Russell Martin - Confirmed as First Team Manager

[Miquel The Work Geordie]

18 minutes ago, The Doctor said:

right, but a bloke who's been in the PL with a newly promoted time is likely to have a much lower win %age than a bloke who's had one or two years managing a league two playoff side. Those are two wildly different jobs, and you can't just compare them by win %age

 

Richie Wellens has a better managerial win % than Nigel Pearson for example — it's just such a dense way of looking at it but he seems to be doubling down 

Edited Tuesday at 19:53 by Miquel The Work Geordie

[The Doctor]

15 minutes ago, BlueBus said:

Fine, I'll just do Swansea and MK Dons.

 

Russell Martin is 18th out of 22. Happy now? 

if you do this, manager of the year would just be the team that wins the title every year. But like let's say next season Hull finish 7th in the prem, would Jovankovic not have done a better job than the likes of Maresca or Arteta would have done if theres another man city v Arsenal title race? Because any reasonable person would say yes, in this circumstance Jovankovic would have done a better job - win % wouldn't show that though 

[BlueBus]

 

7 minutes ago, Tommy Fresh said:

Were MK Dons massively fancied? 

Well then what's the excuse for all of the managers managing MK Dons sized clubs in League One atm having a better win %? 

 

Forget I said anything! Sorry gang 

[BlueBus]

1 minute ago, The Doctor said:

if you do this, manager of the year would just be the team that wins the title every year. But like let's say next season Hull finish 7th in the prem, would Jovankovic not have done a better job than the likes of Maresca or Arteta would have done if theres another man city v Arsenal title race? Because any reasonable person would say yes, in this circumstance Jovankovic would have done a better job - win % wouldn't show that though 

Yes but that isn't the case?

[Tommy Fresh]

6 minutes ago, BlueBus said:

 

Well then what's the excuse for all of the managers managing MK Dons sized clubs in League One atm having a better win %? 

 

Forget I said anything! Sorry gang 

Calm down, I've just asked if MK Dons were massively fancied, as you said he'd never managed an unfancied side outside of Southampton in the prem

[TheFiveTime]

the man city of league 1

[jayfox26]

Played 2 won 2.

 

Mart in! 

[Ryy]

 

[Lambert09]

6 minutes ago, Ryy said:

 

We can hate the decision, hate the footballer, but it’s still good to hear that he’s helping youngsters and you could even see him talking some of them through the game today. 
 

That’s a good sign of character particularly if he’s planning his way out the club. That’s just comes from being a decent human, so maybe a bit of credit where it’s due  

[Chelmofox]

7 minutes ago, Ryy said:

 

I was starting to warm to the ***** (Martin, not pube head).

[Jamie Vard-on]

6 hours ago, BlueBus said:

Out of interest I wanted to see where Russell Martins win % puts him in League One. 

 

17th out of 22 managers, there's a couple who haven't managed a game yet so I didn't include them. 

This is what I never get about "the best Leicester could have done" or the "we're in League One" brigade, his record is atrocious, even compared to other League One managers.

If you're interested, Hendrick Pedersens is the lowest, with 27.6% but 2 wins in 50 at Wednesday will do that. 

I don’t know why we didn’t go for someone like Sam Allardyce, he’s without a club and offer a bit of discipline and grit. We need a Nigel Pearson kinda guy, no nonsense approach. Honestly, when Leicester have only won 4 of their opening 15 games are sitting mid-table with Mansfield Town - Russell will be booted and we’ll have an uphill task to salvage anything. League One is a rough as arseholes league, and shouldn’t be underestimated.

[Bert]

7 minutes ago, Lambert09 said:

We can hate the decision, hate the footballer, but it’s still good to hear that he’s helping youngsters and you could even see him talking some of them through the game today. 
 

That’s a good sign of character particularly if he’s planning his way out the club. That’s just comes from being a decent human, so maybe a bit of credit where it’s due  

He actually is a decent human being. 
 

People have let his performances make them think he just doesn’t care. 

[Bert]

6 hours ago, stevostadium said:

didnt say it did

saying hes a breath of fresh air

you obvs KP out negative nelly brigade

Agree. At the minute he’s saying all the right things. 

[Dan]

26 minutes ago, Ryy said:

 

Uh oh  

[sylofox]

1 hour ago, TheFiveTime said:

the man city of league 1

Who is?

 

If you mean us, just so you know we ain't got a pot to piss in.

[BlueBus]

2 hours ago, Miquel The Work Geordie said:

 

Richie Wellens has a better managerial win % than Nigel Pearson for example — it's just such a dense way of looking at it but he seems to be doubling down 

He managed Swansea and MK Dons, neither relegation candidates and has a worse win % than managers managing in the exact same leagues with identical resources and expectations, I thought it was relevant but maybe it is dense.

 

And to the "manager of the season" argument, RM has never won a manager of the month?

 

Listen, I hope he does well and I'm proved wrong! It's clear he's got some fans, so that's positive and I'll keep my win % facts to myself next time 

[Muzzy_no7]

Being left out the Belgian squad given him the kick he needs? Let’s hope so either for our benefit or a decent fee.

[honeybradger]

38 minutes ago, Bert said:

He actually is a decent human being. 
 

People have let his performances make them think he just doesn’t care. 

We have had games where when we went 2 goals down Faes would stop even trying to defend.

 

Not to mention of his habit of throwing his hands up in the air and blaming everyone else when we concede.

 

He absolutely does not care in the slightest and the day he leaves the club will benefit both on and off the pitch.

[Chrysalis]

Seen some new young faces in that team, use them for the season, please no more signings except one more striker either from academy or young striker purchase.

[Nolucklcfc]

1 hour ago, Ryy said:

 

This is a classic example of the club setting up a manager to fail … same thing every time. 

[HankMarvin]

49 minutes ago, Dan said:

Uh oh  

Let’s be honest, he is a manager trying to save his own career.

His rocked up in league one with a squad that’s suffered 2 relegations and in the transfers coming in look limited.

its makes perfect sense for him to want to get the most out of a player that was just starting in Ligue 1.

Obviously it’s different for the fans, but personally I wouldn’t give a shit if it meant getting out of this shit league any quicker. 

[HankMarvin]

21 minutes ago, honeybradger said:

He absolutely does not care in the slightest and the day he leaves the club will benefit both on and off the pitch.

Even if he didn’t care about the club, it wouldn’t make sense to not perform to the level you are capable of, because it effects your options moving forward. 

[inckley fox]

1 hour ago, Nolucklcfc said:

This is a classic example of the club setting up a manager to fail … same thing every time. 

Well, it's as if they all start from scratch with no knowledge of what went before. And if you get through 1-3 managers per year that's always going to be a problem. Like Ruud being entirely unaware of Danny Ward's history at the club, or every new boss giving Winks / Faes / Soumare their chance.

 

You can't change managers with such frequency if the incoming bosses consistently refuse to learn from what happened to their predecessors. You create a situation wherein many fans have a better handle on the issues at the club than the managers they bring in.

 

Clearly, if you're mounting any kind of coherent response to what's happened to this club over the past four years, then naming Wout Faes as your captain is about as clear an indication as you'll get that someone is looking for the wrong solutions in the wrong places. For the fifth or sixth time on the trot.

[honeybradger]

7 hours ago, HankMarvin said:

Even if he didn’t care about the club, it wouldn’t make sense to not perform to the level you are capable of, because it effects your options moving forward. 

We can't seriously be considering going into a new season with Wout Faes as our starter? We had this same "clean sheets" nonsense last season and it led to our relegation.

[ceebeefox]

7 hours ago, HankMarvin said:

Let’s be honest, he is a manager trying to save his own career.

His rocked up in league one with a squad that’s suffered 2 relegations and in the transfers coming in look limited.

its makes perfect sense for him to want to get the most out of a player that was just starting in Ligue 1.

Obviously it’s different for the fans, but personally I wouldn’t give a shit if it meant getting out of this shit league any quicker. 

And let’s not forget we won the league under Maresca with Faes and Vesty hardly troubled for much of the season. That style of football Isn’t my cup of tea but since Maresca, style of play and good instruction of how to play it has been sorely lacking. If everyone knows what they’re asked of, we may see the best of some of these recently loathed players.