Russell Martin

[RedSoxUK]

27 minutes ago, Ricey said:

He’s a really bad fit.

Quite the opposite, he's the EXACT manager Top and co would appoint and the evidence of that is so clear to us:

 

1. We are fake Man City.

2. Possession based football since Puel, Rodgers, then Enzo.

3. Scouting, coaches, players all set up and built around the idea of possession and control being a club philosophy.

4. First team coach is Barry Brian-Murphy.

 

Its what the club wants.. yeah sections of the fanbase are tired of it and want a change but it's not what the club want - we're not the only ideological club with this.

 

11 minutes ago, Ricey said:

More short term-ism, more predictable decisions.

Id argue, as I've said above, that Martin is actually part of the long term plan with the club philosophy in mind. It would be short termism to do something like.. hire Steve Cooper, for instance. 

 

Its the fact it's so obvious that seems to frustrate a lot of us because there's planet of managers who want to dominate but with more vigor and energy.

[Fox 4 Life]

How about for once we just get behind a new manager. We have turned in to a seriously self entitled fan base. We had an unbelievable 10 years but its over now so we need to accept where we are and move the **** on. 

[CosbehFox]

1 minute ago, RedSoxUK said:

Quite the opposite, he's the EXACT manager Top and co would appoint and the evidence of that is so clear to us:

 

1. We are fake Man City.

2. Possession based football since Puel, Rodgers, then Enzo.

3. Scouting, coaches, players all set up and built around the idea of possession and control being a club philosophy.

4. First team coach is Barry Brian-Murphy.

 

Its what the club wants.. yeah sections of the fanbase are tired of it and want a change but it's not what the club want - we're not the only ideological club with this.

 

Id argue, as I've said above, that Martin is actually part of the long term plan with the club philosophy in mind. It would be short termism to do something like.. hire Steve Cooper, for instance. 

 

It’s the fact it's so obvious that seems to frustrate a lot of us because there's planet of managers who want to dominate but with more vigor and energy.

You are right. It’s King Powers definition of a long term plan but it’s so incorrect that anyone can spot it. 
 

There’s no way that any promoted team is going to the Premier League and staying up playing Man City type football. 
 

The said style is being found at the top of the game. Teams like Spain and PSG have killed it recently 

[OntarioFox]

10 minutes ago, Fox 4 Life said:

How about for once we just get behind a new manager. We have turned in to a seriously self entitled fan base. We had an unbelievable 10 years but its over now so we need to accept where we are and move the **** on. 

Getting behind yet another Southampton reject after Vestergaard, Bertrand and Martyn Glover is exactly what we DON'T need right now. It would say to those calling the shots that we're okay with the shameful way they're running us and that we should just blindly support the third consecutive joke of a managerial appointment. He's a terminal loser who just scraped Southampton out of the Championship and then was the main reason they've threatened Derby's points record this time out. He will fail with us.

 

The club hierarchy are frankly taking the piss out of the fanbase and the lack of imagination is astounding. I'm glad that there's vocal opposition to the mere suggestion of him coming to the club. It's louder than it was for Cooper for Christ's sake, and look how that turned out. Our fanbase may be split but one thing we've never been off about is sussing out managers (Claudio's first season aside) - and the verdict was our away end openly calling him a w⚓ today. He's on a hiding to nothing at LCFC.

 

If he comes, gets us up and keeps us up, I'll hold my hands up and admit I was wrong, but i'm going to put my neck on the line and say that Russell Martin at LCFC will only serve to continue our sorry decline as a club.

Edited 25 May 2025 by OntarioFox

[King Claudio]

Playing devil's advocate...

We have the crux of the same team that went up under Enzo at a canter including  Vestegaard and Winks who aren't going anywhere and won't play under current manager.

 

Is it not a move that makes sense recruiting someone very similar in style to Enzo where we can fully utilise all the same players without having to replace a load (which we can't afford to do) under a manager who has also shown he can build a successful Championship side. 

 

I get he did crap in Prem but willing to cross that bridge when we get there. 

[LVFox]

I'll say this: Russell Martin will never get a better chance to prove his doubters wrong than this Leicester City side.

 

It's a side largely still kept over from Enzo, and therefore has a base knowledge of a similar style of football (far more than Southampton did when he walked through the door).

 

It's a similar morale than he turned around at Southampton, who had a similarly rotten year to us in the PL before he went in.

 

Personally, if he can return from injury to a similar standard, I believe he has the best player in the league in Abdul Fatawu. Who should be getting double digits for both goals and assists for a possession based side.

 

He also had Mavididi on the other side who should relish the one-two line breaking passes that Martins best football gives.

 

However.

 

I'm concerned Martin has always distrusts flair players, we have a 4 or 5 in the squad but he's never really had a success story in developing a player of that ilk.

 

He will need to recruit a number 10 and a centre forward that suits his style to have any chance of success.

 

I think we easily get playoffs under him, even with a points deduction...but it would take a miracle for us to stay in the Premier League under him, especially with our recent transfer activity 

[CosbehFox]

2 minutes ago, King Claudio said:

Playing devil's advocate...

We have the crux of the same team that went up under Enzo at a canter including  Vestegaard and Winks who aren't going anywhere and won't play under current manager.

 

Is it not a move that makes sense recruiting someone very similar in style to Enzo where we can fully utilise all the same players without having to replace a load (which we can't afford to do) under a manager who has also shown he can build a successful Championship side. 

 

I get he did crap in Prem but willing to cross that bridge when we get there. 

it’s a point I’ve considered but! 
 

If there’s any realisation of a points deduction, then this argument is a moot point. Take advantage that we may have two years to shape the squad and any promotion. 
 

That’s not without concerns that Martin is a poor manager of defensive shape. 

Edited 25 May 2025 by CosbehFox

[Mike1983]

Abysmal signing.

 

Who cares if he sounds charismatic in interviews? Possession for possession’s sake is the worst kind of football.

 

I peeked into the Saints thread, some of them reckon he was stat-padding just to land his next job. But surely no club would be negligent enough to skip proper due diligence in a business worth hundreds of millions, right?

 

Enter: Leicester City.

[Leicssmiths]

14 minutes ago, Fox 4 Life said:

How about for once we just get behind a new manager. We have turned in to a seriously self entitled fan base. We had an unbelievable 10 years but its over now so we need to accept where we are and move the **** on. 

Couldn't agree more and let's get behind Rudkin too

[OntarioFox]

1 minute ago, Leicssmiths said:

Couldn't agree more and let's get behind Rudkin too

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[Sly]

I’ve watched some tactical stuff and I’m not convinced he’s the worst we could make.

 

We’ll likely go back to a box midfield like we did under Maresca, with the inverted fullback cutting inside to bolster that.

 

If you consider he’s likely to bring Vestergaard and Winks back into the fold, these will suit the style he plays and also help us with ball retention. Skipp plays alongside Winks in the midfield. 
 

I’d imagine Fatawu and Mavididi are the two wide players. 
 

The main areas of concern for me are the goalkeeper and forward. Ideally you want a false 9 like Firminho to drop in a the 10 at times, allowing space for the wide players to cut inside. Daka isn’t that player. 

 

 

 

Stolarkzyk can’t distribute a ball and that concerns me. 

[Guppys Love Child]

50 minutes ago, splinterdream said:

I guess I’m looking at the fact we are a mess, we’re likely going to have to set up with players we had in our last championship campaign, we know Enzo ball is somewhat successful in that league, and that’s what Russel Martin plays.

 

i have to admit though, I don’t spend much time looking at other clubs so not sure who would be more suitable for a championship campaign, they’re all a massive gamble 

Only until the other teams adapted mid season and caught us up, and if we are going to be honest, if our closest rivals hadn't sh1t themselves and dropped the ball we could have missed out, as the points being gained had already started to slow.

 

My next point is - I don't want to watch an 'Enzo / Russell /BrendanBall' set up and coached team, I fvcking hate it!

 

It's boring as hell to watch, it kills any atmosphere, it invites pressure in our own 18Yd box, to hi-light a few points, also, we don't have and can't obtain the players technical enough to make it even half work.  I'd rather squeeze jif lemon in my eyes than endure possession (and then do fvck all positive with it) based football next season.

Appointing Martin will.only drive the wedge further in between the fans and this clueless club, plus he's also crap as a manager  his record and stat's prove that.

[Pliskin]

23 minutes ago, Fox 4 Life said:

How about for once we just get behind a new manager. We have turned in to a seriously self entitled fan base. We had an unbelievable 10 years but it’s over now so we need to accept where we are and move the **** on. 

The state of this post……

 

And exactly the mentality that will see us disappear into the abyss. 
 

Can it be put more simply than somehow managing to spaff nearly half a billion coming through the club over ten years, landing ourselves in trouble with PSR and spectacularly collapsing from a position of stability to where we are now? 
 

We don’t need to move on, we need to enforce a change at the top of the club. Top needs to sell the football club…. Anyone who even considers suggesting we simply need to accept this situation is part of the problem. 

[Guppys Love Child]

1 hour ago, K789 said:

Baffling to me also. Not sure who people think we could get. Dyche would command probably double the salary of Martin and his football is foul.  Rohl to Southampton looked done and they got cold feet when he started going on about top clubs. Then people mention musklic a guy who took plymouth.down. We aren't in a position to gamble. Martin will have us up there.

 

As a famous man once said...delusions of grandeur

 

OK. Convince me why I should believe you.

[splinterdream]

Does anyone know the general opinion of the Southampton fans with Martin, the chap I heard today spoke highly of him

[Fox 4 Life]

9 minutes ago, Pliskin said:

The state of this post……

 

And exactly the mentality that will see us disappear into the abyss. 
 

Can it be put more simply than somehow managing to spaff nearly half a billion coming through the club over ten years, landing ourselves in trouble with PSR and spectacularly collapsing from a position of stability to where we are now? 
 

We don’t need to move on, we need to enforce a change at the top of the club. Top needs to sell the football club…. Anyone who even considers suggesting we simply need to accept this situation is part of the problem. 

The state of this post, please explain how a few thousand people singing "sack the board" is going to make any ****ing difference. The board isnt going anywhere unfortunately and there is nothing we can realistically do about it unless literally everyone stops going to matches, which will never happen. Leicester fans have absolutely become self entitled, Russell Martin is not the problem here, if we hired Pep people would still find a negative.

[Fox 4 Life]

25 minutes ago, Leicssmiths said:

Couldn't agree more and let's get behind Rudkin too

Nobody is suggesting that, he's a useless **** but Martin hasn't even joined and is being written off, it's pathetic. Wouldn't be my first choice but we are where we are and we still have the same joke of a board, no money and incoming points deductions. Who are you expecting to take this dream job?

[Lambert09]

46 minutes ago, Fox 4 Life said:

How about for once we just get behind a new manager. We have turned in to a seriously self entitled fan base. We had an unbelievable 10 years but its over now so we need to accept where we are and move the **** on. 

I don’t think anyone’s turning their noses up because he’s not good enough, it’s because 1 he can’t take us further than being a yo-yo club and 2 the football is a terrible watch. 
 

We just want the football to be enjoyable, it’s not that much to ask. It’s what a lot of people use as a release and not being able to enjoy that anymore is pretty gutting. I’d rather get worse results but enjoy the games, 1-0 wins when we’ve only tried to score for 10% of the game is not going to ‘make’ a weekend 

[FrankieADZ]

the long and short of Martin is

 

he plays a worse version of Enzoball/Rodgers Ball(if some of our fans though it was boring under them) then wait if we do get RM

 

passing for passing sake, no plan B etc

[Fox 4 Life]

1 minute ago, Lambert09 said:

I don’t think anyone’s turning their noses up because he’s not good enough, it’s because 1 he can’t take us further than being a yo-yo club and 2 the football is a terrible watch. 
 

We just want the football to be enjoyable, it’s not that much to ask. It’s what a lot of people use as a release and not being able to enjoy that anymore is pretty gutting. I’d rather get worse results but enjoy the games, 1-0 wins when we’ve only tried to score for 10% of the game is not going to ‘make’ a weekend 

This is completely fair, I actually hated watching us under Enzo with all the sideways passing and we no longer have KDH who often made the difference going forward. I am not a Martin fan, I do like his passion if I'm honest but we picked his teams apart.

 

My frustration is with the fan base thinking we are some kind of attractive option, we are a mess and we don't have the money to be bringing Rohl in or attracting a manager that can realistically get us out of the division and then keep us up, lets focus on part 1 first which is getting out of the Championship with a likely points deduction. We can do worse than a manager that went 25 unbeaten the year we were last in that league.

[cityfanlee23]

Speaking to a few Southampton fans about how Martin pretty much destroyed the flair and excitement of their wingers has made this a monumental NO from me, it was a no anyway but our best 2 players are wingers,

It would be the most king power move ever to look at the squad we have then go for a manager who completely nullifies their talent. 
 

If I have to watch Mavididi and Fatawu beating their man only to turn around and pass it back to the full back or play it into the midfield I’ll be done with this club. 
 

I cannot do another season of Enzoball on steroids. 
 

DANNY. ROHL. IN. 
Urs Fischer, Sean dyche, rydstrom, 10 other names I’ve mentioned on this thread. 
 

Anyone but sideways managers.

[STUHILL]

4 minutes ago, Lambert09 said:

1-0 wins when we’ve only tried to score for 10% of the game is not going to ‘make’ a weekend 

They were the 3rd highest scorers in the Championship last season, only 2 behind us. I am not sure where this 1-0 thing has come from. They dished out some thrashings too. I don't want him here either but I do think he will get us promoted and not with 1-0 wins either. The passing out the back will be painful though.

[MPH]

1 hour ago, Tuna said:

12th in the championship doesn't earn you a Premier League job.

 

 

im not sure if you’re aware how absolutely dire the set up is at Sheffield Wed but  he’s don’t quite well considering…  the fact he hasn’t walked out on them is remarkable in of itself..

 

• Financial Problems:

  Sheffield Wednesday has been struggling financially for a while now, leading to a registration embargo for the past two seasons. 

   
• Owner's Actions:

  Owner Dejphon Chansiri's cashflow issues have caused players to not be paid on time. 

   
• Impact on the Club:

  The financial problems have affected the club's ability to register new players and have led to staff not being paid on time. 

   
• Fan Concerns:

  Fans are increasingly concerned about the club's future and are calling for Chansiri to resolve the financial situation according to EFL Analysis. 

[Mickyblueeyes]

3 hours ago, Lambert09 said:

We have stephy and fatawu, and genuinely think they would make any team a good championship team in their own. 
 

Get a half decent striker, keep Nelson and souttar and you already have the makings of a very good team at this level.

 

I genuinely think Enzo under performed with our squad… we should have broken the points record at a canter. it won’t be easy but I don’t buy into the fact this team won’t be good enough because on paper it certainly still should go back up… a few good signings and bad eggs leaving and we battle at the top. 
 

 

 

Yeah, you might be right.

[fox_favourite]

This is another bit of proof there isn't anyone with a footballing background in the board room. This is a lazy appointment without thought or full research. 

 

All they did was ask Hey Siri, who is close to Enzo as a style of football? 

 

It's just so shortsighted. Look beyond that and get someone who understands football in the board room, and recognises that Martin isn't the one to take this club forward.