How do we resolve the fan divide issue

[LCFCCHRIS]

1 hour ago, SystonFox said:

to appease the fan base then as a bare minimum Rudkin needs the chop instantly.

we need to tear up contracts for certain players and move them out ASAP.

return to a black away shirt with a light blue sash. this will solve most problems imo.

Instead of taking 1 million for some fake sponsor, offer it to walkers at a reduced rate. 

I know money will be tighter but it's time to get fans back on board and lighten the mood. 

[Motty]

1 hour ago, Danno said:

Just outlive them 

Oh boy not much hope for me in that case I'm nearly 63

[Miquel The Work Geordie]

A big fight or Megazone 

[Scotch]

The fan-base can't united the fan base. Only the club can do that.

[CosbehFox]

53 minutes ago, beepee1984 said:

True I suppose I forgot as you don't really see it as an outsider 

 

It is surprising how many people outside of Leicester City do not realise how divided our fan base currently is

Your latter point just literally done an interview with a French journalist explaining it all as best I could

[VLC86]

Bag of pills or a nuke, either or is fine.

[Dan]

You can't. This town ain't big enough for the both of us.

 

Sportswashing in its purest form.

 

Phoenix club.

[Stuntman_Mike]

1 hour ago, Nolucklcfc said:

Probably won’t ever be resolved. I’ll never forget how some just stood by, applauded, and just responded with ‘back the lads’ whilst we slowly died. 

And their version of back the lads doesn't actually include any backing. They're filling a seat that for all the players know or care, could be empty.

[David Hankey]

Fans are fickle, always have been always will be. Even in the heady days of the 2015/16 season there were detractors within the fanbase.

 

Just accept the fact we are not all the same, we all have differing opinions and who is to say who is right?

[JonnyBoy]

47 minutes ago, Miquel The Work Geordie said:

A big fight or Megazone 

can't take flasks into megazone 

[JonnyBoy]

6 minutes ago, David Hankey said:

Fans are fickle, always have been always will be. Even in the heady days of the 2015/16 season there were detractors within the fanbase.

 

Just accept the fact we are not all the same, we all have differing opinions and who is to say who is right?

 

If you were to analyse the downfall of the club, on paper the last 10 years. There is only one group who would be right. This isn't about opinions anymore, its'a about what is right and what is wrong - black and white. 

[lanefox]

Ban flasks and blankets from the ground

[MattFox]

1 hour ago, David Hankey said:

Fans are fickle, always have been always will be. Even in the heady days of the 2015/16 season there were detractors within the fanbase.

 

Just accept the fact we are not all the same, we all have differing opinions and who is to say who is right?

Difference of opinion where one side refuses to engage with reality in this case 

[Guppys Love Child]

2 hours ago, Buzzell said:

Only way for us all to be happy is if Top sells up, taking Rudkin and co with him and we then get a fresh, hungry owner in who makes us a well oiled machine again.

 

Unfortunately though we all know that Top will not sell the club and will definitely not sack Rudkin so unfortunately we will be divided until things change.

Spot On !

 This is the only way to bridge the divide.

 

 Those campaigning for change "win" on all fronts, as long as any new owners are competent at running the club financially and appoint the correct manager. (With any change this is always an unknown gamble) We hopefully then can start to heal and move forward again with the goal of trying to play a decent standard of entertaining football where the players put a shift in and show that they care.

 

KPFC happy clappers that followed the cult of "Cvnt Top" and KP will possibly plague us no more and bugger off with him.

 

We as a ground of supporters will then all be behind "backing the lads" as hopefully the set up at board level and the match going squad warrant backing at that point.

 

I also stand by my belief that I've posted a few times now in various threads that the only way The Nepo Baby and KP sell up and do one, is when the financial burden of the club is to great. Be that he truly runs out of money to 'prop us up' (if in fact he's allowed) or we slip into administration etc.

 

Protests, plane banners, chanting, Boo's have ZERO affect on them. History of the past 5 or 6 years has shown us that they simply don't care about us as fans or the damage they are causing the club. The deafing silence on the communication front is proof of this. Their arrogant, egotistical, selfish incompetence doesn't allow it hence the mess we are in and that there is no plan to escape it. 

 

The simple fact is their track record  proves that they lack the ability to do anything about it.

 

If you want to go to 'KPFC it' and clap post match regardless of the result  or go to shout and scream at the board  or our spineless,  uninterested bunch of selfish fvckers on the pitch, feel free, I won't judge anyone.  

 

I just won't be there again until "Cvnt Top", KP, and Rudkin have left the building.

 

 

 

[foxile5]

It’ll never go back to the good-old-days because the KP regime have curated the fan base that they want.

 

-Extremely family orientated to the point that the crowd is saturated by people who think it’s open-air theatre.

-Browbeaten people who are searched on entry by a phalanx of stewards.

-Scared to speak up or show dissent because of heavy handed sanctions policy implemented by ‘Big Leicester Fan’ Jim who is revered.

-Driven by ‘treats’ like free bits of cardboard or one tinny each.

-Locked in place by stringent ticket release policies that means if you’re not staying forever you’re never getting back in.

 

The days that we pine for are almost impossible to bring back because the generation of bawdy, half-drunk, loud fans that generate that atmosphere have atrophied because of the above. Union FS are trying. If you REALLY want to bring that atmosphere back buy a ticket in or adjacent to their section and spread it.

 

If not, get clap-happy and use your best ‘I’m a football fan’ voice to shout ‘come on you foxes’ cause that’s what we’ve got now.

 

[trooky]

3 hours ago, CosbehFox said:

First solution is simple. Sack Rudkin. That’s a universally agreed opinion. 
 

Then this summer do a proper presentation (can be McCarron) which outlines the vision of the future. The board change release was about 10 years old its format. Do a proper video introducing the new hires not old photos of Rudkin with word salad quotes 

Well it can't be Top because he barely speaks English. 

[trooky]

Top should sack Rudkin, search for a new chairman who's not connected with King Power and then resign. 

 

His role should be restricted to just providing the funds. 

[BRFC1875]

5 hours ago, Jabbaranks said:

The last few weeks and certainly the last few days over social media has clearly demonstrated the clear divide amongst the fanbase between the 'back the lads/true supporter' section and the 'Completely unacceptable, deserve every thing they get' section. Last night's full time footage was as concerning (to me) as anything on the pitch - a clear mix of anger, upset, rage against a significant bunch of people clapping, looking mildly disappointed and a shrug of shoulders.

 

How do we even begin to bring the fanbase back together in the situation we're in? It's not like Blackburn or Sheff Weds where there's a unanimous view on the Venkys and Chansiri, and there's a concerted and agreed view on how to engage the club and make change. 

 

How do we go about doing that, cos at the moment I can't see a way forward.

You're a million miles away with that one, there's a massive divide in the Rovers fanbase and has been for years, I would argue the worst in the whole country. I've read lots of comments on this forum and you could literally be reading a Rovers forum. In many ways Leicester and the Rovers are pretty unique clubs in the modern game and whilst I concede that as a City club, you're bigger than us, both clubs relatively recent above expectations success has fashioned very similar fan bases.

 

Sorry for the war and peace but I've copied and pasted a post from one of our forum discussions and I think you'll get the idea that what's going on at Leicester is almost identical to what's going on at the Rovers.

 

 

• Exactly right Drog, we have the most unique fanbase in the whole country, split right down the middle.

Some, like me and you, see the Walker years as the outliers, the 30 years or so before and the 15 years or so since, as a more realistic indication of where a small to medium sized club lies in the modern game dominated by money and the big city clubs.

The video mentions that the unrest has nothing to do with relegations or defeats, but the simple fact is that what is going on on the pitch is EVERYTHING to the half of the fanbase that suddenly fell in love or had it's love rekindled by the success of the Walker years. If we magically found success under the Venky's, these people would quickly get over their grievances and be back on Ewood like a shot. Equally if the Venky's sold up and the "shame" continued under new owners, they'd be flapping their arms about and crying the exact same, just with new targets.

I'll say again, I'm no fan of the Venky's. To use an analogy, I'd liken their ownership to that of parents who raise their child and give them all the basics they need, but none of the love and time that child needs to flourish. They are keeping us alive, yes, but it's unlikely we will ever flourish under their tenure. I'd also like to see someone new have a go, that's not my gripe, my issue is with the rhetoric that these fans use and the OTT way they go about it.

If we've had 15 years of "shame", what have Bolton had? What have Oldham had? What have Sheff Wed had..... or countless other comparable or bigger clubs that have had it a lot worse?

It boils down to one word and Drog mentioned it, entitlement. Whether these Venky's out extremists would admit it or not, their starting point will always be "how can former Premier League champions be in this predicament"? That's their default starting point for everything, they may not say that in their posts or videos, but they can deny it all they want, when they close their eyes and think of the Rovers they think of Alan Shearer, Kenny Dalglish, 30,000 crowds and winning the Premiership.

All those things did happen and they're fact, but if that's your starting point when you're asked to judge this club in the modern game, then you'll never be happy again. Those times were fantastic, but they're gone and those heights will never be hit again. BUT we can become a Premiership club again and that should always be our aim. If clubs like Bournemouth, Fulham, Brentford and Burnley can do it, then we most certainly can as well. The biggest example of what a medium sized club can achieve is surely Brighton, no bigger than us in truth, but in the here and now, a million miles away from us with a fantastic owner that's a lifelong supporter and has put not only money into the club but also his time and love.

But it's worth remembering for every Brighton, there's a Sheff Wed so maybe we as a fanbase should be a little more realistic and balanced when describing the Venky's tenure and seeing it more as a very average period in the club's history and not a "shameful" one.

My half of the fanbase wants success, craves success, but wanting and expecting are two totally different things and that's where the line and divide in the fanbase lies and it's tearing away at the club every bit as much as the Venky's are.

RTID.

[SheppyFox]

5 hours ago, Jabbaranks said:

The last few weeks and certainly the last few days over social media has clearly demonstrated the clear divide amongst the fanbase between the 'back the lads/true supporter' section and the 'Completely unacceptable, deserve every thing they get' section. Last night's full time footage was as concerning (to me) as anything on the pitch - a clear mix of anger, upset, rage against a significant bunch of people clapping, looking mildly disappointed and a shrug of shoulders.

 

How do we even begin to bring the fanbase back together in the situation we're in? It's not like Blackburn or Sheff Weds where there's a unanimous view on the Venkys and Chansiri, and there's a concerted and agreed view on how to engage the club and make change. 

 

How do we go about doing that, cos at the moment I can't see a way forward.

Simple, just start winning again. Fixes everything.

[PC1984]

We need a new manager with a more direct style as the Man City possession football doesn’t work for us. Hull are under a transfer embargo relying on free transfers and loan players. They didn’t look great but the team are playing for each other and the badge. They’re competing in the league, given our current financial position this needs to be our approach if there’s no money. Effort on the pitch will reunite a portion of the fan base. 

[Muzzy_no7]

[Foxin_Mad]

I actually think some people would have accepted them just being honest, talking to the fans. Reviewing openly what's gone on, the things done to fix the problems, lessons learned etc. I accept mistakes and bad decisions happy everywhere, bad managers and staff can mess things up. What I cant take is being treated with total and utter contempt by the club, fobbed off, ignored, lied to.

 

The damage has now done, I am not sure the club ever comes back from this without a local saviour like Doug King who is prepared to take a bit of a hit. 

[SecretPro]

2 minutes ago, Foxin_Mad said:

I actually think some people would have accepted them just being honest, talking to the fans. Reviewing openly what's gone on, the things done to fix the problems, lessons learned etc. I accept mistakes and bad decisions happy everywhere, bad managers and staff can mess things up. What I cant take is being treated with total and utter contempt by the club, fobbed off, ignored, lied to.

 

The damage has now done, I am not sure the club ever comes back from this without a local saviour like Doug King who is prepared to take a bit of a hit. 

Think this is a one major thing being overlooked. The complete lack of communication and honesty from those at the top has the whole fan base basically guessing the state of everything and never really knowing the truth. That means everybody is going to draw their own conclusions and form their own opinions on who's to blame, if anyone. The lack of coherence within the club has led to a lack of coherence off it. 

 

Honestly, the most unforgivable thing in this whole debacle is the disgusting, and I mean absolutely disgusting lack of communication, honesty, integrity and transparency from everyone at the club, top to bottom, including Top, Rudkin, players, ex players. The silence has been deafening. The evidential omerta that exists at the club with people that matter to fans being literally unable to say what they think is grim, pathetic, cowardly, disgusting. 

[Trav Le Bleu]

5 hours ago, Jabbaranks said:

The last few weeks and certainly the last few days over social media has clearly demonstrated the clear divide amongst the fanbase between the 'back the lads/true supporter' section and the 'Completely unacceptable, deserve every thing they get' section. Last night's full time footage was as concerning (to me) as anything on the pitch - a clear mix of anger, upset, rage against a significant bunch of people clapping, looking mildly disappointed and a shrug of shoulders.

 

How do we even begin to bring the fanbase back together in the situation we're in? It's not like Blackburn or Sheff Weds where there's a unanimous view on the Venkys and Chansiri, and there's a concerted and agreed view on how to engage the club and make change. 

 

How do we go about doing that, cos at the moment I can't see a way forward.

So far all I'm reading is more hate for our own fans.

 

Fair play for trying though. I remember being at a game years ago which we lost and as we were leaving I made a joke about something completely unrelated and my wife laughed.

 

A fan in front of us rounded on her, fully red in the face and said, "so you think this is funny do you!?" I don't think I've ever since seen anyone so furious. I tried to calm him, but he was spitting fury.

 

If that's how football makes you... maybe find a different pastime. 

 

I'm upset, I'm disappointed... but I'm not furious. There's plenty of things in the world to be angry about... but people clapping?

 

Gimme a break!

[Corky]

14 minutes ago, Muzzy_no7 said:

There is no joined up thinking with this lot, is there? "They are all glory supporters" as they sit through a third relegation in four years. "Who will buy the club?" because the God in charge has operated it so well it has left us on the brink and unattractive to potential suitors. " More financial pressure" so let's carry on with the current situation.

 

Never articulate, comprehensive or well-researched. Just limited, lazy, contradictory opinions.