Russell Martin

[Spudulike]

Can't remember our fans ever chanting anti-manager songs at a manager that is yet to be appointed! 

[South Shire Fox]

Just now, StinckleyFox said:

Not to say that he will go on to be a great manger because he had a good first stint though. I’d rather we bring someone with more experience who has proven record of getting teams out of the championship. Like what Burnley have done in hiring Scott Parker who I am sure everyone in the forum would turn their noses up at as well.

Southampton had an automatic promotion squad that Martin managed to finish 4th. Certainly not a proven track record. Cant compare him to Scott Parker who has been promoted in 3 out of his 4 Championship seasons

[Iwebema]

Just now, Spudulike said:

Can't remember our fans ever chanting anti-manager songs at a manager that is yet to be appointed! 

I think if we'd of played a game while all the Cooper rumours were circling we might of! Ha we just love repeating the same mistakes.

[Guppy]

1 minute ago, Spudulike said:

Can't remember our fans ever chanting anti-manager songs at a manager that is yet to be appointed! 

What was being sung? 😂

[kingfox]

6 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

The only hope we have of KP learning anything at this point is through considerable public embarrassment. The fans voicing their concerns loudly and en masse in a way the press pick up on is about the only thing we can do. 

Right then, who’s gonna graffiti Rudkin out, Martin out, Rohl in on the King Power stadium walls? 

[K789]

10 minutes ago, slymunn said:

Danny rohl wants a bigger fish than us. He's gone Billy big balls. Wants prem or bundesliga I.imagine thsts why saints went cold on him

[JonnyBoy]

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Edited 25 May 2025 by JonnyBoy

[MPH]

13 minutes ago, South Shire Fox said:

Never a good idea to appoint a manager who the majority of the fanbase do not approve of. Just look at how quickly things turned toxic with Cooper

 

he’d have no credit in the bank. Couple of bad performances and fans would be on his back and everything goes down hill quickly in that scenerio.

[inckley fox]

4 minutes ago, jv1 said:

The amount of hate on here for Martin is beyond belief - this forum has got to new levels of toxicity this year - maybe slightly understandable that everyone is beyond cheesed off after the garbage we have been served up every week but the negativity isn’t healthy - especially for a bloke that hasn’t even managed a minute for us - he is getting the hate of top , rudkin , cooper and ruud combined and he hasn’t even been appointed yet - bonkers 

I think some of it on here is a sense of resignation that any path forward plotted by the current leadership is almost certainly the wrong one. And, to be fair, I can see why this move looks like the wrong one, regardless of which set of owners might be contemplating it. Aside from scraping Southampton back into the top flight, the guy has a middling record. And he was pretty much the only manager this season who did a worse job than the manager we are firing, and the one we fired before him. Yes, it'd be nice if fans would give him a fair crack of the whip were he to get the job, but he isn't Leicester manager yet, and doesn't need to become Leicester manager either, so now seems like a fair time to have a moan.

 

The chanting at the ground is people trying to tell the board to think again in the only way they can. The board made a contentious appointment last summer, even if there were plenty of people who thought it shouldn't have been all that contentious, and things got very nasty very quickly. Negativity in the stands quickly spread to players who were skeptical about his methods, and that's likely to happen again.

 

I don't believe most appointments would be as divisive as Dyche or Martin, and at a moment in time as sensitive as this, the club would be unwise to do something so unpopular. It's not 2011, when you off-set unhappiness at Sven's dismissal with the fact that it was Pearson replacing him, or 2015, when we accepted Ranieri because we were ecstatic to even be in the Premier League. Whether we like it or not, patience with Martin will be wafer thin before he even gets going and that doesn't need to be the case. I'm not advocating for full-on fan power by any stretch, but when you've just seen a manager hounded out of the club by popular demand and the season promptly go up in smoke in the aftermath, you'd think that at least one eye should be on the fans. Partly because there must be a doubt or two creeping into even their heads by now about their own capacity to make these key decisions - so wouldn't it make sense, then, to take in as wide a range of perspectives this time around, instead of lurching into another unpopular decision?

 

In other words, not only is their decision likely to be the wrong one, but also - even if Martin ticked all the right boxes, and was indeed a steady appointment - the appointment may be doomed to fail just because of how divisive it is. 

 

I also, for what it's worth, believe it looks like the wrong appointment for a whole host of other reasons. The biggest, though, is that I think in some key ways he's the opposite of what we need right now because (a) very few in the current squad have met basic standards of commitment and professionalism - on the pitch and at times off it - and I don't think that requires a reassuring arm around the shoulder, or the reintegration of Vestergard or Winks. I think we need to go the other way. And (b) I think we need a far longer-term approach at the club. Appointing a manager who might win a promotion but is unlikely to be up to the task - and whose style of play may well need overhauling in a few short pre-season weeks - if we do, seems like the definition of short-termism.

[MPH]

2 minutes ago, K789 said:

Danny rohl wants a bigger fish than us. He's gone Billy big balls. Wants prem or bundesliga I.imagine thsts why saints went cold on him

 

he’d come but we won’t pay his release clause.  Saints wouldn’t either.

Edited 25 May 2025 by MPH

[splinterdream]

I guess I’m looking at the fact we are a mess, we’re likely going to have to set up with players we had in our last championship campaign, we know Enzo ball is somewhat successful in that league, and that’s what Russel Martin plays.

 

i have to admit though, I don’t spend much time looking at other clubs so not sure who would be more suitable for a championship campaign, they’re all a massive gamble 

[Finnegan]

3 minutes ago, kingfox said:

Right then, who’s gonna graffiti Rudkin out, Martin out, Rohl in on the King Power stadium walls? 

 

Admiteddly this is now hilarious in retrospect.

 

[Tuna]

7 minutes ago, South Shire Fox said:

Southampton had an automatic promotion squad that Martin managed to finish 4th. Certainly not a proven track record. Cant compare him to Scott Parker who has been promoted in 3 out of his 4 Championship seasons

No way Southampton's squad was better than ours or Leeds

[Tuna]

4 minutes ago, K789 said:

Danny rohl wants a bigger fish than us. He's gone Billy big balls. Wants prem or bundesliga I.imagine thsts why saints went cold on him

12th in the championship doesn't earn you a Premier League job.

[Foxin_Mad]

5 minutes ago, inckley fox said:

I think some of it on here is a sense of resignation that any path forward plotted by the current leadership is almost certainly the wrong one. And, to be fair, I can see why this move looks like the wrong one, regardless of which set of owners might be contemplating it. Aside from scraping Southampton back into the top flight, the guy has a middling record. And he was pretty much the only manager this season who did a worse job than the manager we are firing, and the one we fired before him. Yes, it'd be nice if fans would give him a fair crack of the whip were he to get the job, but he isn't Leicester manager yet, and doesn't need to become Leicester manager either, so now seems like a fair time to have a moan.

 

The chanting at the ground is people trying to tell the board to think again in the only way they can. The board made a contentious appointment last summer, even if there were plenty of people who thought it shouldn't have been all that contentious, and things got very nasty very quickly. Negativity in the stands quickly spread to players who were skeptical about his methods, and that's likely to happen again.

 

I don't believe most appointments would be as divisive as Dyche or Martin, and at a moment in time as sensitive as this, the club would be unwise to do something so unpopular. It's not 2011, when you off-set unhappiness at Sven's dismissal with the fact that it was Pearson replacing him, or 2015, when we accepted Ranieri because we were ecstatic to even be in the Premier League. Whether we like it or not, patience with Martin will be wafer thin before he even gets going and that doesn't need to be the case. I'm not advocating for full-on fan power by any stretch, but when you've just seen a manager hounded out of the club by popular demand and the season promptly go up in smoke in the aftermath, you'd think that at least one eye should be on the fans. Partly because there must be a doubt or two creeping into even their heads by now about their own capacity to make these key decisions - so wouldn't it make sense, then, to take in as wide a range of perspectives this time around, instead of lurching into another unpopular decision?

 

In other words, not only is their decision likely to be the wrong one, but also - even if Martin ticked all the right boxes, and was indeed a steady appointment - the appointment may be doomed to fail just because of how divisive it is. 

 

I also, for what it's worth, believe it looks like the wrong appointment for a whole host of other reasons. The biggest, though, is that I think in some key ways he's the opposite of what we need right now because (a) very few in the current squad have met basic standards of commitment and professionalism - on the pitch and at times off it - and I don't think that requires a reassuring arm around the shoulder, or the reintegration of Vestergard or Winks. I think we need to go the other way. And (b) I think we need a far longer-term approach at the club. Appointing a manager who might win a promotion but is unlikely to be up to the task - and whose style of play may well need overhauling in a few short pre-season weeks - if we do, seems like the definition of short-termism.

Spot on! Much better than I could put as I just get to angry and wound up a the halfwit decisions the club has made and continues to make, probably bothers me way more than it should. 

[Foxin_Mad]

4 minutes ago, Tuna said:

No way Southampton's squad was better than ours or Leeds

It was better than Ipswich's and considerably better than what we currently have.

 

Id genuinely pay good money to never see any of these insufferable ***** again, bar the young lads

[K789]

8 minutes ago, Tuna said:

12th in the championship doesn't earn you a Premier League job.

Tell him that.  You heard his interviews?  He's got an extremely inflated opinion of himself 

[CrazyKopCorner]

16 minutes ago, Guppy said:

What was being sung? 😂

Russell Martin what a willy puller what a willy puller. 
 

This board is absolutely deaf as a post though 

[DezFox]

1 hour ago, Aleksz said:

I understand the reservations people would have about Martin, but I find the level of vitriol here a bit baffling… anyone would think we’re appointing Peter Taylor or Dennis Wise… Would love to know what the bloke has done to some of you lot 

And posts like this are part of the problem!! Clueless! 

Edited 25 May 2025 by DezFox

[whoareyaaa]

13 minutes ago, splinterdream said:

I guess I’m looking at the fact we are a mess, we’re likely going to have to set up with players we had in our last championship campaign, we know Enzo ball is somewhat successful in that league, and that’s what Russel Martin plays.

 

i have to admit though, I don’t spend much time looking at other clubs so not sure who would be more suitable for a championship campaign, they’re all a massive gamble 

The difference being Enzo was the Heinz’s beans this guy is the supermarket version 

[CosbehFox]

Good to see we’ve got some teeth. 

[RyCleary]

16 minutes ago, Tuna said:

No way Southampton's squad was better than ours or Leeds

Was better than Ipswich though…

[Realist Guy In The Room]

26 minutes ago, Spudulike said:

Can't remember our fans ever chanting anti-manager songs at a manager that is yet to be appointed! 

Happened once I remember when Dave Bassett was about to be appointed.

[K789]

1 hour ago, Aleksz said:

I understand the reservations people would have about Martin, but I find the level of vitriol here a bit baffling… anyone would think we’re appointing Peter Taylor or Dennis Wise… Would love to know what the bloke has done to some of you lot 

Baffling to me also. Not sure who people think we could get. Dyche would command probably double the salary of Martin and his football is foul.  Rohl to Southampton looked done and they got cold feet when he started going on about top clubs. Then people mention musklic a guy who took plymouth.down. We aren't in a position to gamble. Martin will have us up there.

 

As a famous man once said...delusions of grandeur

 

[mod hero]

Just now, Realist Guy In The Room said:

Happened once I remember when Dave Bassett was about to be appointed.

You can shove your Harry Bassett up your arse.

 

(sideways)