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This stat really makes me angry, its not like we are top of the possession stats(8th) to use that as an argument.

 

It just backs up what we can see. Pathetic, lazy abject performances by people that earn more in a week that many people do in a year. 

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To those shouting down the supporters who are critical of the club, this is a much better measure by which to demonstrate the point many of us have than league position. 
 

Those defending Aiyawatt and the club think it is only about winning things (constantly banging on about the title win and FA cup) and league position. These metrics here are why this is no longer the Leicester City we all grew up with. 
 

Those who can’t see that Aiyawatt is responsible both in his own attitude and physical ability to run this club completely have their heads in the sand. He is entitled and never had to work hard in his life. Everything was handed to him on a plate. Is it any wonder he doesn’t understand effort and work rate, in order to instil a better culture around the club?

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Hopefully those stats last night shame the manager, coaching staff and the players and provokes some kind of reaction for what is left of this dismal season. 

 

Because that is embarrassing and unacceptable. I can accept us losing but not putting in a shift in and trying your heart out for the shirt properly grinds my gears. 
 

 

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Posted
23 minutes ago, teblin said:

This stat really makes me angry, its not like we are top of the possession stats(8th) to use that as an argument.

 

It just backs up what we can see. Pathetic, lazy abject performances by people that earn more in a week that many people do in a year. 

Pay the most, run the least. It’s a stat that reflects what many have said about arrogance, laziness, lack of effort and fight. Truly pathetic.

 

It really makes me think about boycotting the rest of the season let alone just yesterday ! 

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3 minutes ago, oundlefox said:

Hopefully those stats last night shame the manager, coaching staff and the players and provokes some kind of reaction for what is left of this dismal season. 

 

Because that is embarrassing and unacceptable. I can accept us losing but not putting in a shift in and trying your heart out for the shirt properly grinds my gears. 
 

 

Sadly, I suspect they were already aware.

 

Those metrics - distance covered and number of sprints are an easy stat to improve.  Aim to be number one in both, and results (and league position) will improve drastically.

 

When I used to coach grass roots youth football I always told my players that the result of the football match will largely be decided by what you do when you don't have the ball - how far and how fast you run to put the opposition under pressure, make them make mistakes and win the ball back.  It's absolute basics and at a mis-firing professional club, this needs addressing immediately.

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19 minutes ago, LCFCJohn said:

To those shouting down the supporters who are critical of the club, this is a much better measure by which to demonstrate the point many of us have than league position. 
 

Those defending Aiyawatt and the club think it is only about winning things (constantly banging on about the title win and FA cup) and league position. These metrics here are why this is no longer the Leicester City we all grew up with. 
 

Those who can’t see that Aiyawatt is responsible both in his own attitude and physical ability to run this club completely have their heads in the sand. He is entitled and never had to work hard in his life. Everything was handed to him on a plate. Is it any wonder he doesn’t understand effort and work rate, in order to instil a better culture around the club?

I agree that Top & Co have been very poor in setting high standards and demanding excellence from everyone connected to the club.  He's been too soft for too long and I don't think it's in his nature to be the tough guy we need.

 

That said, Marti is on the training pitch, with the players every day.  Responsibility for these stats lies with him and him alone, unless Top has explicitly said he wants the team to play walking football.

 

I've been one of Marti's supporters due largely to the poor hand he's been dealt and the shambolic way the club is run, but this stat is on him and makes me more sympathetic towards the Marti Out brigade.

 

Out of interest, does anyone know what QPR's stats in these areas were when Marti was there?

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8 hours ago, HarryTheGenie said:

It's been pretty obvious for a number of years (since we moved to the £100m 5 star hotel and health and wellness spa at Seagrave, ironically) that we haven't been anywhere near it fitness wise. We are outran and out-desired by every team we play. 

 

Steve Cooper had them fit and running for the short time he was here. If he stayed it may of gone a long way to having a chance of actually staying up.

 

I distinctly remember Dean Smith commenting on it when he arrived too.

 

It comes down to culture, leadership and desire... and we have none.

Cooper had the team running more but I felt he was approaching it from the wrong angle because that running was pulling everyone out of position, players weren't knowing where and when which of their teammates was supposed to run, unsurprisingly leaving us really vulnerable on transitions/counters, and in his five months he wasn't showing any signs of addressing those issues.

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I was more bothered by the sprints one than this to be honest. This is a symptom of the 'style' of play.

 

The sprints is inexcusable, and you can see it consistently when we lose the ball, people ambling to get back, massive gaps in midfield etc.

 

That's just a lack of care.

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Other than not putting in the same effort as other teams, are there any logical reasons why other teams might run more and have more sprints than us? 

 

I cant think of any that makes us look good.

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Simple way to solve the running issue, set the expectations.

 

Whatever you are short you come in to the training ground a run the on your day off.

 

Accountability, transparency.

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I don’t think we have seen a 90 minute performance this season. The statistics are worse than the results because we have a few players with a bit of quality that can do something unexpected . Whether it is lack of fitness confidence or both I don’t know but the inconsistency shows no sign of improvement. 

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We're just an embarrassment all round.

 

Lost count of the amount of times I've thought; "These are terrible, how does it seem they have an extra man on the pitch".

 

...guess this sort of stat will be a reason for that!

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8 hours ago, Bourbon Fox said:

 

Also that stupid goal kick routine where Nelson passes to Jakub can **** all the way off.

Ironic because we do this to compensate, I think, for Jakub's distribution. Then we end up passing it to Okoli who floats the ball up to our small wingers/forwards to lose battles against a taller defence. Gift possession away so regularly. 

 

30 minutes ago, AjcW said:

I was more bothered by the sprints one than this to be honest. This is a symptom of the 'style' of play.

 

The sprints is inexcusable, and you can see it consistently when we lose the ball, people ambling to get back, massive gaps in midfield etc.

 

That's just a lack of care.

Fuming when Hamza did this yesterday, on more than one occasion. It's like he gave up for a spell in the game for about 10 minutes. Then you could see the cogs tick in his brain 'shit I need to do something here and should probably defend'. 

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10 hours ago, Paninistickers said:

The manager could actually play players who are able to put in the miles, but chooses not to. 

 

A dyche character would immediately give the fittest/strongest/fastest players metrics to work to - and so take the pressure off a bit. 

 

Our manager prefers the weak, the lame, the asexual 

Sounds like a novel 😜

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44 minutes ago, dannythefox said:

This is all on the gaffer, imagine not running for Dyche or Wilder you simply wouldn’t be playing. 

 

42 minutes ago, nnfox said:

I agree that Top & Co have been very poor in setting high standards and demanding excellence from everyone connected to the club.  He's been too soft for too long and I don't think it's in his nature to be the tough guy we need.

 

That said, Marti is on the training pitch, with the players every day.  Responsibility for these stats lies with him and him alone, unless Top has explicitly said he wants the team to play walking football.

 

I've been one of Marti's supporters due largely to the poor hand he's been dealt and the shambolic way the club is run, but this stat is on him and makes me more sympathetic towards the Marti Out brigade.

 

Out of interest, does anyone know what QPR's stats in these areas were when Marti was there?

Just quoting Dannythefox as well as both points relate to the manager. These types of problems seem to have existed under numerous managers.

 

So it can be true that if you had a Dyche type character it might be better (and therefore on Cifuentes to a large extent also) whilst being a problem firmly at Aiyawatt’s door as well. He is choosing the managers and direction of the club. If he wished to instil a tougher, hard working culture in the club, he could do so and appoint managers and staff (such as fitness and conditioning staff) accordingly. 

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The stats don’t lie. I saw with my own eyes that our players are not sprinting enough and getting to the ball first or closing players down and staying close to them. West brom players were out working our lot and hunting in packs to recover the ball. Marti also needs to feed fresh ideas to the players. They look clueless too many times. I often wonder WTF they do in training all week!

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10 minutes ago, StanSP said:

Fuming when Hamza did this yesterday, on more than one occasion. It's like he gave up for a spell in the game for about 10 minutes. Then you could see the cogs tick in his brain 'shit I need to do something here and should probably defend'. 

100% happens all the time.


I think he excluded Faes because of how often he did it.

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11 hours ago, Spiritwalker said:

We must be top of the ambling stats.

Very true I used to think it was Soumare was terrible for this but Monga last night on multiple occasions not striding out to support a forward movement. Ben Nelson makes more striding forward runs these days. This one is down to the coaching staff low work rate has been a Leicester feature now for a long time the exact opposite of what won us the PL title. 

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I'd like to see the stats for duels across the league this season. I know we were outfought in all areas last night by WBA, and I suspect this is the case in pretty much all of our games and is a large factor in why we concede so much.

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