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Football Operations Revamp - Hiring Technical Director, CEO, and Commercial Director - Rudkin moving 'upstairs'

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Given where we are, we were never going to get a high profile tech director. (Plus working beneath rudkin). should have been done years ago. 

 

this fella could be decent but he could also be a nothing appointment. 

 

 

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31 minutes ago, The Doctor said:

his profile looks pretty good tbf, but when he's still reporting in to the world's most overpaid pe teacher, I don't hold hope for things to improve. Likelihood is he does 18 months and then moves on to pastures new having been frustrated with our way of working, like so many before him

I think this is key. If he is able to make decisions and influence change then fingers crossed it could be a decent appointment. If his influence and decision making is stymied by the worst DoF on the planet then I won’t hold my breath things will improve on the player recruitment front.

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It's slow progress but Top is doing what he said he would do. CV looks decent. This is a positive appointment and hopefully another step in the right direction. Do the BSLB still want us relegated? 

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Fella has a PhD in sport. 

 

Only blemish is that he was Head of Performance at Sunderland for one season - and they got relegated miserably. Can probably give him a pass as they were a basket case back then. 

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2 minutes ago, Torten said:

Fella has a PhD in sport. 

 

Only blemish is that he was Head of Performance at Sunderland for one season - and they got relegated miserably. Can probably give him a pass as they were a basket case back then. 

Errrmmmmmmmmm.... awkward 

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2 minutes ago, 21st Century Fox said:

I for one would like to wish James the best of luck at Chelsea next season.

He’s going to last that long with us 

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34 minutes ago, FoxKent_88 said:

It's slow progress but Top is doing what he said he would do. CV looks decent. This is a positive appointment and hopefully another step in the right direction. Do the BSLB still want us relegated? 

Can't speak for the other two but if relegation is the only viable route to King Power leaving then unequivocally yes.

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3 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Can't speak for the other two but if relegation is the only viable route to King Power leaving then unequivocally yes.

I struggle to see why relegation would make them walk away? Surely for both familial as well as financial reasons, relegation is very unlikely to make KP sell the club. Maybe I am missing something. :dunno:

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8 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

I struggle to see why relegation would make them walk away? Surely for both familial as well as financial reasons, relegation is very unlikely to make KP sell the club. Maybe I am missing something. :dunno:

Administration more likely if we go down and they have little choice then. A perilous position to be in but I repeat, if that's the only way KP go then i'd take that option as the future under them appears to me beyond bleak. Top's made it clear he's not interested in selling and I have it on very good authority there's been interest flatly turned down quite recently.

 

 

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I do understand where Ric and Jake are coming from but the thing is we don’t know whether they’ll go if we get relegated, it’s a risk I wouldn’t want to take with the financial issues we’ll have if we do. It was the massive reset we needed last time but the risk is way too high this time. 

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Just now, Katy said:

I do understand where Ric and Jake are coming from but the thing is we don’t know whether they’ll go if we get relegated, it’s a risk I wouldn’t want to take with the financial issues we’ll have if we do. It was the massive reset we needed last time but the risk is way too high this time. 

And I understand people who think differently but if you don't trust the current ownership are capable of the major change and rebuild and you don't think they'll sell either then this alternative is just as horrible.

 

I view purely as the path to them leaving soonest as what I want to happen. I predict administration, however awful that is for those effected if we do go down and then KP will have minimal choice as it's out of their hands.

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10 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

And I understand people who think differently but if you don't trust the current ownership are capable of the major change and rebuild and you don't think they'll sell either then this alternative is just as horrible.

 

I view purely as the path to them leaving soonest as what I want to happen. I predict administration, however awful that is for those effected if we do go down and then KP will have minimal choice as it's out of their hands.

But the only major concern is bankruptcy. That happens, we won't have a club at all and that'll be devastating. 

 

We have borrowed money against the parachute payments that would keep us alive in League One, from what I understand from others. Though there is a chance I have understood that wrong, but that is what the impression I get. 

 

Would relegation be worth the risk? 

 

I agree King Power/Tops time is over, and we need a change, but if rather do it with a club still here to support. 

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4 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

And I understand people who think differently but if you don't trust the current ownership are capable of the major change and rebuild and you don't think they'll sell either then this alternative is just as horrible.

 

I view purely as the path to them leaving soonest as what I want to happen. I predict administration, however awful that is for those effected if we do go down and then KP will have minimal choice as it's out of their hands.

Yep, I do get it. There are no real positive outcomes until KP sell or are forced out by us going into admin. I just worry that no one will want to take us on because of how much they’ll have to pump in to keep us viable. It’s grim all round. 

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1 hour ago, FoxKent_88 said:

It's slow progress but Top is doing what he said he would do. CV looks decent. This is a positive appointment and hopefully another step in the right direction. Do the BSLB still want us relegated? 

There is such a lens now on Top and Rudkin from external sources repeatedly.

WE got the 6pts penalty and form has fallen off a cliff, and the others at the bottom are starting to get results AND the next 3-4 fixtures are pretty tough.  Unless there is an immediate turnaround we will be a few pts adrift with about 10-12 games to go.

That finance podcast and the value of the club etc. along with the above no doubt is a prod for urgency even to those buffoons.

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5 minutes ago, fox_favourite said:

But the only major concern is bankruptcy. That happens, we won't have a club at all and that'll be devastating. 

 

We have borrowed money on parachute payments that would keep us alive in League One, from what I understand from others. Though there is a chance I have understood that wrong, but that is what the impression I get. 

 

Would relegation be worth the risk? 

 

I agree King Power/Tops time is over, and we need a change, but if rather do it with a club still here to support. 

Yes that is a very real risk if what Charlie Mevthan has said is accurate on us. But that's on the current ownership for putting us in this position and doing absolutely nothing about it until it's too late.

 

We need new ownership bottom line, if think our future is extremely bleak even if we somehow stay up (which we won't).

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Proof is in the pudding.

 

Macia, Sormaz, McGuinness are all good appointments and they jumped ship alarmingly quickly. Perhaps this chap will have the autonomy he needs that he’s isn’t blocked or strung along but I’m not convinced.

 

However at face value I’m happy.

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2 hours ago, fazzyfox said:

Could this be why the appointment of a manager has been delayed - to get him in first and for him to play a part in the choice or at least to bring the two in together as a reset?


 

yes. They were wanting a very public acknowledgement of the big reset

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5 minutes ago, Stadt said:

Proof is in the pudding.

 

Macia, Sormaz, McGuinness are all good appointments and they jumped ship alarmingly quickly. Perhaps this chap will have the autonomy he needs that he’s isn’t blocked or strung along but I’m not convinced.

 

However at face value I’m happy.

He will take one look at Rudkin in that green tracksuit and **** off….

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7 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Yes that is a very real risk if what Charlie Mevthan has said is accurate on us. But that's on the current ownership for putting us in this position and doing absolutely nothing about it until it's too late.

 

We need new ownership bottom line, if think our future is extremely bleak even if we somehow stay up (which we won't).

Oh I agree, new owners needed, but I think we have to at least try to avoid relegation (however unlikely it will be) so at least we have a better chance of having a club for someone to buy. I don't really fancy starting non league. 

 

What a complete joke we are.

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13 minutes ago, The boy Linacre said:

There is such a lens now on Top and Rudkin from external sources repeatedly.

I think this may be the key. There is such a loss of face, which is inportant to the Thais, that Aiyawatt must do something.

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4 minutes ago, fox_favourite said:

But the only major concern is bankruptcy. That happens, we won't have a club at all and that'll be devastating. 

 

We have borrowed money on parachute payments that would keep us alive in League One, from what I understand from others. Though there is a chance I have understood that wrong, but that is what the impression I get. 

 

Would relegation be worth the risk? 

 

I agree King Power/Tops time is over, and we need a change, but if rather do it with a club still here to support. 

Relegation needs to be avoided at all costs. The club will survive financially for 1 season in League 1 due to parachute payments but in the second season the parachute payments won't be there and the costs of running the club will be vastly greater than revenue and the club's value. So why would we not get promoted straight back to the Championship? Well we have 17 players out of contract at the end of this season who will all leave for free and will almost certainly be looking for other clubs in the Championship, abroad or the Premier League. There will be other players still in contract who will want to leave to play at a higher level than L1 and we won't be in a position to turn down fees for them. 

 

This means we will need almost a complete new squad on L1 wages and hope that they gel quickly. If we fail to get promoted at the first time of asking then we're into season 2 in L1 and then we will go into administration with a certain 12 point deduction which will kill off any hope of promotion. With administration the administrators will take over the running off the club and Top will be forced out empty handed. The administrators will then try and find a buyer for the most expensive to run club in L1 history with little value and huge debts. If we're lucky someone will buy the club for £1 and take on all the running costs and debts by putting their own money into it but given that the bar for PSR in L1 is so low I can't see that happening unless they sell Seagrave and move training back to Belvoir Drive which means kicking the women's team out assuming they don't cease to exist too. If no buyer can be found then the club goes bankrupt and out of existence.

 

If we stay in the Championship things will be very hard next season due to having to rebuild the team but at least the club will have a higher value and much more revenue than in L1. In summary relegation equals high chance of adminstration within 2 years whereas staying up equals the possibility of things being turned around

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1 hour ago, Stuckina Rut said:

Relegation needs to be avoided at all costs. The club will survive financially for 1 season in League 1 due to parachute payments but in the second season the parachute payments won't be there and the costs of running the club will be vastly greater than revenue and the club's value. So why would we not get promoted straight back to the Championship? Well we have 17 players out of contract at the end of this season who will all leave for free and will almost certainly be looking for other clubs in the Championship, abroad or the Premier League. There will be other players still in contract who will want to leave to play at a higher level than L1 and we won't be in a position to turn down fees for them. 

 

This means we will need almost a complete new squad on L1 wages and hope that they gel quickly. If we fail to get promoted at the first time of asking then we're into season 2 in L1 and then we will go into administration with a certain 12 point deduction which will kill off any hope of promotion. With administration the administrators will take over the running off the club and Top will be forced out empty handed. The administrators will then try and find a buyer for the most expensive to run club in L1 history with little value and huge debts. If we're lucky someone will buy the club for £1 and take on all the running costs and debts by putting their own money into it but given that the bar for PSR in L1 is so low I can't see that happening unless they sell Seagrave and move training back to Belvoir Drive which means kicking the women's team out assuming they don't cease to exist too. If no buyer can be found then the club goes bankrupt and out of existence.

 

If we stay in the Championship things will be very hard next season due to having to rebuild the team but at least the club will have a higher value and much more revenue than in L1. In summary relegation equals high chance of adminstration within 2 years whereas staying up equals the possibility of things being turned around

I don't think it'll take 2 years, you assume we have the parachute payment to rely on. The club have already secured a loan against that payment. So it's already allocated. If this is the case, administration might happen next season.  I just can't see anyone mad enough to take the amount of debt on.

 

Also building a squad, if there is money, would be harder to assemble as well. 

 

Bleak outlook 

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