Russell Martin

[moore_94]

8 minutes ago, Stevosevic said:

Not my first pick but think people are forgetting how much they were waxing lyrical about Saints the year we were promoted.

 

During the unbeaten run they went on many on here were saying how much better they were than us at the time. 

Pretty sure they actually managed to take less points than we did over that unbeaten run

[Tuna]

Just now, moore_94 said:

Pretty sure they actually managed to take less points than we did over that unbeaten run

Saw you had posted an thought you had breaking news

[Mike Oxlong]

What are the chances of getting an ST refund ? 

[FrankieADZ]

4 minutes ago, AjcW said:

That concept that Brighton/Brentford have stems in to players too. Everyone has a for sale price, and every player has 2 replacements waiting in the wings, one already at the club and one heavily scouted to the point where the club know they can agree a deal quickly. 

the thing with them clubs, they are "fluid" in that sense, they have targets for managers and players, that keep evolving every season, pretty sure Brighton already have a list of managers to replace FH if he was to go, that list is always being updated etc, kinda like with the players, 

 

where as here, it feels like the club uses a ****ing dart board of managers who are free, like last summer Corberan was available for i think 3/5mil, he would have come, i think we was even interested but cos of that release clause they backed away with morons but them spunked £5mil on Ayew

there is no rhyme or reason for the approach of this club, then again, in footballing terms behind the scenes they are dinosaurs, who have been left behind

[AjcW]

Just now, FrankieADZ said:

the thing with them clubs, they are "fluid" in that sense, they have targets for managers and players, that keep evolving every season, pretty sure Brighton already have a list of managers to replace FH if he was to go, that list is always being updated etc, kinda like with the players, 

Honestly mate i've watched Brighton a few times this season and every game i've been like "who the **** is this guy"  it's like they just spawn new players that no one knew they'd signed. Diego Gomez was one that got me the other week.

[FrankieADZ]

7 minutes ago, moore_94 said:

Pretty sure they actually managed to take less points than we did over that unbeaten run

and if you look at the teams they played during that run(minus Leeds), youd put them as favourite during all of them regardless

[Chelmofox]

8 minutes ago, Stevosevic said:

Not my first pick but think people are forgetting how much they were waxing lyrical about Saints the year we were promoted.

 

During the unbeaten run they went on many on here were saying how much better they were than us at the time. 

Then we battered them.

 

But you are right, at the time it was definitely softer on here towards Martin. 

 

Im going to have to back him and I hope he changes his approach a bit (i don't think he will). Its a worrying appointment as its so obvious, and i am sure the board are convinced that Southampton were the problem and not Martin. The problem i see is that we effectively just replicate what Southampton did last season and nothing really moves forward.

[kingfox]

3 minutes ago, AjcW said:

That concept that Brighton/Brentford have stems in to players too. Everyone has a for sale price, and every player has 2 replacements waiting in the wings, one already at the club and one heavily scouted to the point where the club know they can agree a deal quickly. 

And that of course is why we need changes at board level. 
 

How many profitable assets have we signed recently? Hermansen, Fatawu and El Khannouss. Brighton for example, we don’t have enough fingers to count how many profitable assets they’ve signed for their football club, it’s double figures worth. 
 

The one thing I’m clinging on to, is how Swansea City’s squad looked when Russell Martin was there. In his first season at Swansea, they had the 4th youngest squad in the Championship. In his second season, they had the 2nd youngest squad in the Championship. 
 

If he can bring the average age of our squad down, then he’ll get a pat on the back from me.

[john ridley]

1 minute ago, FrankieADZ said:

the thing with them clubs, they are "fluid" in that sense, they have targets for managers and players, that keep evolving every season, pretty sure Brighton already have a list of managers to replace FH if he was to go, that list is always being updated etc, kinda like with the players, 

 

where as here, it feels like the club uses a ****ing dart board of managers who are free, like last summer Corberan was available for i think 3/5mil, he would have come, i think we was even interested but cos of that release clause they backed away with morons but them spunked £5mil on Ayew

there is no rhyme or reason for the approach of this club, then again, in footballing terms behind the scenes they are dinosaurs, who have been left behind

Also  the ****ing eduoard money would have  paid  for Corberan,we are a ****ing shambles. 

[FrankieADZ]

Just now, AjcW said:

Honestly mate i've watched Brighton a few times this season and every game i've been like "who the **** is this guy"  it's like they just spawn new players that no one knew they'd signed. Diego Gomez was one that got me the other week.

I know right, Gomez from MLS, like there is talent in every single league, it depends if youve got the balls to actually go look and take the risk, 

where as us here, we dont scout asia, south america etc, even in terms of managers etc, why i say this club is incredibly stuck in the dinosaur age in footballing terms

 

sadly why we are being left behind in every single aspect on the footballing side

[FrankieADZ]

2 minutes ago, kingfox said:

And that of course is why we need changes at board level. 
 

How many profitable assets have we signed recently? Hermansen, Fatawu and El Khannouss. Brighton for example, we don’t have enough fingers to count how many profitable assets they’ve signed for their football club, it’s double figures worth. 
 

The one thing I’m clinging on to, is how Swansea City’s squad looked when Russell Martin was there. In his first season at Swansea, they had the 4th youngest squad in the Championship. In his second season, they had the 2nd youngest squad in the Championship. 
 

If he can bring the average age of our squad down, then he’ll get a pat on the back from me.

that is really really clutching id say,  didnt really do much with the team tho, was more style of substance

dont get me wrong i think alot more of us wouldnt mind RM IF IF he had the balls to actually change his style more, he might have changed it during the play off final but hes stubborn to a fault with his style and as we saw with Enzo it didnt always work, youve got to be adaptive not reactive, and why do a 20 passes at times when 4/5 can be just as effective,  

 

Dont get me wrong if he does become the manager Ill give him a chance but hes got to give the youth a chance, no stupid signings, take no shite from the chuckle brothers and actually so he has more strings to his bow than just the tippy tappy shit

[brookfox]

The biggest concern for me if we do appoint Martin will be that the board have concluded all that’s needed is a new manager. “Get a proven Champ manager in early doors and we’ll be fine” sort of attitude.

 

Far too many bad decisions happening for a new manager alone to solve but this would be a clear indication Top and co think this will be the panacea and ignore other areas. Even ignoring the applicant, it’s deflating news!

[Finnegan]

27 minutes ago, kingfox said:

If it is to be Russell which is looking highly likely, the thing that pisses me off the most is this boards continuation to cripple themselves. 
 

To be so reluctant to actually pay a release clause for a manager is lazy. 
 

They are just making their net even smaller, and we can bang on about the more hipster names all we want, but when you break it down and see who’s realistically available, it’s as if they’ve constrained themselves to a predictable, uninspiring list. 
 

They’ve probably just concentrated on names like Martin, Dyche, Hasenhuttl, O’Neil and plucked for Martin just because he aligns more with our previous style.

 

You look at teams like Brighton and even Sunderland last summer, you can tell just how thorough their managerial processes were. They want a specific manager that aligns with their continued philosophies. 
 

But what on earth is our philosophy? It’s as if they are just trying to amend the appointments they made this season, we fvcked up on Cooper and RVN, let’s just go back to a heavy possession style, it served us well last time and Russell Martin is free. 
 

I’m currently 60/40 in the feeling that Russell may actually do a decent job for us in the Championship, but I seriously worry about the long term ramifications of this football club, especially if he continues to be stubborn and doesn’t evolve. 
 

There’s absolutely nothing thorough and long term about our managerial processes, it’s fvcking infuriating. 

 

I'm convinced we do absolutely zero research on managers at all. 

 

[Foxin_Mad]

7 minutes ago, kingfox said:

 

 

If he can bring the average age of our squad down, then he’ll get a pat on the back from me.

If he can utilise the youngsters and rebuild clear out the overpaid shite I would take that. My biggest concern is we see the return of players we hate.

 

Id even take a few mid table years if we could properly bring on the academy. 

[FrankieADZ]

1 minute ago, brookfox said:

The biggest concern for me if we do appoint Martin will be that the board have concluded all that’s needed is a new manager. “Get a proven Champ manager in early doors and we’ll be fine” sort of attitude.

 

Far too many bad decisions happening for a new manager alone to solve but this would be a clear indication Top and co think this will be the panacea and ignore other areas. Even ignoring the applicant, it’s deflating news!

Proven.....hes only been promoted once, and i think that Southampton season was the highest league position hes been in terms of a manager(didnt get promoted at MKdons or Swansea), highest before that was 10th

 

thats saying Paul Warne is a proven championship manager imo

[Collymore]

First and foremost I just want to have a manager that gets more of the simple decisions right than wrong and works on bringing the right culture to the club. 

 

Cooper got Buonanotte looking like a world beater but persisted with BDCR and neglected Mavadadi and Fatawu (before he was injured) Absolute insanity. 

 

Ruud comes in without his own coaching staff, neglects Buonanotte (the one shining light) and persists with utter tripe like Soumare, Ayew, Faes etc  on a record breaking losing streak!- It just goes against all logic. 

 

I don't care who the manager is next season as long as we do the following three things:

 

1. Have Alves, Evans, Monga, Nelson etc integrated into the squad.

 

2. Any deadwood still in contract are only let near the first team if they show the passion and desire we would expect.

 

3. Go back to the model of signing young, hungry and talented players we can make a profit on and will add something to the team. 

 

Those three things sound simple written down but what worries me is we'll probably end up doing the exact opposite. 

 

Edited 27 May 2025 by Collymore

[teblin]

I hope we are all wrong. I hope Russell is here for 3/4 years and leaves us in a better place. I can't see it, but hope we are all wrong.

[TheUltimateWinner]

2 hours ago, lcfcsnow said:

 

Reliable Rangers ITK apparently

Rudders is 100% going to fall for it and double his wage offer

[Fox92]

14 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

I'm convinced we do absolutely zero research on managers at all. 

 

I honestly believe the only criteria is "previously worked in England".

[Uncle Monty]

19 minutes ago, kingfox said:

And that of course is why we need changes at board level. 
 

How many profitable assets have we signed recently? Hermansen, Fatawu and El Khannouss. Brighton for example, we don’t have enough fingers to count how many profitable assets they’ve signed for their football club, it’s double figures worth. 
 

The one thing I’m clinging on to, is how Swansea City’s squad looked when Russell Martin was there. In his first season at Swansea, they had the 4th youngest squad in the Championship. In his second season, they had the 2nd youngest squad in the Championship. 
 

If he can bring the average age of our squad down, then he’ll get a pat on the back from me.

Finally, something promising from Martin! If he gives our youngsters a chance, he'll earn more patience from the fans – and certainly from me. I can stomach a boring draw or loss if our academy lads are getting playing time and showing promise. What I can't stand is seeing overpaid journeymen with nothing to play for out on the pitch.

[Trav Le Bleu]

Why can't I find anything about this on reliable news sources?

[AKCJ]

1 minute ago, Collymore said:

First and foremost I just want to have a manager that gets more of the simple decisions right than wrong and works on bringing the right culture to the club. 

 

Cooper got Buonanotte looking like a world beater but persisted with BDCR and neglected Mavadadi and Fatawu (before he was injured) Absolute insanity. 

 

Ruud comes in and neglects Buonanotte (the one shining light) and persists with utter tripe like Soumare, Ayew, Faes etc - It just goes against all logic. 

 

I don't care who the manager is next season as long as we do the following three things:

 

1. Have Alves, Evans, Monga, Nelson etc integrated into the squad.

 

2. Any deadwood still in contract are only let near the first team if they show the passion and desire we would expect.

 

3. Go back to the model of signing young, hungry and talented players we can make a profit on and will add something to the team. 

 

Those three things sound simple written down but what worries me is we'll probably end up doing the exact opposite. 

 

This is one hell of an exaggeration. 

 

 

[FLAN]

If he does come in he must sign Edouard on a permanent. 

[Collymore]

2 hours ago, AKCJ said:

This is one hell of an exaggeration. 

 

 

Okay, we picked the right players. Signing BCDR and Ayew were great signings (I mean who wants to see a 15yo wonderkid playing when you've got BDCR and Ayew in the squad)

 

Ruud was right to come in and not bring his own coaches. I've watched the Rambo franchise - you CAN be successful on your own. 

 

As for Buonanotte, yeah, he was looking alright but let's not get ahead of ourselves. BDCR looked equally as threatening. 

 

He shouldn't have changed things on the record breaking losing streak - Faes could have turned into Maldidni at any point and it was always on for Ayew to turn into prime Ronaldo, he just needed a lucky bobble to get it all started.

 

I do hope we don't see any of those youngsters next season. You can't win anything with youth. Thank god we still have Coady and Vestergaard still signed up and Ayew's experience leading the line. 

 

I hope Martin signs some more experienced players. Maybe we need to push the boat out a bit and use those parachute payments to really let the league know who's boss. Another Skipp type would be good in  midfield. 

 

 

 

Edited 27 May 2025 by Collymore

[volpeazzurro]

37 minutes ago, Mike Oxlong said:

What are the chances of getting an ST refund ? 

I'm wondering that myself. When would the first direct debit installment be due for the new season ticket and could you cancel the payments before it starts?

 

We had decided to stay and look forward to a Championship rebuild BUT you just know that with Martin, you're doomed to a particular brain numbing type of football (again) and, even in the unlikely event of promotion, what outcome to expect. I really just can't be bothered wasting another couple of years of my life bored out of my brains.

 

It's not about loyalty anymore because I've always accepted relegation as part of the Leicester deal in the hope of regrouping and trying again and I've been going since 1968! Promotion, whilst always an aim, isn't necessarily required to keep me happy. However, being a supporter (not a customer) and having a team who I feel I can get behind is. Prerequisites for me now are proper effort by the players and a team and manager trying to be the best version of themselves that they can commensurate with their abilities, not merely trying to very poorly copy some other team due to the ego of a manager or owner.