Russell Martin

[adejo92]

8 hours ago, Winstonthedog said:

Please explain Enzos system 

The start and end of the games consisted of endless passes around the back 4. Occasionally you may venture into the opposition half but then soon return to your back 4 in fear of being too 'risky'.

 

Cant really tell you what happened in the middle of the games as I was often asleep.

 

 

[john ridley]

54 minutes ago, TommyK said:

"Of course, results keep me in a job but I’ve been happier with a performance when losing than I have sometimes when we have won, playing really poorly, and I always make that really clear to the players. Winning ugly every now and then is fine, but you don’t get away with it for long.”

Sounds like Enzo when we beat Southampton 5 nil because  we didn't play " his " way and went mardy.

[coolhandfox]

Not who I'd have picked, but I will give him a chance if appointed.

[Number 6]

Aptly feels like a bit of a sideways pass of an appointment. 

[majaco]

Enzoball was deadly boring

[Eskay]

I forget that they actually only scraped through in the play offs. 

 

Honestly at the moment with our approach to everything.....we have more chance of another 10+ years in championship than getting back up. 

[Ricey]

1 minute ago, Eskay said:

I forget that they actually only scraped through in the play offs. 

 

Honestly at the moment with our approach to everything.....we have more chance of another 10+ years in championship than getting back up. 

Style aside, this is the crux of it for me. I don’t buy that “he’ll get us promoted”.
 

It probably guards against a totally calamitous season, but he took over a Southampton team that had been an established Premier League side for 11 years, in a world where the gulf between the PL and Championship is as big as it’s ever been, and he finished 4th. I’d say that’s a slight underachievement?

 

In the Premier League he then masterminded one of the most pathetic showings in the leagues history.

 

His reputation is inflated because he chooses style over results. Image over tangible progression. For the clubs who are still stuck in the past and desperate to replicate Pep and Man City, he is a dream.

 

For everyone else, a nightmare awaits.

[suffolk fox]

1 hour ago, adejo92 said:

The start and end of the games consisted of endless passes around the back 4. Occasionally you may venture into the opposition half but then soon return to your back 4 in fear of being too 'risky'.

 

Cant really tell you what happened in the middle of the games as I was often asleep.

 

 

Me too.

[Winstonthedog]

1 hour ago, MGLCFC said:

Based on our last time in the Championship and the current squad, I'd say Winks, Vestergaard and Ricardo are all comfortable on the ball at this level, probably Skipp and BEK too

One question... would you want them in the team if we were promoted again ?

[cityfanlee23]

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/14847521/russell-martin-next-rangers-manager-final-decision-ibrox/?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=ScottishSunSportTwitter&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1748295387
 

🤞 

RUSSELL MARTIN will meet with Rangers chiefs this week to make a fresh pitch to become Ibrox boss.

SunSport can reveal the 39-year-old remains one of the names in the frame to replace sacked Philippe Clement, despite interest from Leicester City.

[daddylonglegs]

I'm sure this point has been made more eloquently than this, but it is literally unbelievable that the club would make the mistake of hiring someone the fanbase are so obviously against after what happened with Cooper. A film that we've not only seen before, but one where the end credits are still rolling.

 

Also, can someone please explain to me why Rudkin is still in a position to make these decisions? In what other work of life are you able to cock up business-critical decisions with real-life impacts to a business ? (I'd wager his decision to not sack Rodgers, hire Smith, hire Cooper & hire Ruud have cost the business north of £100m). That's before you get into any of the catastrophic signings we've made on the playing side. 

Why is no one accountable? 

[Guest Bilo]

The only positive I can draw from it is that he'll make us hard to beat in the Championship. Don't let the spankings we doled out against them fool you; Southampton went 22 unbeaten at one stage. That's a positive for a side who have been extremely easy to beat this season.

 

They did, however, leak goals when they came up. Nine to us over two games with only one in reply and 22 more over the course of a season. Expect lots of 2-2 draws and 3-2 wins, I think. But also some absolute spankings to the better teams in the division. 

[Winstonthedog]

1 hour ago, adejo92 said:

The start and end of the games consisted of endless passes around the back 4. Occasionally you may venture into the opposition half but then soon return to your back 4 in fear of being too 'risky'.

 

Cant really tell you what happened in the middle of the games as I was often asleep.

 

 

Exactly that .... and if you speak to any Chelsea fans they say the same ... 

[Philkeavo]

2 minutes ago, Winstonthedog said:

One question... would you want them in the team if we were promoted again ?

I don’t want them in the team ever again. 

[Fox92]

49 minutes ago, Eskay said:

I forget that they actually only scraped through in the play offs. 

 

Honestly at the moment with our approach to everything.....we have more chance of another 10+ years in championship than getting back up. 

I wouldn't call it scraping through the play offs. They only finished 10 points behind us and we won the league. Lost the same amount of games as us too.

 

Compared to this season where the 4th place team also got promoted, Sunderland, but finished 24 points off of 1st. 

[Philkeavo]

2 minutes ago, daddylonglegs said:

I'm sure this point has been made more eloquently than this, but it is literally unbelievable that the club would make the mistake of hiring someone the fanbase are so obviously against after what happened with Cooper. A film that we've not only seen before, but one where the end credits are still rolling.

 

Also, can someone please explain to me why Rudkin is still in a position to make these decisions? In what other work of life are you able to cock up business-critical decisions with real-life impacts to a business ? (I'd wager his decision to not sack Rodgers, hire Smith, hire Cooper & hire Ruud have cost the business north of £100m). That's before you get into any of the catastrophic signings we've made on the playing side. 

Why is no one accountable? 

Because the owner is an inadequate idiot.

[Winstonthedog]

1 minute ago, Philkeavo said:

I don’t want them in the team ever again. 

Me neither   .. so get rid and save on wages 

[Guest Bilo]

2 minutes ago, cityfanlee23 said:

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/14847521/russell-martin-next-rangers-manager-final-decision-ibrox/?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=ScottishSunSportTwitter&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1748295387
 

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RUSSELL MARTIN will meet with Rangers chiefs this week to make a fresh pitch to become Ibrox boss.

SunSport can reveal the 39-year-old remains one of the names in the frame to replace sacked Philippe Clement, despite interest from Leicester City.

We can only hope he's using us to gee Rangers up for their vacancy or that it's another Marsch, Parker or Potter situation where another appointment comes up at the last minute. 

[daddylonglegs]

Just now, Philkeavo said:

Because the owner is an inadequate idiot.

But forget the owner for a second, this is a £100m business (formerly significantly bigger than that). For all of the sarcasm we throw at them, it cannot possibly just be Susan, Rudkin & Top sat in a board room making decisions. Surely there are handfuls of other people at board level at least finger pointing?!

[Philkeavo]

5 minutes ago, daddylonglegs said:

But forget the owner for a second, this is a £100m business (formerly significantly bigger than that). For all of the sarcasm we throw at them, it cannot possibly just be Susan, Rudkin & Top sat in a board room making decisions. Surely there are handfuls of other people at board level at least finger pointing?!

Fair question but where’s the evidence. I think Top has ably demonstrated he’s not his father. 

[Iwebema]

 

7 minutes ago, cityfanlee23 said:

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RUSSELL MARTIN will meet with Rangers chiefs this week to make a fresh pitch to become Ibrox boss.

SunSport can reveal the 39-year-old remains one of the names in the frame to replace sacked Philippe Clement, despite interest from Leicester City.

I thought people were saying this was done and he was being announced today 🤪

 

Unfortunately all my "inside football" contacts are at forest, they haven't a clue what's going on with us as I've asked, all they said towards the back end of the season was no one seemed to know what our plan was because they weren't expecting relegation and it took some time for the board to come to terms with it.

 

Rangers fans seem adamant its Davide Ancellotti for them and its already done 🤷‍♂️

 

For what its worth I think he'd do well there and the fans would accept him. As we've already seen hes going to face an uphill battle with us all summer, he will need one hell of a PR campaign and hot start to get the majority on board with him

 

[Tuna]

10 minutes ago, Bilo said:

We can only hope he's using us to gee Rangers up for their vacancy or that it's another Marsch, Parker or Potter situation where another appointment comes up at the last minute. 

Gary o neil

[lcfcsnow]

 

Reliable Rangers ITK apparently

[ian__marshall]

5 minutes ago, Fox92 said:

I wouldn't call it scraping through the play offs. They only finished 10 points behind us and we won the league. Lost the same amount of games as us too.

 

Compared to this season where the 4th place team also got promoted, Sunderland, but finished 24 points off of 1st. 

Agreed. They kept pace with both us and Leeds who were also expected to finish in the top 2 as sides that'd all been relegated. The outlier being that Ipswich had the season of their lives and gatecrashed the party. To add that they also beat Leeds three times over the course of the season, despite us losing both our games to Leeds. Where they struggled were against some of the lesser sides in the league, points dropped that we converted to wins. 

[Guest Lako42]

10 hours ago, cityfanlee23 said:

Exactly where I'm at. Plus his style requires quite dynamic players who are comfortable on the ball, something any future manager would certainly benefit from. 

Yay, something we don't have.