foxile5 Posted 24 January Posted 24 January Just now, LCFCCHRIS said: GET PEARSON OR O ONIELL PLEASE Pearson is too unwell and I'm not sure we're going to poach Celtic's interim manager to be our interim manager particularly when he left us to be their manager years ago because they're more important to him than us. 4
Popular Post Mickyblueeyes Posted 24 January Popular Post Posted 24 January Andy King, though I love him, cannot step into this job at this stage. He has 1 year experience and both with failing managers. He has been part of failing teams. It hardly ever works - especially with such limited experience. 6
daddylonglegs Posted 24 January Posted 24 January 2 minutes ago, nnfox said: Marti needs to go. Rudkin needs to go. Top needs to sell up and go ASAP. As a fanbase, we need to focus on one thing. This emotional "We played badly and lost so the manager has to go" might actually be counter productive. Think about it... Getting rid of Marti is better for Top and co than the club. Make no mistake, 23 games without a clean sheet is unacceptable, fitness levels are unacceptable, players' effort is unacceptable, tactics are atrocious and performances are getting worse with no sign of improvement. I'm firmly Marti Out but there are bigger issues with the club. Here's how it goes... Marti gets booted. Fans are appeased and go into a frenzy over who the next guy might be. Two weeks pass and a new manager is announced, a bargain basement, unproven gamble. Some fans are ok with it, others aren't but c'est la vie, everyone is a bit more upbeat and willing to give the new guy a chance. Another 4 or 5 games go by, maybe a win or two, but the same situation starts to play out with a lack of effort from players, tactical inefficiencies, a lack of goals (because we still won't possess a goal scoring striker) and bad goals being conceded. By then, the end of the season is in sight so let's reset in the summer. All of this time goes by Top is nowhere to be seen and is out of the firing line. Rinse and repeat. Nothing changes until Top is gone. The club has been a trainwreck since winning the FA Cup through half a dozen managers. If anyone seriously believes that the fortunes of the club take a serious upturn by the current leadership appointing another manager, then frankly, you are deluded. Well said. But we are so bad that those ‘one or two wins’ are absolutely critical now. No guarantee we can recover from another relegation. All focus needs to be on this season rather than protecting certain parties from blame.
Unabomber Posted 24 January Posted 24 January 9 minutes ago, Trumpet said: I’m not sure where Pearson is health wise, but we’d have very little to lose giving him a go and let’s be honest - he’s the kind of manager that this lot wouldn’t want. I’m all for it. Would certainly get the fans back on side 2
smudgerfox Posted 24 January Posted 24 January 3 minutes ago, nnfox said: Marti needs to go. Rudkin needs to go. Top needs to sell up and go ASAP. As a fanbase, we need to focus on one thing. This emotional "We played badly and lost so the manager has to go" might actually be counter productive. Think about it... Getting rid of Marti is better for Top and co than the club. Make no mistake, 23 games without a clean sheet is unacceptable, fitness levels are unacceptable, players' effort is unacceptable, tactics are atrocious and performances are getting worse with no sign of improvement. I'm firmly Marti Out but there are bigger issues with the club. Here's how it goes... Marti gets booted. Fans are appeased and go into a frenzy over who the next guy might be. Two weeks pass and a new manager is announced, a bargain basement, unproven gamble. Some fans are ok with it, others aren't but c'est la vie, everyone is a bit more upbeat and willing to give the new guy a chance. Another 4 or 5 games go by, maybe a win or two, but the same situation starts to play out with a lack of effort from players, tactical inefficiencies, a lack of goals (because we still won't possess a goal scoring striker) and bad goals being conceded. By then, the end of the season is in sight so let's reset in the summer. All of this time goes by Top is nowhere to be seen and is out of the firing line. Rinse and repeat. Nothing changes until Top is gone. The club has been a trainwreck since winning the FA Cup through half a dozen managers. If anyone seriously believes that the fortunes of the club take a serious upturn by the current leadership appointing another manager, then frankly, you are deluded. New manager - clean slate - we've seen it all before... 1
Popular Post FoxinNotts Posted 24 January Popular Post Posted 24 January Marti will get sacked on Monday. Kingy will be named 'interim'. We will get a points deduction next week. We won't be able to get another manager in, no one will want to come here. No new players in. Relegation. thats how its gonna go from here 8
Russell sprout Posted 24 January Posted 24 January 30 minutes ago, BrilliantFox said: People were saying this about Michael Carrick going to United. Look how thats worked out? No one is saying make King the permanent manager. We just need him temporarily to steady the ship. Silly comparison really, Man Utd squad compared to ours is chalk and cheese
King Claudio Posted 24 January Posted 24 January 13 minutes ago, Fox85 said: What evidence do you have that Andy King is a worse manager than Marti? Andy King might not be as experienced but I can guarantee he will get a tune out this team and put together decent results until the summer. I don't think you can guarantee that. He's a big part of the set up now so I can't imagine it would improve much of at all. 1
Cropwellfox Posted 24 January Posted 24 January Just now, FoxinNotts said: Marti will get sacked on Monday. Kingy will be named 'interim'. We will get a points deduction next week. We won't be able to get another manager in, no one will want to come here. No new players in. Relegation. thats how its gonna go from here Very likely
dmayne7 Posted 24 January Posted 24 January 16 minutes ago, SecretPro said: Eh? Weird hatred? What are you on about Clearly my post is saying: A. Too close to KP, won't end well, would tarnish his career B. Has no experience in this kind of situation, let alone management at all C. Is too nice for the job. Which is exactly what you said? **** me, people are getting really thick on here. . Well the way you articulated made it look like you are describing him as a yes man, who is somehow more responsible for the position we're in. To quote: 'Potentially the only thing worse than Marti is Andy yes sir 3 bags full sir I have zero experience and am really nice King.' So surely if you're just saying that he's too inexperienced, wouldn't you have just said that (in the way I did)? Rather than putting all that other bollocks in there that makes it sound like you hate him? So we might have meant the same thing, but we certainly didn't say it in the same way. Surely you can take a step back and see how that could be construed and even if you think I'm 'thick' for interpreting it that way, you can also see why I would have done so?
Fox85 Posted 24 January Posted 24 January 8 minutes ago, FoxinNotts said: In a relegation battle with the kids. As I said, we'll be going down We are in a relegation battle with OAPS currently and the OAPs and contract grabbers are the reason we are there. 1
Popular Post Vacamion Posted 24 January Popular Post Posted 24 January As much as one can feel sorry for a man earning big bucks, I feel a bit sorry for Marti, getting parachuted in with no pre-season, players having been transferred out and £0 in incoming transfers other than loans. But setting the team up to try to tiki-taka out of defence when we've got Stolarczyk and Okoli ready to fluff it, having Vestergaard lump long balls past Ayew, persisting with failing players, being ineffective at set pieces, selecting players out of position - It's not a tactical masterclass. You would at least expect a manager to inject some bite and snap, some enthusiasm, some heart, but some of our players drift through games anonymously, or are terrified of the ball, so we don't even have spirit to make up for shortfalls. I hate to ditch managers when they've been thrown under the bus by the hierarchy, but it's just not working. 9 1
Hales Posted 24 January Posted 24 January He isnt being sacked then......if Top had anything left about him he would be speaking to him now...... 1
jimsmallman Posted 24 January Posted 24 January Just now, Hales said: He isnt being sacked then......if Top had anything left about him he would be speaking to him now...... Clutching at straws here but Ryan Mason did a post match interview after playing us before he got fired.
Gamble92 Posted 24 January Posted 24 January 8 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said: Andy King, though I love him, cannot step into this job at this stage. He has 1 year experience and both with failing managers. He has been part of failing teams. It hardly ever works - especially with such limited experience. Agreed, Id hate for anyone to have to mention he relegated us alongside all he achieved.
Gamble92 Posted 24 January Posted 24 January 1 minute ago, Hales said: He isnt being sacked then......if Top had anything left about him he would be speaking to him now...... Only Forest's fat owner sacks anyone that quick 1
ClaphamFox Posted 24 January Posted 24 January 1 minute ago, Cropwellfox said: He is rambling completely incoherently - **** me He’s reached the point at which he knows he cannot turn it around but won’t resign for financial reasons, and is just waiting for the sack. When managers reach that stage, they just open their mouths and allow any old shit to come out. 1
fox_up_north Posted 24 January Posted 24 January 8 minutes ago, FoxinNotts said: Marti will get sacked on Monday. Kingy will be named 'interim'. We will get a points deduction next week. We won't be able to get another manager in, no one will want to come here. No new players in. Relegation. thats how its gonna go from here Positive. I like it. 2
Andrew Posted 24 January Posted 24 January There must be someone out there who can get a turn out of these players.
And Joachim goes throoough Posted 24 January Posted 24 January How are fans not calling for him to be sacked in the stands, far too acceptant
Freddy Posted 24 January Posted 24 January 1 minute ago, Andrew said: There must be someone out there who can get a turn out of these players. There is but not the next couple of managers, it'll maybe take a few more poor years, maybe a bit more heartache.
Paninistickers Posted 24 January Posted 24 January Just now, Andrew said: There must be someone out there who can get a turn out of these players. Hundreds, if not thousands, of coaches and managers - professional and amateur - could get this set of players into the play offs. The first very simple basic with a poor or a struggling team is - no bias - identifying the 10 fastest/Fittest/strongest/tallest players. Anyone outside of that 10 has to be very very good indeed to get considered. It really isn't as hard as the management (who seem to fetishise the slowest, smallest, weakest players) is making this. 2
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