"Evolved" Leadership Structure To Drive Long-Term Stability & Success

[CosbehFox]

20 hours ago, Blue ROI said:

How convenient this is announced before our next game which is away.

How convenient every announcement or action has been swiftly conducted after a game which involved fan discontent. 
 

Thailand interview - Norwich away 

Local interview - WBA & Oxford home 

Evolve - Norwich home 

[john ridley]

15 minutes ago, CosbehFox said:

How convenient every announcement or action has been swiftly conducted after a game which involved fan discontent. 
 

Thailand interview - Norwich away 

Local interview - WBA & Oxford home 

Evolve - Norwich home 

Gonna be pretty  busy over the next few weeks then .🤣🤣🤣

[Clever Fox]

On 05/03/2026 at 12:48, Broof said:

I thought Whelan leaving was because of a power struggle between her and Rudkin. Basically it's either him or me and he won.

 

I can't remember where I picked this up from though. 

You are correct, That's part of it. She like Pearson never thought much of Rudkin.  She advised against the pcr overspend but Top sided with Rudkin as you said.

This would never have happened when Vichai was there, as she was the Financial brains behind the KP operations.

 

She was also being coveted by the Irish Government where she's now a Business Ambassador for the Irish Government.

[NextPlease]

7 hours ago, CosbehFox said:

How convenient every announcement or action has been swiftly conducted after a game which involved fan discontent. 
 

Thailand interview - Norwich away 

Local interview - WBA & Oxford home 

Evolve - Norwich home 

Thailand interview was recorded before Norwich away

 

Media interviews were planned before the  Oxford game was played 

 

You know this, so stop suggesting a connection which isn’t true 

[Clogger_]

1 hour ago, NextPlease said:

Thailand interview was recorded before Norwich away

 

Media interviews were planned before the  Oxford game was played 

 

You know this, so stop suggesting a connection which isn’t true 

Ah, a KPFC

[Aussie Flash]

Management technobabble. Has the imprint of AI all over it.  Been a fan for 70 years.  How could City,s fortunes have sunk so low.

[inckley fox]

3 hours ago, NextPlease said:

Thailand interview was recorded before Norwich away

 

Media interviews were planned before the  Oxford game was played 

 

You know this, so stop suggesting a connection which isn’t true 

It does look a bit like that though. You'd have to be a tad daft to think that they weren't scrambling to address the discontent.

 

That they've done such a remarkably miserable job of it is another matter entirely.

 

As far as highlights of their 'reconnect with the proles' campaign go, I really did like the bit where the chairman recorded a media interview designed to be released over the course of several weeks about an hour before he fired the manager, and therefore rendered almost everything he'd said irrelevant. That'd also be the one where he also said we could still get promoted.

 

O'Neill once remarked that there were teenagers out there who could do a better job than Barrie Pierpoint. If there were any truth in that, then there are slobbering four year-olds who'd be less damaging to the club than Top.

 

Those who still feel some kind of nonsensical loyalty to the family, on the grounds that Vichai did a sound enough job, are a bit like 17th century Spanish monarchists who held out that Carlos the Mad probably wasn't going to wreck their nation (even though it was clear to everyone else in the world that he was). Even when it became clear that there was no hope, they clung on, because they'd nailed their colours to the mast and, regardless of the undeniable evidence before them, felt they'd look like cowards if they confessed the glaringly obvious. 

 

Like King Philip and his useless son, there is no argument left to defend the current owner, other than that his Dad was probably a lot better than him. And that isn't really an argument.

[CosbehFox]

7 hours ago, NextPlease said:

Thailand interview was recorded before Norwich away

 

Media interviews were planned before the  Oxford game was played 

 

You know this, so stop suggesting a connection which isn’t true 

You can have plans and they can be pushed through without considered thought. 
 

All three have the feeling of rushed and not really considered any consequences in how they presented. 
 

And I did say the local interviews were the reaction to WBA home too 

Edited 7 March by CosbehFox

[Winstonthedog]

It's a jobs for the boys restructure.... with the ultimate aim of turning the ground into the largest Chang warehouse in the world 

[Stuntman_Mike]

Talking of drive for success, I really hope we beat Forest U21's in the EFL trophy.

 

[NextPlease]

On 07/03/2026 at 00:08, Clogger_ said:

Ah, a KPFC

Perhaps its because many of the protestors weren't old enough to remember the Milan Mandaric era, but we have faced the prospect of League One before and suffered relegation, yet he didn't receive the level of criticism thrown at our current owners.

 

At that time he swerved making transfers which could have kept us up in an era when PSR hadn't been invented but refused to do so. Our current owners are juggling trying to avoid further sanctions, yes they have made poor calls on players wages (every club has a hit & miss situation on transfer business and go through spells of getting many right and then getting many wrong), but unlike Everton & Forest fans, our fans have never been vocal about the unfairness of PSR (a few notable exceptions recently on here) or recognise we were the first to be hamstrung by the restrictions due to our success, but other clubs will follow overtime.

 

Also, reporting has been misleading, how many have banged on about Winks being on £90k/week, to only now discover in reports this week he is on less than half of this ?

 

My hope is the recent announced changes with the Sporting Director and Commercial Director, will bring the needed refresh in thinking, but they both need to be given time to have an impact, so that as a minimum would be one full season

[LCFCJohn]

19 minutes ago, NextPlease said:

Perhaps its because many of the protestors weren't old enough to remember the Milan Mandaric era, but we have faced the prospect of League One before and suffered relegation, yet he didn't receive the level of criticism thrown at our current owners.

 

At that time he swerved making transfers which could have kept us up in an era when PSR hadn't been invented but refused to do so. Our current owners are juggling trying to avoid further sanctions, yes they have made poor calls on players wages (every club has a hit & miss situation on transfer business and go through spells of getting many right and then getting many wrong), but unlike Everton & Forest fans, our fans have never been vocal about the unfairness of PSR (a few notable exceptions recently on here) or recognise we were the first to be hamstrung by the restrictions due to our success, but other clubs will follow overtime.

 

Also, reporting has been misleading, how many have banged on about Winks being on £90k/week, to only now discover in reports this week he is on less than half of this ?

 

My hope is the recent announced changes with the Sporting Director and Commercial Director, will bring the needed refresh in thinking, but they both need to be given time to have an impact, so that as a minimum would be one full season

Most of us were around during the administration/Mandaric and relegation to L1 era. It’s not compatible because we were tanked from a position of strength by Mandaric. We were struggling after administration and starting at L1 when he took over so not investing enough to prevent the slide is different to actively causing the fall we have seen which is what Aiyawatt has done. 
 

As for the rest of the post, just very naive in my opinion. There clearly isn’t going to be any change for the better. It is lipstick on a pig/rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic. Whichever analogy you prefer.

[Bourbon Fox]

On 06/03/2026 at 15:03, CosbehFox said:

How convenient every announcement or action has been swiftly conducted after a game which involved fan discontent. 
 

Thailand interview - Norwich away 

Local interview - WBA & Oxford home 

Evolve - Norwich home 

To be fait they were ready to announce 2 months ago and were waiting for a win but couldn't wait forever...

[Donwebbio]

How about the recruitment department? That has escaped the reshuffle. As bad as Rudkin has been and of course he is a shambles of a DoF, as bad an owner as the Nepobaby has been, recruitment had been our major flaw. Maybe Glover compiles page after page of superb prospects from his global scouting network only to president them to Rudkin who looks at them briefly before popping them into the shredder and calling his favourite agent. But Glover must either be a flaccid yes man or a shite Recruitment head. These permanent signings have killed us aling with a fair few loan mistakes: 

 

Tielemans 

Perez

Praet

Justin

Hirst

Castagne
Fofana

Daka
Soumare
Vestergaard

Faes

Smithies

Kristiansen

Souttar

Winks

Coady

Hermansen

Mavididi

Cannon

Fatawu

Golding

Okoli

Skipp

El Khannouss

De Cordova-Reid

Ayew

Begovic

Vieites

Lascelles

 

Good clubs must target a success rate of 4 good signings out of 5 which provide a return on the pitch and generate profits for future signings. What is Glover's hit rate? 2 in 5? 

[Clogger_]

1 hour ago, NextPlease said:

Perhaps its because many of the protestors weren't old enough to remember the Milan Mandaric era, but we have faced the prospect of League One before and suffered relegation, yet he didn't receive the level of criticism thrown at our current owners.

 

At that time he swerved making transfers which could have kept us up in an era when PSR hadn't been invented but refused to do so. Our current owners are juggling trying to avoid further sanctions, yes they have made poor calls on players wages (every club has a hit & miss situation on transfer business and go through spells of getting many right and then getting many wrong), but unlike Everton & Forest fans, our fans have never been vocal about the unfairness of PSR (a few notable exceptions recently on here) or recognise we were the first to be hamstrung by the restrictions due to our success, but other clubs will follow overtime.

 

Also, reporting has been misleading, how many have banged on about Winks being on £90k/week, to only now discover in reports this week he is on less than half of this ?

 

My hope is the recent announced changes with the Sporting Director and Commercial Director, will bring the needed refresh in thinking, but they both need to be given time to have an impact, so that as a minimum would be one full season

A lot of words amounting to a pathetic apology for the incompetent KP regime, I'm afraid - coupled with the usual ageism

[Chrysalis]

1 hour ago, NextPlease said:

Perhaps its because many of the protestors weren't old enough to remember the Milan Mandaric era, but we have faced the prospect of League One before and suffered relegation, yet he didn't receive the level of criticism thrown at our current owners.

 

At that time he swerved making transfers which could have kept us up in an era when PSR hadn't been invented but refused to do so. Our current owners are juggling trying to avoid further sanctions, yes they have made poor calls on players wages (every club has a hit & miss situation on transfer business and go through spells of getting many right and then getting many wrong), but unlike Everton & Forest fans, our fans have never been vocal about the unfairness of PSR (a few notable exceptions recently on here) or recognise we were the first to be hamstrung by the restrictions due to our success, but other clubs will follow overtime.

 

Also, reporting has been misleading, how many have banged on about Winks being on £90k/week, to only now discover in reports this week he is on less than half of this ?

 

My hope is the recent announced changes with the Sporting Director and Commercial Director, will bring the needed refresh in thinking, but they both need to be given time to have an impact, so that as a minimum would be one full season

You think the reason we want him gone is merely because of relegation to League one?

For reference I was very much around during Milan's ownership.

[inckley fox]

2 hours ago, NextPlease said:

Perhaps its because many of the protestors weren't old enough to remember the Milan Mandaric era, but we have faced the prospect of League One before and suffered relegation, yet he didn't receive the level of criticism thrown at our current owners.

 

At that time he swerved making transfers which could have kept us up in an era when PSR hadn't been invented but refused to do so. Our current owners are juggling trying to avoid further sanctions, yes they have made poor calls on players wages (every club has a hit & miss situation on transfer business and go through spells of getting many right and then getting many wrong), but unlike Everton & Forest fans, our fans have never been vocal about the unfairness of PSR (a few notable exceptions recently on here) or recognise we were the first to be hamstrung by the restrictions due to our success, but other clubs will follow overtime.

 

Also, reporting has been misleading, how many have banged on about Winks being on £90k/week, to only now discover in reports this week he is on less than half of this ?

 

My hope is the recent announced changes with the Sporting Director and Commercial Director, will bring the needed refresh in thinking, but they both need to be given time to have an impact, so that as a minimum would be one full season

It's nice to see some optimism, even if I feel it's unfounded!

 

Mandaric, as has been pointed out, took charge of a club already in a relegation scrap in 2006/07. There was investment the following summer - Clemence and Campbell were both fairly high profile acquisitions - it was just poor recruitment. You're wrong to say that Mandaric wasn't criticised by the fans, but it wasn't for limited recruitment so much as for the chaotic merry-go-round of managers. That's what got us relegated.

 

But the comparison falls apart when you consider that we were, what, 16th or 17th in the second tier when Mandaric took charge, versus 5th when KP came in. As for Top, he initially led the takeover, made a mess of it, and when he took the reins after Vichai's passing we were a top half PL side which had won the EPL a few years prior. So the tumble down to a second tier relegation dogfight is a hell of a lot worse than the collapse under Mandaric who did, after all, oversee a return to us pushing for top flight promotion thereafter.

 

I think a lot of fans remember this, and feel that Top fares quite poorly out of that comparison, for all of Mandaric's many, many flaws. There are also plenty on here who remember our near-extinction post-Elsom, the Shipman era before that, and - in some cases I'm sure - his dad before that (even if I wasn't around).

 

If you think Top's getting a rough ride, you should ask these fans how kind they were to Terry Shipman, a Leicester fan from birth who helped run the club for decades - including periods of prolonged success when his Dad was above him on the board as chairman, much like Top. A period when we once broke the UK transfer record. Fast-forward to the second tier survival battle under Terry in 1990/91 and there were planes. Protests. Stay-aways. Bricks thrown through the boardroom window. So again, I don't think the 'short memories' line serves your line of argument well.

 

It also looks a bit like you're stalling for time when you say we need to give the restructuring a year to see whether it works or not. Had it been done two-and-a-half years ago, when it was clear that it was necessary, you might have a point. But, thanks to Top, it wasn't. And now we potentially don't have a year to see how things go, because it's quite possible that - one year from now - the club's position will be terminal, or worse.

 

Of course there is always going to be misguided speculation, as you say, when people don't have access to our wage bill. But one thing which hasn't been misreported is that, owing to the incompetence of people who remain in the key roles at the club, there is a real prospect of our overheads outweighing the club's value within the time frame in which - you say - we should be sitting tight and waiting to see what happens.

 

Do you think we can afford to show that sort of loyalty and patience now?

[davieG]

https://thefosseway.net/2025/02/14/leicester-city-f623s-a7l6l/

 

And so to the barricades: Recalling a past campaign for change at Leicester City

[Claudio Fannieri]

5 minutes ago, davieG said:

https://thefosseway.net/2025/02/14/leicester-city-f623s-a7l6l/

 

And so to the barricades: Recalling a past campaign for change at Leicester City

Cracking article, how we need a Martin George type of chairman and a Brian Little type of manager to get a grip of this club and turn the tide. 

[The_77]

3 hours ago, NextPlease said:

Perhaps its because many of the protestors weren't old enough to remember the Milan Mandaric era, but we have faced the prospect of League One before and suffered relegation, yet he didn't receive the level of criticism thrown at our current owners.

 

At that time he swerved making transfers which could have kept us up in an era when PSR hadn't been invented but refused to do so. Our current owners are juggling trying to avoid further sanctions, yes they have made poor calls on players wages (every club has a hit & miss situation on transfer business and go through spells of getting many right and then getting many wrong), but unlike Everton & Forest fans, our fans have never been vocal about the unfairness of PSR (a few notable exceptions recently on here) or recognise we were the first to be hamstrung by the restrictions due to our success, but other clubs will follow overtime.

 

Also, reporting has been misleading, how many have banged on about Winks being on £90k/week, to only now discover in reports this week he is on less than half of this ?

 

My hope is the recent announced changes with the Sporting Director and Commercial Director, will bring the needed refresh in thinking, but they both need to be given time to have an impact, so that as a minimum would be one full season

That is disingenuous comparison. You’re putting the beginning Mandaric’s time with us against years of complete mismanagement under Aiyawatt. 

I won’t touch on the other points, our fellow FoxesTalk members have already correctly highlighted them. 

 

 

 

Edited 8 March by The_77
Typo

[1972 Fox]

3 hours ago, davieG said:

https://thefosseway.net/2025/02/14/leicester-city-f623s-a7l6l/

 

And so to the barricades: Recalling a past campaign for change at Leicester City

35 years on and the Ginetta clan have always had the same stance. 

 

"The official supporters’ club would have nothing to do with us"

[Corky]

It was in the most harrowing circumstances but, football-wise, it was the perfect time for Aiyawatt to take over. The hard work of reshaping the squad had been done, we just needed to upgrade the manager.

[5waller5]

On 05/03/2026 at 09:23, ClaphamFox said:

Not necessarily. The argument that ‘he worked in the finance department during the mess so he must be responsible for it’ is basically guilt-by-association dressed up as analysis. It’s an easy assumption to make from the outside, but that doesn’t make it accurate.

 

If an organisation has been drifting toward an iceberg for years, someone inside it warning about the danger isn’t responsible for the situation simply because they were on the ship. And if that same person is later promoted and helps steer the organisation back to safer waters, they probably deserve credit for the recovery rather than blame for the previous mess.

 

The club could easily have appointed someone from outside just to avoid the optics of promoting internally. But optics aren’t competence. If the club were in a healthier place, promoting someone with Davies’ local roots and strong work behind the scenes would probably be welcomed. Instead, the reaction seems driven largely by the fact he comes from within the KP group. That may be understandable emotionally, but it isn’t necessarily fair to him.

Top & Rudkin are completely unaware of this word “optics” they definitely haven’t made a decision based on fan’s opinions either

[5waller5]

7 hours ago, NextPlease said:

Perhaps its because many of the protestors weren't old enough to remember the Milan Mandaric era, but we have faced the prospect of League One before and suffered relegation, yet he didn't receive the level of criticism thrown at our current owners.

 

At that time he swerved making transfers which could have kept us up in an era when PSR hadn't been invented but refused to do so. Our current owners are juggling trying to avoid further sanctions, yes they have made poor calls on players wages (every club has a hit & miss situation on transfer business and go through spells of getting many right and then getting many wrong), but unlike Everton & Forest fans, our fans have never been vocal about the unfairness of PSR (a few notable exceptions recently on here) or recognise we were the first to be hamstrung by the restrictions due to our success, but other clubs will follow overtime.

 

Also, reporting has been misleading, how many have banged on about Winks being on £90k/week, to only now discover in reports this week he is on less than half of this ?

 

My hope is the recent announced changes with the Sporting Director and Commercial Director, will bring the needed refresh in thinking, but they both need to be given time to have an impact, so that as a minimum would be one full season

 

The Mandaric era directly followed the club being in administration, and a transfer embargo. He took over with us circling the relegation zone in the Championship in March 2007, and narrowly kept us up with Nigel Worthington as caretaker. The following year we did get relegated but to criticise him for lack of signings is utterly bizarre - we signed 21? New players under Martin Allen a few months into MM’s reign.

He literally took us from being on the verge of extinction and built a solid foundation of progress. It didn’t happen overnight but he certainly threw effort (and money within the constraints of his net worth being less than 5% of Vichai’s) at finding players and managers to make it happen. 

 

To compare MM with the lazy incompetence shown by Top and then claim some were old enough to remember Milan, and the lack of criticism for him, suggests that you’re not one of the people that remember that era

 

[5waller5]

4 hours ago, davieG said:

https://thefosseway.net/2025/02/14/leicester-city-f623s-a7l6l/

 

And so to the barricades: Recalling a past campaign for change at Leicester City

My brother, who sadly passed away just over a year ago, was on the Committee of the ALF. I remember going with him and around 6 others to meet Barrie Pierpoint (I was only about 16 and was a spectator to the meeting, but remember thinking how, despite talking really well, I didn’t believe a word of what he said). 
 

We used to chant an A-L-F song in the Kop, I can’t remember the words now, and hand out leaflets before the games (they were so expensive to print back then I think we had about 500 to give out)!