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The easy way to sort this is to have Willy and No Willy toilets.

 

Either that or public buildings will need to have over a dozen different toilets, the majority of which are rarely used.

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Anecdote is not evidence, but I'm yet to hear from anyone whose opinion who I personally value who cares in the slightest about trans/toilets...

 

The bloke named in the thread is a bell. Needs help

 

 

Posted
1 hour ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

The easy way to sort this is to have Willy and No Willy toilets.

 

Either that or public buildings will need to have over a dozen different toilets, the majority of which are rarely used.

or option c) single occupancy fully enclosed washrooms with toilet and sink, as are common in new builds. Might not necessarily entirely practical in say sports stadiums but for businesses, cafes, restaurants, shops and the vast majority of places, entirely suitable.

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7 hours ago, Dunge said:

I think this case and those like it are indicative of the problem we have in modern society with social media. Twitter/X in particular is treated like chatting with fellow pub-goers whereas it’s actually like shouting something through a megaphone. Someone says what Linehan did at a pub, everyone ignores them and moves on. If they go to the clock tower and shout it through a megaphone, the police would get involved.

 

Context is the problem, and people not understanding that they’re essentially on a platform when they write these things. And there are so many of them on social media from across the political spectrum that I really don’t know what to do about it. Try to stop it and the police are overwhelmed and the populace get angry. Ignore it and you’re letting people get away with incitement to violence and that will get exploited by extremists. What is unfortunately clear is that a lot of people won’t self-regulate online.

The short burst character limit on there plays a huge part of the problem. Look on here- most comments are of reasonable length and can add description and context to opening gambits.

 

Constantly firing out "thoughts" in two sentences restricts that and condenses it all. As you say, take your time, step away and come back later. 

Posted
4 hours ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

The easy way to sort this is to have Willy and No Willy toilets.

 

Either that or public buildings will need to have over a dozen different toilets, the majority of which are rarely used.


 

can’t we just have   A few separate toilets ( like a disabled toilet) and just label them as Unisex toilets?  All have their own toilet, sink and door?

 

 

 I mean, it really shouldn’t be as difficult as we are making it out to be…

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4 hours ago, MPH said:


 

can’t we just have   A few separate toilets ( like a disabled toilet) and just label them as Unisex toilets?  All have their own toilet, sink and door?

 

 

 I mean, it really shouldn’t be as difficult as we are making it out to be…

I know places that have such and you get people queuing in corridors. Which is a small inconvenience, but I think you're overlooking how much the general public really hate small inconveniences.

Posted (edited)
10 hours ago, MPH said:


 

can’t we just have   A few separate toilets ( like a disabled toilet) and just label them as Unisex toilets?  All have their own toilet, sink and door?

 

 

 I mean, it really shouldn’t be as difficult as we are making it out to be…

Someone’s been in a brew dog pub recently 😉 

 

 

 

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17 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn0x2kx08wdo

 

Quite apart from being met by five armed fuzz coming off a plane, here's some more enlightening stuff Mr Linehan has been up to. 

I would advise waiting for the full facts of this case to emerge before rushing to judgment. The alleged victim is notorious for his harassment and abuse of women, some details of which I expect will emerge when Linehan's defence makes its case.

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Posted (edited)
17 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said:

I would advise waiting for the full facts of this case to emerge before rushing to judgment. The alleged victim is notorious for his harassment and abuse of women, some details of which I expect will emerge when Linehan's defence makes their case.

😂👏🏻👏🏻

Excellent use of “his”!!

Stand by for some serious challenge from the lefties!!

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17 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said:

I would advise waiting for the full facts of this case to emerge before rushing to judgment. The alleged victim is notorious for his harassment and abuse of women, some details of which I expect will emerge when Linehan's defence makes its case.

I'm curious to know exactly what mitigating circumstances short of direct self defence would justify harassment and damage/destruction of property of a member of a marginalised demographic by a well known public figure, but yes, I guess we'll see how the case pans out. 

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Posted
11 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

I'm curious to know exactly what mitigating circumstances short of direct self defence would justify harassment and damage/destruction of property of a member of a marginalised demographic by a well known public figure, but yes, I guess we'll see how the case pans out. 

The way it should pan out would be the judge saying….

” I have a two year backlog of serious crimes to deal with and you put this crock of shit in front of me in my court room.

Get out and never darken my door with such trivial tripe again.”

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Just now, TamworthFoxes said:

The way it should pan out would be the judge saying….

” I have a two year backlog of serious crimes to deal with and you put this crock of shit in front of me in my court room.

Get out and never darken my door with such trivial tripe again.”

So... open season on a marginalised demographic then. 

 

Glad to know where we stand. 

 

And to forestall an obvious response, I know the above wasn't said directly, however the inference was blatantly obvious. 

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Always amazes how it takes four or five police officers to go see someone when one maybe two community police would do. Why be so heavy handed!. They don't even send that many police for actual crimes. Its just a way to intimidate people. 

Posted
1 minute ago, foxy boxing said:

Always amazes how it takes four or five police officers to go see someone when one maybe two community police would do. Why be so heavy handed!. They don't even send that many police for actual crimes. Its just a way to intimidate people. 

It was at an airport. Aren't they all armed there? 

Posted (edited)
20 hours ago, The Doctor said:

as for Linehans arrest: if you believe that incitement to violence should be an offence, obviously he should have been arrested. You can argue the toss over whether words matter or whether police intervention should be reserved for likely action but you have to be consistent (see also Lucy Connolly last summer).

 

that said, nothing better in this situation than his substack about it, complaining his one bail condition is to stay off Twitter. Like, yer das been banned fae Twitter by the polis.

I think this is at the crux of the issue. Personally, I find the modern concept of ‘incitement’ ludicrous. At its heart is an assumption that human beings are essentially devoid of agency – that we’re so passive and suggestible that all it takes is a few angry words from somebody else on social media to compel us to act in ways we wouldn’t otherwise do. It’s a ridiculous idea, rooted in totalitarian thinking and deep hatred of free speech.

 

And if Linehan’s tweet is worthy of arrest, how about the dozens of activists who regularly march holding placards saying “Decapitate TERFS!” and “The only good TERF is a dead TERF” (the latter complete with a picture of a hangman’s noose and a dangling corpse)? Surely if Linehan’s ‘punch in the balls’ tweet is incitement, then threats to kill must be too? So I assume you agree that given that such placards are commonly seen at such marches, the police should routinely dispatch armed officers to these events and cart off anybody holding one of the offending signs?

 

Come to think of it, Bob Vylan should be arrested for his “Death to the IDF” chant at Glastonbury. And Jo Brand definitely needs to be banged up for her joke about threatening to throw acid in Nigel Farage’s face (as tempting a prospect as that may be). And what about Wes Streeting’s threat to push a Daily Mail journalist under a train? Surely he gets a visit from a bunch of armed coppers too?

 

Actually, this is already happening. Data from the Office for National Statistics has shown that an average of 30 people a day are arrested for online offences. We’re arresting more people for stuff they’ve written or said than the US did during the Red Scare. Do you really regard that as a positive social development?

 

If you believe that the arrest of Linehan was correct, then the only logical thing to do is to recruit thousands more officers to deal with the gargantuan task of policing the internet. Alternatively, we could accept that words expressed online are just words, and that the bar for ‘incitement’ should be set very high, enabling police officers to concentrate on solving actual crimes and protecting the public.

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2 hours ago, foxy boxing said:

Always amazes how it takes four or five police officers to go see someone when one maybe two community police would do. Why be so heavy handed!. They don't even send that many police for actual crimes. Its just a way to intimidate people. 

Airport arrest. Normally disproportionate - particularly post Manchester Airport incident. 

Especially when you consider the average arrest Police make from disembarking passengers (normally intoxicated)

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It turns out that the arrest of Linehan at Heathrow was at the behest of Lynsay Watson (aka Alex Harwood), a disgraced former Leicestershire police officer who was himself sacked in 2023 for harassment. This charming individual has a long history of using police forces to pursue vendettas against anybody who doesn't share his personal beliefs. Is this what we're coming to—allowing creeps like this to use the police as their personal militia?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/09/04/graham-linehan-accuser-is-disgraced-police-officer/?msockid=3727cb36c6a160961dcbde2cc76b615b

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32 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said:

It turns out that the arrest of Linehan at Heathrow was at the behest of Lynsay Watson (aka Alex Harwood), a disgraced former Leicestershire police officer who was himself sacked in 2023 for harassment. This charming individual has a long history of using police forces to pursue vendettas against anybody who doesn't share his personal beliefs. Is this what we're coming to—allowing creeps like this to use the police as their personal militia?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/09/04/graham-linehan-accuser-is-disgraced-police-officer/?msockid=3727cb36c6a160961dcbde2cc76b615b

Twice in a day with no come back at all. 👏🏻

Can only presume it is going over peoples heads. 

 

Posted
5 minutes ago, TamworthFoxes said:

Twice in a day with no come back at all. 👏🏻

Can only presume it is going over peoples heads. 

 

 

3 hours ago, leicsmac said:

So... open season on a marginalised demographic then. 

 

Glad to know where we stand. 

 

And to forestall an obvious response, I know the above wasn't said directly, however the inference was blatantly obvious. 

... and once the other way, too. :ph34r:

 

But, purely for the record, I am not sure anyone should trust the Telegraph on a topic like this anyway. 

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6 minutes ago, ozleicester said:

ffs are we still talking about this

Thread was started on Tuesday at 5pm, it’s now Thursday at 5pm.

If that’s a long time then avoid general chat, Brexit is mentioned daily!!! 😂

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