans to reduce its limit to 70% over the next three years, and there is cautious optimism among the executive that it will be approved. A resolution in November would give clubs clarity before the January transfer window regarding which rules will be in place next season. If the vote is not carried, PSR will continue for 2026-27.

There remains less confidence at the league that a second set of new spending rules known as top-to-bottom anchoring, which would cap each club’s spending at about five times the bottom side’s central income from TV revenue, shared commercial payments and prize money, will get the 14 votes needed to be introduced.

No club currently exceeds the five-times multiple, which if in operation this season would have been pegged to Southampton’s 2024-25 Premier League income of £109.2m, but many of the bigger teams would like the flexibility to do so.

More of the nonsensical based on revenue, ok for Arsenal, Pool and co to spend in the billions, but if someone from the midlands spends a fraction of that they breach the rules.

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TheGoldenGod

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10 hours ago, grth2004 said:

I can’t see how we go up with a Seven Point deduction. Wed be fighting to sneak into the playoff if we were lucky. 

This is a strange take imo! 7 points wouldn't mean we'd "sneak into the playoffs". By the end of the season if we perform as we should with the quality we still have, I'd expect 7 points to possibly drop us into 3rd/maybe 4th at worst...

 

Obviously without knowing where we stand when the deduction hits, it's hard to say for sure!

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JimJams

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9 hours ago, grth2004 said:

If you take 7 points off the season we went up then we would be in the playoffs and we were a lot better than we are now. 

Ok but you could have took 27 points off and STILL been in the playoffs that season.

 

You could have taken 30 points off of Leeds or Burnley last season and they'd still have finished in the playoffs. 

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OriginalRobboFOX

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Listened to this today. Don’t waste your time. Nothing new and nothing eye opening either… King Power are skint. Not seeking a buyer. Fans turning on Top. Blah blah blah… 

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les-tah

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12 hours ago, Jimmy said:

I very much doubt a Lawyer is risking his career by leaking stories.

 

I'm pretty sure Maguire was one of those peddling the "biggest points deduction in history" last season

Absolutely Spot on. And not just any lawyer apparently the one of the best in the world for sport.

 

Wouldn't risk his lifes work for a story.

87fox

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13 minutes ago, OriginalRobboFOX said:

Listened to this today. Don’t waste your time. Nothing new and nothing eye opening either… King Power are skint. Not seeking a buyer. Fans turning on Top. Blah blah blah… 

Probably the only slightly new thing he said worth repeating for others is that he thinks we're likely to post further significant losses for 2024/25, and will be at risk of another charge for that.

Ted Maul

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40 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

I highly doubt we'd be 7 points clear of 3rd this season, I think we're a 83-85 point team this season so play offs IMO.

I reckon 85 points gets you autos this season. 

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