League One - Who manages us?

[teblin]

1 hour ago, lcfcbluearmy said:

Let's look at the positives at least it wont be Russell Martin 😂

We don't 100% know that. But I wouldn't have thought he'd want a League 1 job.

[StonyFox]

It won't be Fuchs. He is popular with the fans and a link back to when times were good. This regime does not employ people who will be popular with the fans or call them out. They have gradually removed staff and players who do this, such as Morgan, Kasper, and Vardy. 

 

It's no coincidence that this team has no fight or leadership. It's what Rudkin wants, so no one challenges him. 

[Lionator]

15 minutes ago, StonyFox said:

It won't be Fuchs. He is popular with the fans and a link back to when times were good. This regime does not employ people who will be popular with the fans or call them out. They have gradually removed staff and players who do this, such as Morgan, Kasper, and Vardy. 

 

It's no coincidence that this team has no fight or leadership. It's what Rudkin wants, so no one challenges him. 

There is absolutely no onfield reason to appoint Fuchs either though. 

[indierich06]

Fuchs has done an 'ok' job at best - of course you have to take into account the fact that he took over when they were rock bottom of the league - but his stats don't make for great reading to be fair. They concede fewer goals under him - makes sense given he was a defender - but their PPG and GPG aren't anything to write home about. Again, it needs context - but historically Newport are better than this.

 

[Blue ROI]

1 hour ago, indierich06 said:

I fear that it will be another weird, haphazard/ill-thought-out appointment. 

 

The safe option, if he's ready for a return to football, would be Pearson - knows the DNA of the club, as he essentially built the modern identity of LCFC. Not a Guardiola possession merchant though, so I doubt Top will be interested.

 

Wildcards? Dave Challinor, Danny Cowley? Christian Fuchs? Again, we need someone who can connect with the fans and bring back a bit of goodwill - though it may be too soon for him. Though tbh, doubt they are paying for a manager from anywhere.

It's Pearson way out in front of everyone.

 

The only downside would be it would take time and there'll still be KPFC fans who follow the gospel of cliff who won't take to him

 

And if hes OK to do it more importantly. 

 

I'd steer clear of our ex players. It's not a surefire route to success.  Only Diego Simeone has bucked the trend AFAIK

[Chairman of the Bored]

Christian Fuchs with Wasilewski as 'the enforcer'. Marcin hasn't got any coaching quals, but that shouldn't matter. We just need a kick arse kind of guy to keep everyone in line. Kingy coaching, of course. Doubt we can afford more than those three.

[adejo92]

Can't be Andy King.

 

Been in the ear of every manager thats failed and when he got his opportunity,  he just replicated the exact same weak tactics that his predecessors did.

 

Legend as a player, but absolutely stealing a living being any part of the first team coaching set up.

[LFEFox23]

Come on guys, we all love Fuchs but lets be realistic.... This is a MASSIVE job for someone, there's going to be a 80-90% playing and coaching staff turnover,  total rebuild and restructure going on, experience is vital.

[cityfanlee23]

It just cannot be understated how important this next appointment is, I'd argue it's more important than any manager we've appointed in the last 30 years. 
Our finances are potentially worse than ever, we've been in admin before, but never with this level of debt. The pressure on the next manager will be absolutely insane. The next manager needs to be a leader and needs to be able to spot good personalities in players (something we have failed to do for years), needs to be charismatic enough to convince young players we are the hot destination to come and springboard their careers on, needs to be tactically astute to be able to convince premier league teams that sending us their best loan players will massively help their career, needs to have the strength to stand up to the board, needs to be able to win the fanbase over and have a clear plan and direction that gets us excited again. 

Usually you can get away with 1 or 2 of those traits, we need all of them if we are going to get out of this mess. Whoever becomes the next manager needs to seriously look in the mirror and step up, because I don't think many will realise just how big of a job this is in the next 12 months and just how much pressure they will be under from all angles. 

God knows who this magician is, but the club could very well hang in the balance on getting this next appointment right. 

[shen]

42 minutes ago, LFEFox23 said:

Come on guys, we all love Fuchs but lets be realistic.... This is a MASSIVE job for someone, there's going to be a 80-90% playing and coaching staff turnover,  total rebuild and restructure going on, experience is vital.

He's got a whole international level playing career behind him, has been at multiple clubs and countries and been a top professional by all accounts. He will have a large network and has a big advantage in knowing the KP era LCFC inside out. 
If he has the right connections and the ability to surround himself with good people, that'll be worth a lot more than 'experience' in my view.

Everyone will have to learn in a new job, but if he ever was to become LCFC manager, this would be the level he would join us at.

[rico]

Mark Robins ...?

[AjcW]

5 minutes ago, rico said:

Mark Robins ...?

I like him, but he seems to be nothing without Adi Viviesh. 

[Happy Fox]

Mousinho but why would he leave Pompey for us, he would be the standout candidate imo.

[Les-TA-Jon]

1 hour ago, cityfanlee23 said:

It just cannot be understated how important this next appointment is, I'd argue it's more important than any manager we've appointed in the last 30 years. 
Our finances are potentially worse than ever, we've been in admin before, but never with this level of debt. The pressure on the next manager will be absolutely insane. The next manager needs to be a leader and needs to be able to spot good personalities in players (something we have failed to do for years), needs to be charismatic enough to convince young players we are the hot destination to come and springboard their careers on, needs to be tactically astute to be able to convince premier league teams that sending us their best loan players will massively help their career, needs to have the strength to stand up to the board, needs to be able to win the fanbase over and have a clear plan and direction that gets us excited again. 

Usually you can get away with 1 or 2 of those traits, we need all of them if we are going to get out of this mess. Whoever becomes the next manager needs to seriously look in the mirror and step up, because I don't think many will realise just how big of a job this is in the next 12 months and just how much pressure they will be under from all angles. 

God knows who this magician is, but the club could very well hang in the balance on getting this next appointment right. 

Almost zero chance the club can identify this person, let alone actually appoint them. 

[LCFCCKEANO]

1 hour ago, indierich06 said:

Fuchs has done an 'ok' job at best - of course you have to take into account the fact that he took over when they were rock bottom of the league - but his stats don't make for great reading to be fair. They concede fewer goals under him - makes sense given he was a defender - but their PPG and GPG aren't anything to write home about. Again, it needs context - but historically Newport are better than this.

 

 

Current state of the club should be taken into account, looking at that Newport have been worse year on year for 5, hard to turn that around as we should know best. Don’t want him but think this isn’t a fair comparison 

[Fox92]

1 hour ago, StonyFox said:

It won't be Fuchs. He is popular with the fans and a link back to when times were good. This regime does not employ people who will be popular with the fans or call them out. They have gradually removed staff and players who do this, such as Morgan, Kasper, and Vardy. 

 

It's no coincidence that this team has no fight or leadership. It's what Rudkin wants, so no one challenges him. 

Fuchs probably loves this regime just like they all do.

[Guppys Love Child]

1 hour ago, adejo92 said:

Can't be Andy King.

 

Been in the ear of every manager thats failed and when he got his opportunity,  he just replicated the exact same weak tactics that his predecessors did.

 

Legend as a player, but absolutely stealing a living being any part of the first team coaching set up.

Spot On.

 

 But in all fairness each manager once the baton had landed in their hand has done much the same. 423 fvcking 1, no real  analysing of team selections to weed out the dross and, or try something different.

No tactical changes even considered.

 

So nothing changed....  or was given the opportunity too by King or any of the managers.

 

 

[Fox92]

1 minute ago, Guppys Love Child said:

Spot On.

 

 But in all fairness each manager once the baton had landed in their hand has done much the same. 423 fvcking 1, no real  analysing of team selections to weed out the dross and, or try something different.

No tactical changes even considered.

 

So nothing changed....  or was given the opportunity too by King or any of the managers.

 

 

Seems to be the obsession nowadays does 4231 or anything with just 1 upfront. It's horrendous. 

[Mickyblueeyes]

I think he is currently in the Saudi pro league but Des Buckingham ? Ok, another ex Oxford manager. 

[The Doctor]

8 minutes ago, Fox92 said:

Seems to be the obsession nowadays does 4231 or anything with just 1 upfront. It's horrendous. 

it's not really an obsession so much as it is the basics of setting a team up against current tactics - every team packs the midfield, so a 4-4-2 really struggles unless you have one very narrow winger or a withdrawn striker (at which point you're going towards 4-2-3-1 anyway when the wingers push up). You want to win the midfield (and this has been our biggest problem for years, we've rarely had more than one good centre mid on the books) by getting enough bodies in there, you have to either sacrifice one up top and play a lone striker, or you bin off a full back, play wing backs and go 3-5-2, which requires hard working wing backs getting up and down the pitch, and mobile centre backs. Much as we keep calling for 3-5-2 to just change something, we also have zero cbs who could beat your nan in a sprint. When Rowett said after Sheff Weds that this squad can only play one way, that is very much true - we only have the players for 4-2-3-1, and even then not really, because the person in charge of footballing matters has followed trends in football without understanding why they exist, leading to a hollow simulacrum of a football team.

[Enyoueffsea]

2 hours ago, ClaphamFox said:

I think we'll be operating in a slightly different market. We'll be the biggest club in League One and will aiming for an instant promotion back to the Championship. There are quite a few managers who would be interested in that gig but wouldn't particularly fancy Barnsley.

 

Whilst I don’t disagree, some people in this thread suggesting people like Martin, Rosenior or Gerrard will have a rude awakening about the different market you’ll be operating in.

 

Personally think you need an upcoming young coach with a good philosophy and evidence of working with a young squad and building morale and harmony. There is very little of that in this country, maybe someone like Challinor (but not convinced you’d pay for him or he’d come) so I’d suggest plucking someone out the second division in Germany or a seasoned number 2 with a good reputation.

 

I don’t know enough of that level to have an informed opinion but good evidence of it working out in Eckert and others.

 

Last thing you need in this mess is a recycled manager from the lower leagues.

[apollo4joe]

It will be probably be someone out of work, there won't be much money to play with this summer.

[lee7]

2 hours ago, adejo92 said:

Can't be Andy King.

 

Been in the ear of every manager thats failed and when he got his opportunity,  he just replicated the exact same weak tactics that his predecessors did.

 

Legend as a player, but absolutely stealing a living being any part of the first team coaching set up.

I think King really let himself down when he stepped in as interim manager. 

 

It was a chance for him to come in and really throw caution to the wind. It was basically a free hit and he bottled it massively.

[StonyFox]

Rudkin will never have heard of him, and it wouldn't be glamorous enough for Top, but Dave Challinor has taken Stockport to the League One play-offs, having joined them in the National League. They'd been out of the league for 11 years, and he might even get them promoted 3 times in 5 seasons. But if he does, he'd be taking a step down to join us!

[AjcW]

50 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

I think he is currently in the Saudi pro league but Des Buckingham ? Ok, another ex Oxford manager. 

Ex City Group too