splinterdream Posted 14 February Posted 14 February 59 minutes ago, Sly said: I’ll say it again. Seagrave wasn’t built just to support and grow Leicester, and this always gets overlooked. Vichai had a dream. That dream was to grow sport within Thailand, powered by the King Power brand. Seagrave wasn’t build as part of this “Fox Hunt” project, as the long term plan was they’d get not just the best talents from Thailand, however the larger Asia region and we’d be sustainable long term not though acquisitions, however through selling great youth prospects. The issue I’ve always seen, is that’s it is a truly world class facility. However, does it have the right people running it to truly fulfil on the grand plan? If we sell Monga for £25m tomorrow, it will have covered it‘s running cost for “x” of years. What I also question now is, does Aiywatt, or King Power as a whole, have the same vision that Vichai had? We’ve lost some great people since our title win behind the scenes that will go unnoticed, as they are largely nameless. We don’t just need a competent first team coach / manager. If we truly want to be successful longer term, we need a complete setup of some of the best people at what they do in the world. If we built over the next 25 years and were a sustainable football club that was within the top 10 of the Premier League, participating in Europe etc, we build a bigger fan base and a larger commercial holding. I think the stadium plans were maybe a step too far and we’ve looked to run before we could run. We’ve put the brakes on that. Anything can grow if you water and feed it correctly. I thought seagrave was a result of us not being able to attract the best players whistle we were at the top, so therefore we planned on producing the best players by attracting top talent at a very young age.. Nevertheless you're spot on what you say about those running seagrave. I questioned this when it was built, if you have World class facilities, do you have workd class coaches? I'm not sure i agree the stadium plans were a step too far, at the time much needed, we shouldn't be where we are 2
Sly Posted 14 February Posted 14 February 1 minute ago, splinterdream said: I thought seagrave was a result of us not being able to attract the best players whistle we were at the top, so therefore we planned on producing the best players by attracting top talent at a very young age.. Nevertheless you're spot on what you say about those running seagrave. I questioned this when it was built, if you have World class facilities, do you have workd class coaches? I'm not sure i agree the stadium plans were a step too far, at the time much needed, we shouldn't be where we are I can see the argument on the stadium plans, as if we’d maintained or Stabalised, we’d fill the stadium. I mean, at the right price point, we’d fill it in league 2. We have a fan base. What we have is lots of people who currently feel disconnected and ripped off. 1
Popular Post Tuna Posted 14 February Popular Post Posted 14 February 2 minutes ago, RobHawk said: Big Nig Might want to correct the spelling there mate! 39
Wsl Posted 14 February Posted 14 February 21 minutes ago, Wasyls Pec Deck said: A few have commented on this, but I do wonder how much of next seasons parachute payment has been eaten up already though that loan secured on it. And to be fair (goes against the grain, but still) most owners loan their clubs huge sums that get paid back when the club is sold. Top/King Power International have converted around 318 million from loans owed to them by the club into shares/equity, so effectively writing those loans off. Doesn't make the club's present financial position rosy, obviously. But it is a difference from owners who borrow money to buy the club and hold a material chunk of the shares, and then have the club take on debt and the responsibility for servicing that debt through interest payments on those loans while taking huge dividends from their shareholdings..... Still, financially speaking we seem to be up the creek in a barbed wire canoe and without a paddle. 1
splinterdream Posted 14 February Posted 14 February (edited) 1 hour ago, Sly said: I can see the argument on the stadium plans, as if we’d maintained or Stabalised, we’d fill the stadium. I mean, at the right price point, we’d fill it in league 2. We have a fan base. What we have is lots of people who currently feel disconnected and ripped off. My wife is nagging me to book a holiday, she says she needs something to focus on, a point to look forward too. This is what aiyawatt hasn't figured out, he needed to show the fans he was reseting and give us something to focus on, a plan we can follow, I think having no plan, just chaos is why the fans are turning away. He foolishly thinks saying next season, we promote, the fans are gonna buy into that, we aren't, we need to know the finer details of how we're moving forward, but it has to start with John Rudkin not having any role in the running of Leicester City FC Edited 14 February by splinterdream 4
Chelmofox Posted 14 February Posted 14 February Sounding like a broken record, but we are 1 week away from a must win game and then Middlesborough away a few days later. Assuming not the single hint of a tangible rumour, there is no way we are hiring someone in time to take training and prep for those games. Someone would have to be with them and watching today, ready to take training Monday. Its going to be King for the next 2, and then if someone comes in they will have a couple of days prep for Norwich. I would put a bet on King taking that too. Brilliant isnt it. 1
winteriscoming Posted 14 February Author Posted 14 February I keep repeating myself but give it Mowbray until the end of the season.
UniFox21 Posted 14 February Posted 14 February Might as well just lock this thread until something happens 3
john ridley Posted 14 February Posted 14 February 3 hours ago, Wsl said: Next years payment around 40 million but then goes down to 20% of the share, so more than halves. Also haven't we earmarked then as security for the loans? In which case, we've already hocked those future payments so they won't be available for rebuilding. We only get 2 yrs this time because we were only in the prem for one year. 1
VLC86 Posted 14 February Posted 14 February 3 hours ago, Wsl said: Next years payment around 40 million but then goes down to 20% of the share, so more than halves. Also haven't we earmarked then as security for the loans? In which case, we've already hocked those future payments so they won't be available for rebuilding. 9 minutes ago, john ridley said: We only get 2 yrs this time because we were only in the prem for one year. Yep. I’ve said elsewhere, even if we stay up this season the squad will be significantly worse as we will still have no money to spend.
Salt_muncher Posted 14 February Posted 14 February I saw on the bookies that Ralph Hasenhuttl was favourite that can’t be realistic at all??
Heathrow fox Posted 14 February Posted 14 February 14 minutes ago, VLC86 said: Yep. I’ve said elsewhere, even if we stay up this season the squad will be significantly worse as we will still have no money to spend. Yet reading these pages posters still seem to think that there will be cash to buy transfers. If the club survive relegation i would expect another fire sale of anything of any worth and massive budget cuts. With the same top brass overseeing it. No reset like the summer of 1991.Or going into the season with real momentum like 09/10.Just a reliance on hit or miss loan signings and the grud that’s leftover. 2
Chelmofox Posted 14 February Posted 14 February 4 minutes ago, Heathrow fox said: Yet reading these pages posters still seem to think that there will be cash to buy transfers. If the club survive relegation i would expect another fire sale of anything of any worth and massive budget cuts. With the same top brass overseeing it. No reset like the summer of 1991.Or going into the season with real momentum like 09/10.Just a reliance on hit or miss loan signings and the grud that’s leftover. This is where the academy needs to come in to our long term planning, and anyone who we bring in has to be part of that journey. There is great talent there in each position. Use them, play them and develop then. Even in the very younger age groups there are gems coming through. 4
Aleksz Posted 14 February Posted 14 February 1 hour ago, winteriscoming said: I keep repeating myself but give it Mowbray until the end of the season. Can’t help but feel he’s still not well as you’d thought he’d of been a shoe in for some of the vacancies that have come up. Had said on Allardyce’s podcast late last year that he’s ready to go again
dooflip Posted 14 February Posted 14 February 48 minutes ago, Salt_muncher said: I saw on the bookies that Ralph Hasenhuttl was favourite that can’t be realistic at all?? I don’t think anyone, including the board know what’s going on tbh. Big Ralph is the bookies favourite, yet there’s articles claiming Dyche’s odds have slashed (they haven’t), that NP wants it, and last week Southgate was very short odds. 1
VLC86 Posted 14 February Posted 14 February 21 minutes ago, Chelmofox said: This is where the academy needs to come in to our long term planning, and anyone who we bring in has to be part of that journey. There is great talent there in each position. Use them, play them and develop then. Even in the very younger age groups there are gems coming through. I can’t think of many clubs that would have an academy that would field a competitive 11 at Championship level. The scenario you describe is exactly what I’m expecting next season, with a sprinkle of loan signings and the odd cheap free. We will drop (if we haven’t already). 1
Lad1966 Posted 14 February Posted 14 February (edited) Top not going to bring anyone in. He hoping King will step down, and then you will see his master plan come into play, with his lover boy Rudkin becomes manager, so he can play football manager and they will live happy ever after, whilst LCFC continues on its downward spiral. Edited 14 February by Lad1966
PaulW Posted 14 February Posted 14 February (edited) 1 hour ago, UniFox21 said: Might as well just lock this thread until something happens It's ok, we're grown ups, and can decide for ourselves. Edited 14 February by PaulW
MPH Posted 14 February Posted 14 February 2 hours ago, Salt_muncher said: I saw on the bookies that Ralph Hasenhuttl was favourite that can’t be realistic at all?? it’s mostly reactive to betting patterns, than any inside knowledge. 1
Lad1966 Posted 14 February Posted 14 February The only conclusion I can come to, is Top isn’t just a lazy fuxk, but he doing this on purpose. I mean. Everyone could see we needed a striker and lb in the transfer market, instead we players in every other position other than those. Now, everyone can see we need to get a proper manager in and Top and Rudkin are more concerned the next polo tournament, rather then getting a manager. He doing everything he can to get us relegated!
Les-TA-Jon Posted 14 February Posted 14 February 2 minutes ago, Lad1966 said: The only conclusion I can come to, is Top isn’t just a lazy fuxk, but he doing this on purpose. I mean. Everyone could see we needed a striker and lb in the transfer market, instead we players in every other position other than those. Now, everyone can see we need to get a proper manager in and Top and Rudkin are more concerned the next polo tournament, rather then getting a manager. He doing everything he can to get us relegated! Why would he do that? 1
Lad1966 Posted 14 February Posted 14 February 12 minutes ago, Les-TA-Jon said: Why would he do that? I don’t know, but everyone can see, what we needed and he don’t seems to be doing anything, despite everyone being proactive and doing everything in their means to survive
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