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Tielemans63

The youth

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If the club are brave enough to give these youngsters a chance, I think some of the goodwill the club have drained out of the fanbase could be restored almost instantly.

 

I could happily live with not competing for automatic promotion if we had a young and hungry team fighting for the club. If you're good enough, you're old enough and a few of these lads look miles better than these overpaid dickheads who've got us relegated again.

 

*this was meant to just go in the match thread but I ****ed that right up lol 'vxxxxjjhfheehddjdod' wasn't a great title thread.

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Just now, Tielemans63 said:

If the club are brave enough to give these youngsters a chance, I think a lot of the goodwill the club have drained out of the fanbase could be restored almost instantly.

 

I could happily live with not competing for automatic promotion if we had a young and hungry team fighting for the club. If you're good enough, you're old enough and a few of these lads look miles better than these overpaid dickheads who've got us relegated again.

Have you been on the sauce??

 

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I would absolutely love a generation of fantastic young players from our own academy. 

 

But I do think some of you need to calm down. Some of these kids are incredibly young and so far you've watched them play behind closed doors friendlies against two pub teams. 

 

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5 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

I would absolutely love a generation of fantastic young players from our own academy. 

 

But I do think some of you need to calm down. Some of these kids are incredibly young and so far you've watched them play behind closed doors friendlies against two pub teams. 

 

I'm not saying they're all going to be world beaters, I'm saying I think the majority of fans would be supportive if the likes of Monga, Nelson, Alves etc were given opportunities over the absolute wasters we've had playing for the club 

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6 hours ago, Tielemans63 said:

If the club are brave enough to give these youngsters a chance, I think some of the goodwill the club have drained out of the fanbase could be restored almost instantly.

 

I could happily live with not competing for automatic promotion if we had a young and hungry team fighting for the club. If you're good enough, you're old enough and a few of these lads look miles better than these overpaid dickheads who've got us relegated again.

 

*this was meant to just go in the match thread but I ****ed that right up lol 'vxxxxjjhfheehddjdod' wasn't a great title thread.


 

They wouldn’t be good enough if we didn’t get promoted.

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I think if we play the youth, we’ll get hammered.

 

It’s one thing playing friendlies in pre season, where most people are just going through the motions. 
 

We finished 12th out of 13 teams in the Southern U18 Premier League. We can’t believe these are the great hope to get us out of the Championship. They need time and most likely to be blooded at a lower level. They’ll be lambs to the slaughter otherwise. 

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6 minutes ago, Sly said:

I think if we play the youth, we’ll get hammered.

 

It’s one thing playing friendlies in pre season, where most people are just going through the motions. 
 

We finished 12th out of 13 teams in the Southern U18 Premier League. We can’t believe these are the great hope to get us out of the Championship. They need time and most likely to be blooded at a lower level. They’ll be lambs to the slaughter otherwise. 

Which players are you talking about? Monga, Evans, Aluko, Jayden Josheph all played at u21 level last season with the first 3 having cameos in the PL. Page had a run at u21 level and went unbeaten then got dropped back down again for no reason. Alves and Nelson were on loan in the championship last season and are definitely ready for that level.

 

So of the players above you can only attribute the performance of the U18s to Page and he proved himself at U21 level which outranks the U18s.

 

If the opposition are just going through the motions then surely our senior professionals should look even better but the reality is that the academy players are simply outperforming them.

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1 minute ago, Noahfence said:

I don’t think anyone’s suggesting we have a team full of 16-18 year olds but I would like to see them getting minutes 

I definitely am calling for them to be in and around the starting XI.

 

We need to play our best players irrespective of their age. Monga is arguably our best player despite being 16 and we were crying out for a centreback with Aluko's pace and reading of the game all of last season (and since Fofana and Soyuncu left in general). We were also calling out for a midfielder with technical ability plus physicality which we now have in Page. Evans is also our best striker in my opinion and has looked very mature in his appearances so far.

 

Seriously, if these academy players were all new signings and playing this way in pre season we would have no question of whether they should be competing for the first choice positions. We would also be saying this is one of the best transfer windows we've had in a while. It's only because our fans innately do not trust academy players that they are being written off as not ready.

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7 hours ago, Finnegan said:

I would absolutely love a generation of fantastic young players from our own academy. 

 

But I do think some of you need to calm down. Some of these kids are incredibly young and so far you've watched them play behind closed doors friendlies against two pub teams. 

 

I agree with this, but I think if we adopted a strategy where we used the talented young lads, cleared the decks and then used what money we had to buy a few of the best quality players we could buy in key areas of need, that would be the way to go. Having a squad full of average journeymen on big money is so wasteful, especially for a club in our situation.

 

I would be quite happy for us to get rid of as many as we can from Coady, Faes, Vestegaard, Justin, Kristianssen, winks, skipp, Soumare, Ndidi, ayew, bdcr and daka, and blow our whole budget on a few players - a striker and two midfielders ideally.

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16 minutes ago, dooflip said:

I agree with this, but I think if we adopted a strategy where we used the talented young lads, cleared the decks and then used what money we had to buy a few of the best quality players we could buy in key areas of need, that would be the way to go. Having a squad full of average journeymen on big money is so wasteful, especially for a club in our situation.

 

I would be quite happy for us to get rid of as many as we can from Coady, Faes, Vestegaard, Justin, Kristianssen, winks, skipp, Soumare, Ndidi, ayew, bdcr and daka, and blow our whole budget on a few players - a striker and two midfielders ideally.

Hansen: “You don’t win anything with kids.”

 

We know what happened there. If we had some sense at board room level we would see this as the greatest opportunity to sort our finance out and still be competitive. 
 

I couldn’t agree with you more.

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37 minutes ago, dooflip said:

I agree with this, but I think if we adopted a strategy where we used the talented young lads, cleared the decks and then used what money we had to buy a few of the best quality players we could buy in key areas of need, that would be the way to go. Having a squad full of average journeymen on big money is so wasteful, especially for a club in our situation.

 

I would be quite happy for us to get rid of as many as we can from Coady, Faes, Vestegaard, Justin, Kristianssen, winks, skipp, Soumare, Ndidi, ayew, bdcr and daka, and blow our whole budget on a few players - a striker and two midfielders ideally.

The problem is, it's not so easy to get rid of those players. We paid too much and gave too high wages to those wasters.

We signed Skipp for £20m over 5 years. If we sold him now we would need to get £16m to break even for accounting purposes, which no team apart from us would pay.

We can't just take the highest offer as a lot of posters suggest as we would eat a huge loss on this year's balance sheet. PSR means it would be better financially to keep him and never use him that to sell him if an offer for £10m came in. Sell him for £10m = £6m less to spend this year. Same situation with several other players. It's either a loan, use them or let them rot. PSR means you can't recover from poor recruitment unless you sort out dodgy deals with teams like Lyon

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51 minutes ago, chuck'em said:

The problem is, it's not so easy to get rid of those players. We paid too much and gave too high wages to those wasters.

We signed Skipp for £20m over 5 years. If we sold him now we would need to get £16m to break even for accounting purposes, which no team apart from us would pay.

We can't just take the highest offer as a lot of posters suggest as we would eat a huge loss on this year's balance sheet. PSR means it would be better financially to keep him and never use him that to sell him if an offer for £10m came in. Sell him for £10m = £6m less to spend this year. Same situation with several other players. It's either a loan, use them or let them rot. PSR means you can't recover from poor recruitment unless you sort out dodgy deals with teams like Lyon

Selling Skipp for £10mil would meaning 6 mil less we can spend this year but we get £10mil of PSR headroom for the years after.

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