Stoke 2-2 LCFC, post-match thread

[MC Prussian]

Mukasa head and shoulders above Daka (remember, £23m transfer fee and about £3.4m in wages per year) and Ayew (£5m transfer, £2.3m in wages per year; the latter isn't a striker, in all fairness). Also puts Mavididi (£6.8m transfer fee, reported £500'000 a year on wages) and Monga to shame. 2 goals and 2 assists in two games.

 

At least we stuck in, Winks with a great goal that somewhat makes up for his lacklustre attitude beforehand.

 

We need a fit Jordan James back so badly. And a back four that deserves that name.

 

And that bad record continues: 30 LEAGUE GAMES WITHOUT A CLEAN SHEET

Edited 22 February by MC Prussian

[Chelmofox]

1 minute ago, RowlattsFox said:

Maybe harsh for the 2nd but the ball landing in the six yard box for both goals is poor from the keeper. 

Not sure why we are playing Begovic. Poor. 

[MPH]

I hate to say it, because I really want to hate him

 

but having winks back is a little bit like a new signing.. he’s improved the middle of the park. Has a good sharp pass that we have missed. And seems to want to fight right now. Let’s hope it stays this way.

[hackneyfox]

1 hour ago, Pliskin said:

Fans chanting “we are staying up” at Stoke away, **** me…… should have been chanting solidly “king power out” for 90.

Do you not think they should be supporting the team? Being the 12th man.

‘Fans’ like you are no help at games. 
Do what you want on the match but support the team when inside the ground.

Edited 21 February by hackneyfox

[CPepFox]

1 hour ago, kingfox said:

FFS Luke Thomas, Ayew would’ve scored that header.

Nah, Ayew would have fallen over 25 yards outside the box and been looking for a foul.

[kiddo]

Why can't we stop crosses coming in? Every team does it against us, but we can't seem to work out how to get close and get a foot in the way. 

 

Job for Mr. Rowett there.

[Les-TA-Jon]

7 minutes ago, MC Prussian said:

Mukasa head and shoulders above Daka (remember, £23m transfer fee and about £3.4m in wages per year) and Ayew (£5m transfer, £2.3m in wages per year; the latter isn't a striker, in all fairness). Also puts Mavididi (£6.8m transfer fee, reported £500000 a year on wages) and Monga to shame. 2 goals and 2 assists in two games.

 

At least we stuck in, Winks with a great goal that somewhat makes up for his lacklustre attitude beforehand.

 

We need a fit Jordan James back so badly. And a back four that deserves that name.

 

And that bad record continues: 30 LEAGUE GAMES WITHOUT A CLEAN SHEET

Think it’s ‘only’ 27 games without a clean sheet? In a row that is. 

[Wink84]

Enough positives to show that Rowett could get enough out of this lot to stay up. Thats all I can ask for after at most 3 training sessions with the squad and losing two Ghanian superstars from the squad.

[oxtonfox]

He’ll, how did we miss those last minute chances? This side never ceases to disappoint us. A great chance of getting out of jail given most of our rivals bar Baggies have won or are winning. 

Fair play to Mukasa though, he was excellent and a cut above this level. 

[Chrysalis]

Our fans cursed it when they started singing we staying up with 20 mins to go, they thought the win was in the bag.

Edited 21 February by Chrysalis

[shen]

24 minutes ago, MPH said:

I hate to say it, because I really want to hate him

 

but having winks back is a little bit like a new signing.. he’s improved the middle of the park. Has a good sharp pass that we have missed. And seems to want to fight right now. Let’s hope it stays this way.

And he brought a quality finish with him today which we're sorely missing when JJ is out.

 

Sometimes Winks feels similar to Tielemans in that he clearly has the quality of a difference maker, but can come across as lazy or lacking commitment. 

[Corky]

Second half was an improvement but our defence will send us down.

[Sol thewall Bamba]

46 minutes ago, MC Prussian said:

Mukasa head and shoulders above Daka (remember, £23m transfer fee and about £3.4m in wages per year) and Ayew (£5m transfer, £2.3m in wages per year; the latter isn't a striker, in all fairness). Also puts Mavididi (£6.8m transfer fee, reported £500000 a year on wages) and Monga to shame. 2 goals and 2 assists in two games.

 

At least we stuck in, Winks with a great goal that somewhat makes up for his lacklustre attitude beforehand.

 

We need a fit Jordan James back so badly. And a back four that deserves that name.

 

And that bad record continues: 30 LEAGUE GAMES WITHOUT A CLEAN SHEET

If we can get James in for Skipp with 10 games to go we could be alright.

[Dmitry]

51 minutes ago, Chelmofox said:

Not sure why we are playing Begovic. Poor. 

Saved us from defeat today again.

 

[Clever Fox]

2 hours ago, teblin said:

One of Okolis better games.

Rowett seemed to have improved him already. His passing was so much better 2nd half.

[LCFCJohn]

Just confirms we are down for me.

 

I can’t believe how many people are getting excited that we scraped a draw with Stoke B team (10 out injured). Oxford have fought draws out at Coventry and Middlesbrough. Portsmouth have won comfortably away at Charlton and Millwall. Blackburn away at QPR at against play off pushing Preston. We are getting more cut adrift by the day, every time we or a relegation rival play. West Brom losing is the only positive. 
 

Our attacking output is fine. But we are conceding minimum 2 goals per game. Having to score at least 2 for a draw and at least 3 to win a game is a hopeless situation to be in. 
 

Not on Rowett. He has been brought in too late with the damage done. No doubt he will be the human shield for those responsible and be blamed but it’s not on him. 

[Dmitry]

Abhorrent first half; much better afterwards. Should’ve won.

Awful defending again, which isn’t a surprise to anyone. At this level, one on one marking should be a given, but these fullbacks and centers routinely lose their man from set pieces. They just aren’t good enough to give us a clean sheet, the whole back line. 
Keeper did well today; wish we had him in place of the dreadful Danny; would’ve stayed up. 

 

[Tielemans63]

16 minutes ago, Corky said:

Second half was an improvement but our defence will send us down.

That's exactly what I think. It's still 2 goals conceded for the millionth game in a row and we're still in the bottom 3. Rowett is a miracle worker if he can do anything at all with our 'defence'.

[Gamble92]

1 hour ago, MC Prussian said:

Mukasa head and shoulders above Daka (remember, £23m transfer fee and about £3.4m in wages per year) and Ayew (£5m transfer, £2.3m in wages per year; the latter isn't a striker, in all fairness). Also puts Mavididi (£6.8m transfer fee, reported £500000 a year on wages) and Monga to shame. 2 goals and 2 assists in two games.

 

At least we stuck in, Winks with a great goal that somewhat makes up for his lacklustre attitude beforehand.

 

We need a fit Jordan James back so badly. And a back four that deserves that name.

 

And that bad record continues: 30 LEAGUE GAMES WITHOUT A CLEAN SHEET

Honestly think you could say they're all below the level of what you'd describe as mid table championship players. Without looking I bet there is players that cost £500,000-£1m who have more goals and assists than all 3. That should embarrass them. 

 

That old saying, skill without will. Talent without hard work means nothing. 

 

We all kind of expect it from a few players in every squad because that's where we are at with modern professional football. But we have about 15 of them. 

[Nolucklcfc]

Do we know how long Fatawu is out for? 

[Gamble92]

N'zonzi and Aaron Cresswell. Just heard these names mentioned. As good as the second half was, the fact we are in this position content with a point against players I associate with being decent ten years ago is ****ing criminal. 

 

You cannot operate on the wage structure we do and finish anywhere near where we are. But yet again Leicester find a way don't they. I ****ing despair. 

[Leicester_Loyal]

You can’t concede 2 every game and expect to win. 
 

We’re ****ed until that stops. 

[Gamble92]

Just seen Mark Robins interview. I like him, but I hate when managers talk about a game like everything that went against them was a cheap goal or shouldn't have happened and everything they did was great. 

 

He talks about they should have been more than 1-0 up and says our goals were poor, yet their goal comes from poor defending. You can say that about most goals, especially at this level. Their other "chances" in the first half weren't nearly as clear as the ones we missed at the end. 

 

I wouldn't mind it if we didn't have like 3 or 4 more unbelievable chances in the second half. 

 

Prefer it when managers just say it like it is. They were much better first half and we were much better second. But don't pretend you're hard done by Mark. 

[Blue.Fox84]

Mixed feelings tbh 

 

Poor start again and arguably could and should have been 2/3 goals down - Stoke have been goal shy lately and have players out, another day or against a better opposition you get punished for them. 
 

Credit to come back into the game and to take a lead but weak mentality to throw away what could be a valuable 2 points come the end of the season. 
 

Can only judge Rowett on his game management, nothing too concerning or to be too excited about at the moment but encouraging that there was a response at HT. He’s got a tough job on his hands and a lot will depend on how well the team seem drilled over the next few weeks. A lot of attention around King on this too being Head Coach, we’ve looked poor since he’s been here as this is now his 3rd manager after a disastrous spell as interim too

 

Monga missing - offered nothing majority of the game

VK - terminate his contract, high wages, unlikely to sell and never fit 

Mavididi- needs dropping, offering very little within the game in possession, poor in front of goal and selfish/poor decision to try and press their CB in the buildup to Stokes 2nd 

Daka - Can’t wait for him to go. Apart from running around he gives the team nothing - how much money we give him is a disgrace. Majority of the time offside - either in behind or dropping to receive (fast enough to give himself a yard or two and shows he switches off to be offside when receiving), weak as piss, can’t score, plays off 1 touch and majority of the time gives the ball away or hospital pass to team mates, no outlet at all with him that just invites pressure for the rest of the team

 

Hopefully JJ is back soon, maybe in the 10 and worth trying Mukasa as the 9? 🤷‍♂️

[Pliskin]

2 hours ago, hackneyfox said:

Do you not think they should be supporting the team? Being the 12th man.

‘Fans’ like you are no help at games. 
Do what you want on the match but support the team when inside the ground.

Unless we make a stand, there will be no Leicester to support. 
 

My personal stance is clear, King Power out at all costs. 
 

And I’m not ashamed to admit I don’t really care about this team, I cant get behind them, because I don’t like them and actively just can’t bond with them. My relationship has been ruined thanks to our ownership, and I probably won’t find that passion for the club again until they’re gone. I can’t remember the last time I celebrated a goal, I’m just numb to this team and feel nothing but disdain towards them. 

 

As I said recently, ‘fans’ come in all forms, and for me I’d rather protest against the current ownership because it’s my opinion if they remain in charger, we will go bust. I don’t believe we will stay up, I think the damage is already done and we will just limp to relegation. So for me, my priority is ensuring we do all we can to remove King Power.