Realistic Managerial Replacements

[ALC Fox]

I'm not sure there's a replacement that can succeed here currently. Not in the manner that we've been used to for the majority of this club's existence: challenging for promotion and re-establishing ourselves as a good top-flight team.

 

Success is negotiating another challenging period of financial instability. Much is speculated about King Power's financial woes since COVID, but I'm not entirely sure that they couldn't put us on an even keel if they really wanted to. The bigger problem is working within the constraints of the differing rules that the EFL and PL have imposed and continue to impose on us while rectifying the situation brought about by the club potentially flouting those rules while chasing Champions League football.

 

Within these restrictions, the academy is reaping the benefit of moving to Seagrave, and now becomes a very realistic resource of regularly producing quality talent that can form the spine of our first-team while also being used to help us get on and even keel through the sale of some of that talent.

 

But all of this is likely to result in a tumultuous period for the first team as we become a mediocre or poor Championship team, perhaps even a League One team, while our young players learn their trade on the job and we're unable to recruit quality experience at this level to push back up towards the top of the second tier.

 

These undulating fortunes will see several managerial casualties, which, if managed incorrectly by the board, could see plenty of players brought in who don't fit subsequent managers' styles of play and we could end up repeating our mistakes of overspending on talent we don't want or need.

 

So, success now, I think, is treading water while the finances are corrected. If that can be done under King Power, then I'll be back on board with them. But right now that doesn't appear to be the case. We need a manager who is willing to accept a longer stint in the division while we correct the club behind the scenes and who can keep us in the league and at a push go for the playoff spots. Who that guy is, I just don't know.

[Babylon]

6 minutes ago, Sunbury Fox said:

True, but he didn't inherit a dressing room full of arrogant overpaid players who think they should be playing in the PL or a top league in Europe.

He did, but it took him time to weed them all out. Not sure he's a quick fix, tactically he's never been amazing. What he's good at was creating an ethos around the club and having a core of reliable players that he brought in. All of that takes time, and money to sort out. 

 

No matter how much I love him, I think we need someone who can grind out results now. 

[Vowels]

14 minutes ago, Grebfromgrebland said:

We should just let  the players sort it out amongst themselves.

Well, it can't get much worse can it. I'm in favour.

 

 

[Samilktray]

Carlos Carvahal I reckon 

[MonarchFox]

Get Big Sam in till the end of the season

[jayfox26]

I personally don't think we should be looking long term. We need someone to come in and stabilise us, get us organised, improve the culture, get the players fitter, possibly on an 18 month contract (someone like Mowbray). We certainly should not be dishing out 3+ year contracts or we'll never get out of the cycle of paying managers off 

[Angus Scott]

27 minutes ago, BrilliantFox said:

Have you looked at the career histories of the managers we're linked to? King doesn't need to do much to surpass them. 

It's completely baffling to me that people think that King, who has only been a coach for 5 minutes & has shown nothing, is the man to sort out this complete basket of a team.

[FoxKent_88]

King has worked with RVN and Cifuentes. He could be part of the problem rather than the solution? We're about to find out I guess.

[David Hankey]

We've got coaches and players, let the sort in out until the end of the season. 

 

To get a manager in only to get rid in 6-12 months again is barmy.

[foxtillidrop]

We need a results driven manager who wants to keep clean sheets and pickup points.

 

Send players out on loan if they need developing for the future e.g. as we've done in the past with KDH, Barnes etc 

[teblin]

Listened to Rowetts interview with second tier pod, interesting at the end how he talks about the bigger picture and helping clubs plan for the future and bigger picture stuff. Also said he doesn’t just say we will play this way he’ll assess the squad etc…

 

speaks well, not sure he’s who I want so depressing to be where we are after everything.

 

I think he had more right to the job the marti ever did. 

Edited 26 January by teblin

[ClaphamFox]

42 minutes ago, BrilliantFox said:

Have you looked at the career histories of the managers we're linked to? King doesn't need to do much to surpass them. 

Mowbray and Rowett both have solid records at managing clubs in the Championship. Typically their teams tend to be hard-working and disciplined, and both are regarded as good motivators. Neither name excites me in the slightest and as recently as the summer I would have been horrified if we'd been linked with either of them, but right now a solid Championship manager who comes in and steadies the ship is as good as we're going to get.

 

We are already in a very precarious position and it will become even more precarious soon when the points deduction comes in. King has never managed and was part of the coaching staff under our last two managers, both of whom were disastrous. There is no evidence whatsoever that he'd be able to inspire and organise our squad of overpaid, under-motivated, mentally fragile players. He may turn out to be a fine coach or even a decent manager, but we don't yet know he'll be either. Trusting him over a candidate who has already proven that he can organise and motivate teams in this division would be an act of extraordinary self-sabotage—so extraordinary, in fact, that we are probably the only club around that would do something so ridiculous. 

Edited 26 January by ClaphamFox

[Muzzy_no7]

28 minutes ago, Stevosevic said:

He’s also much older now and football management is a draining job.

 

I doubt he has any interest in managing again at his age and his health issues he has overcome. 

Read the context of my post, I’m not suggesting Pearson. 

[Merchant_Banker]

1 hour ago, cityfanlee23 said:

At this point I'd take him. I'd imagine he has a pretty extensive knowledge of the best youth players in the country that are not quite breaking into the U21's but have huge potential, would also give us a bit more of a pull for some of the U21 players who are fringe at their clubs and need game time. 

I remember thinking exactly this when Peter Taylor came in. 

[winteriscoming]

Experience would suggest one of Mowbray, Hassenhutl or Carvahal. 
So expect us to announce Will Still. 

[Tommy Fresh]

Don't necessarily need to give Pearson the job, but would it be a terrible idea to try and get him involved in hiring a new one, we won't though as Top will just let Rudkin do what he ****ing likes

[DezFox]

2 hours ago, suffolk fox said:

It"ll be Gareth Southgate.

If Southgate and his team came in and they gave them full autonomy on football operations and culture I would be game for this. I know a lot would hate it 

[desertfox2]

Big Sam for me. We need his experience. The club is a mess and he knows how a football club should be run. Yes, it's not going to be a long term appointment but get him in to sort out the mess with a view to someone coming in after him once the ship is steady and he wants to retire again. We don't have the other staff in place to support someone learning the ropes. We need experience and someone that is no nonsense. 

[desertfox2]

30 minutes ago, Angus Scott said:

It's completely baffling to me that people think that King, who has only been a coach for 5 minutes & has shown nothing, is the man to sort out this complete basket of a team.

Exactly. It's not even just sorting out the team we need someone who can come in and sort out the way the entire club operates, it's a total mess. That will take someone experienced and with a big presence. 

Edited 26 January by desertfox2
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[VLC86]

In what alternate universe do people thing Sam Allardyce comes here in?

[Turtle27]

The more I think about it the more I think Gary Rowett is a good short term solution.

 

1) He knows the Championship well.

2) His teams are usually well drilled defensively, his teams were never well beaten.

3) He isn't afraid to change formation and adapt to the players he has

4)He has gone into other clubs who are on a downward spiral and stabilised and improved them. 

5) He is said to have strong man management with his team. 

6) Former Fox

 

I think although not a big name, he is what we need at this stage right now. 

 

 

[Foxdiamond]

2 minutes ago, Turtle27 said:

The more I think about it the more I think Gary Rowett is a good short term solution.

 

1) He knows the Championship well.

2) His teams are usually well drilled defensively, his teams were never well beaten.

3) He isn't afraid to change formation and adapt to the players he has

4)He has gone into other clubs who are on a downward spiral and stabilised and improved them. 

5) He is said to have strong man management with his team. 

6) Former Fox

 

I think although not a big name, he is what we need at this stage right now. 

 

 

As I doubt we can afford the compensation or prise him away I would like Mark Robins but failing that your argument for Gary Rowell looks convincing 

[Foxdiamond]

Just now, Foxdiamond said:

As I doubt we can afford the compensation or prise him away I would like Mark Robins but failing that your argument for Gary Rowell looks convincing 

Sorry for not typing Rowett

[FoxKent_88]

Supposedly interviewed Chris Wilder in the summer but they now decide it's someone exactly like him we need, beggars belief really. 

[teblin]

Problem with an interim appointment is what criteria makes it permanent. Top 6?