Russell Martin - Confirmed as First Team Manager

[Chelmofox]

16 minutes ago, ceebeefox said:

And let’s not forget we won the league under Maresca with Faes and Vesty hardly troubled for much of the season. That style of football Isn’t my cup of tea but since Maresca, style of play and good instruction of how to play it has been sorely lacking. If everyone knows what they’re asked of, we may see the best of some of these recently loathed players.

So the final 1/3rd of that season where we’re nearly blew a 10 point lead and teams worked us out never happened?

[FLAN]

Where’s club legend and soul of the club Andy King when he’s needed to call out all that has come before? 

[coolhandfox]

Just now, FLAN said:

Where’s club legend and soul of the club Andy King when he’s needed to call out all that has come before? 

Why is that his job, his just learning the ropes as a youth coach 

[stevostadium]

14 hours ago, Vlad the Fox said:

 

 

Can you go into more detail as to what the changes are or what he’s implementing. Like many he wouldn’t have been my choice but if he’s making changes to the attitude and culture of the club that’s a big plus.
 

He’s here and we need to hope he does well for the sake of the club.

Priority is to change the Culture to a winning togetherness.

 

The fitness levels were diabolical, which is the first thing he has addressed, even bringing his own Fitness guy in.

The training session shave been intense and often throwing in double sessions unannounced, (hence the England game one)

 

Everyone i have spoken to down there speaks extremely highly of how he conducts himself and treats all of the staff.

 

All youngsters will be given chances.

 

Anyone not fully behind the "project" will be moved out.

 

Wants to engage with fans and get them on board. Think there planning a QA session before season.

 

Little signs up in the dressing room, ie, how many games WE need to win to get back to PL.

 

He gonna be alright, i genuinely believe it, and if he isnt a success he will have definitely changed the culture into a positive one.

[coolhandfox]

58 minutes ago, honeybradger said:

We can't seriously be considering going into a new season with Wout Faes as our starter? We had this same "clean sheets" nonsense last season and it led to our relegation.

He will still be sold as soon as we can find a buyer

[ceebeefox]

31 minutes ago, Chelmofox said:

So the final 1/3rd of that season where we’re nearly blew a 10 point lead and teams worked us out never happened?

True, but after Cooper and the rest I’d take a 66% season of results. They all knew their roles under Maresca win lose or draw. If Martin gives them clear instructions and they do it, much as I’m tutting at needless possession, it’ll be an improvement . And if we win the league us fickle fans will laud them all.

 

[Sol thewall Bamba]

Huge ****ing red flag. How many fresh starts do these ****s get before a new manager has the balls to bomb them out immediately.

 

How is there no one in the club with the balls to tell the manager the score. Makes me ****ing sick.

[honeybradger]

3 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

He will still be sold as soon as we can find a buyer

Even if he is still here at the beginning of the season he simply cannot play if we want to be promoted.

 

He got caught out multiple times by Bristol Rovers who are in league 2. I get a feeling he is going to be a bomb scare no matter how far we fall down the pyramid.

Edited 12 hours ago by honeybradger

[TheGoldenGod]

Logged on. Seen people actually defend the decision to captain Faes and even accept him staying this season. Logged off!

[Claudio Fannieri]

1 minute ago, stevostadium said:

Priority is to change the Culture to a winning togetherness.

 

The fitness levels were diabolical, which is the first thing he has addressed, even bringing his own Fitness guy in.

The training session shave been intense and often throwing in double sessions unannounced, (hence the England game one)

 

Everyone i have spoken to down there speaks extremely highly of how he conducts himself and treats all of the staff.

 

All youngsters will be given chances.

 

Anyone not fully behind the "project" will be moved out.

 

Wants to engage with fans and get them on board. Think there planning a QA session before season.

 

Little signs up in the dressing room, ie, how many games WE need to win to get back to PL.

 

He gonna be alright, i genuinely believe it, and if he isnt a success he will have definitely changed the culture into a positive one.

Thanks for sharing this, he wasn’t my preferred choice of manager but so far been really impressed with what I have seen and heard.
 

We have been crying out for somebody to come in and reset the culture, and it would appear that Russell Martin is the man to do this. Yes there will be bumps in the road but he is here and he is our manager and from what has gone on so far it has been way more positive than negative.
 

Perhaps it’s time for us all to put aside the negativity and get behind this manager and really hope he can deliver the culture change and upturn in results and performances this club so desperately needs. 

[CornwallFox]

1 hour ago, Chelmofox said:

So the final 1/3rd of that season where we’re nearly blew a 10 point lead and teams worked us out never happened?

This sort of comment is some of the biggest nonsense I've ever read on here. 

We won the league with 97 points and something like +48 goal difference. The fact the end of the season wasn't as good as the start is irrelevant, very few teams win all season. We have a generation of football fan that thinks the man city 100 points season was normal. Teams lose. Man Utd were winning leagues under Ferguson with points totals as low as 75 points. Maresca took a team that was relegated embarrassing from the premier League, instantly turned them into a winning machine, and duly won the league. He's since gone on to manage Chelsea and now Man City. It's utterly weird to focus on one part of a season and ignore the rest.

[CornwallFox]

35 minutes ago, TheGoldenGod said:

Logged on. Seen people actually defend the decision to captain Faes and even accept him staying this season. Logged off!

Evidently you came back

[Lesta2014]

Saw him chatting with fans last night , any clues given as to when we will have some new signings? 

[Miquel The Work Geordie]

9 hours ago, BlueBus said:

He managed Swansea and MK Dons, neither relegation candidates and has a worse win % than managers managing in the exact same leagues with identical resources and expectations, I thought it was relevant but maybe it is dense.

 

And to the "manager of the season" argument, RM has never won a manager of the month?

 

Listen, I hope he does well and I'm proved wrong! It's clear he's got some fans, so that's positive and I'll keep my win % facts to myself next time 

 

I'm not even a fan (I don't think anyone arguing you on this is) I just think your logic is fundamentally flawed  

[BenTheFox]

There's a lot of negativity on here. I'm not a fan of his, either as a football manager or personally, however, can you give the guy at least a handful of games before getting on his back please? We should see a large turnover in players, with many having left already, and it's not not going to fall into place immediately. We need to get out of this league and if he does that then I really couldn't care less whether he is likeable or not. 

[Tommy G]

14 minutes ago, Lesta2014 said:

Saw him chatting with fans last night , any clues given as to when we will have some new signings? 

Yeh I’m pretty sure he went into detail with those handful of fans at the front. 

[OriginalRobboFOX]

Faes selected as captain. Says an awful lot… can see this vs Notts County when he makes his first successful tackle

[jbflcfc]

Personally I think he played the faes bit of the interview quite well.

 

IMO he’s putting him in the shop window by stroking his ego, he’s not going to come out & slate him. I think we all know by the end of the transfer window he won’t be here.

[CornwallFox]

8 hours ago, inckley fox said:

Well, it's as if they all start from scratch with no knowledge of what went before. And if you get through 1-3 managers per year that's always going to be a problem. Like Ruud being entirely unaware of Danny Ward's history at the club, or every new boss giving Winks / Faes / Soumare their chance.

 

You can't change managers with such frequency if the incoming bosses consistently refuse to learn from what happened to their predecessors. You create a situation wherein many fans have a better handle on the issues at the club than the managers they bring in.

 

Clearly, if you're mounting any kind of coherent response to what's happened to this club over the past four years, then naming Wout Faes as your captain is about as clear an indication as you'll get that someone is looking for the wrong solutions in the wrong places. For the fifth or sixth time on the trot.

I disagree. 

I think he's a good player. He may or may not be a problem as a person. Leicester fans clearly think he is. Russell Martin has seen no evidence of this and has praised his professionalism, noting his work with youngsters. That paints a very different picture to what the fans claim about him. 

I'm inclined to trust those that actually know the man.

[Chelmofox]

1 hour ago, CornwallFox said:

This sort of comment is some of the biggest nonsense I've ever read on here. 

We won the league with 97 points and something like +48 goal difference. The fact the end of the season wasn't as good as the start is irrelevant, very few teams win all season. We have a generation of football fan that thinks the man city 100 points season was normal. Teams lose. Man Utd were winning leagues under Ferguson with points totals as low as 75 points. Maresca took a team that was relegated embarrassing from the premier League, instantly turned them into a winning machine, and duly won the league. He's since gone on to manage Chelsea and now Man City. It's utterly weird to focus on one part of a season and ignore the rest.

Us getting found out wasn't imho any major failing of Enzo (although he arguably needed a plan b). It happened because teams adapted to our style and exploited some of our players frailties (namely that Vestergaard was super slow, Faes had bomb scares in him, Winks was weak, and Riccy could be easily exploited when he was inverting high up the pitch). 

 

I always appreciate Enzo was likely to go on to better things.

 

But what i find really weird, is that certain fans couldn't see the problem unfolding in front of them. Vestergaard had been found out at championship level, and we gave him a 3 year deal in the PL. And Faes has always been a bomb scare, with a poor attitude to boot. 

 

That final 1/3 of our season plotted our eventual downfall, and the players that played their part in it stunk the team out for 2 more seasons, yet some fans still dont want to admit it ever happened.

 

I am giving Martin the benefit of the doubt (reluctantly), but giving Faes the captaincy and a glowing interview is brain dead from him, when Faes is one of the reasons we are where we are.

 

 

Edited 11 hours ago by Chelmofox

[Lad1966]

26 minutes ago, Chelmofox said:

Us getting found out wasn't imho any major failing of Enzo (although he arguably needed a plan b). It happened because teams adapted to our style and exploited some of our players frailties (namely that Vestergaard was super slow, Faes had bomb scares in him, Winks was weak, and Riccy could be easily exploited when he was inverting high up the pitch). 

 

I always appreciate Enzo was likely to go on to better things.

 

But what i find really weird, is that certain fans couldn't see the problem unfolding in front of them. Vestergaard had been found out at championship level, and we gave him a 3 year deal in the PL. And Faes has always been a bomb scare, with a poor attitude to boot. 

 

That final 1/3 of our season plotted our eventual downfall, and the players that played their part in it stunk the team out for 2 more seasons, yet some fans still dont want to admit it ever happened.

 

I am giving Martin the benefit of the doubt (reluctantly), but giving Faes the captaincy and a glowing interview is brain dead from him, when Faes is one of the reasons we are where we are.

 

 

It could be that the club still want him out and RM was trying to show Faes in a good light, specifically highlighting, training and helping with the younger  players, with the hope of someone coming in for him

Edited 10 hours ago by Lad1966

[ian__marshall]

Looking at the captain's he's selected so far I'd say he's trying to test some of the senior players to get a feel for whether they are committed to the cause. I suspect in one-to-one discussions they've indicated they are happy to stay and give their all, but maybe feedback internally has been less positive/inconclusive. 

 

The only way you truly find out someone's character is to see how they respond when they have to take responsibility for a situation. Looking at the 1st half team last night, Faes and Choudhary were the most senior players, so they become the obvious choices, and if I were Martin I'd be wanting to test them ahead of the season to suss them out rather than get into competitive games and experiment when there are points at stake. 

 

Not a fan of Faes at all, in fact from a footballing perspective I think he's useless. That said, he should be capable of playing relatively well at this level. As crap as he is, I can't imagine any player plays as many games as he has for Belgium and struggles in League 1. I might be proven wrong, and it genuinely wouldn't surprise me, but gut instinct tells me he'll at least be OK this season if he has to stay (not that I want him to). 

 

Edited 10 hours ago by ian__marshall

[Chelmofox]

19 minutes ago, Lad1966 said:

It could be that the club still want him out and RM was trying to show Faes in a good light, specifically highlighting, training and helping with the younger  players, with the hope of someone coming in for him

Maybe. That can all be done without making him Captain. Although, i also understand that the captaincy is meaningless on pre season game 2, which makes it even weirder for me. Felt like a little bit of a statement.

 

I like the comment about how good Faes is with the academy players, because i have 2 vivid memories from last season:

• Faes doing one of his 'majestic' long passes to Monga at home, that flew massively over Monga's head. Then Faes flapping his arms everywhere blaming Monga because he wasnt 8ft tall.
• Faes and Vestergaard being the 2 'experienced' center backs on Aluko's debut, and both playing like absolute cretins, leaving Aluko to have to take a yellow early on as they left him totally exposed.  Faes and Vestergaard played like prats that day

So yeah, i am sceptical.

 

Maybe Martin had been briefed and expected Faes to be far worse than he actually is.

[Fox92]

12 hours ago, BlueBus said:

He managed Swansea and MK Dons, neither relegation candidates and has a worse win % than managers managing in the exact same leagues with identical resources and expectations, I thought it was relevant but maybe it is dense.

 

And to the "manager of the season" argument, RM has never won a manager of the month?

 

Listen, I hope he does well and I'm proved wrong! It's clear he's got some fans, so that's positive and I'll keep my win % facts to myself next time 

MK Dons were a newly promoted club when he took over mid season and kept them up. Once Martin left MK Dons, they had one more season in League 1 and were then relegated. Next season is going to be their first season back in League 1 since then.

 

Martin finished 10th with Swansea. In the three seasons since he left they have not finished higher than that.

 

Win percentages are not "facts" they mean fvck all to judge a manger on as there are a range of different things to take into account such as number of games managed. I've just checked and Maresca hasthe highest win percentage of any Leicester City manager ever but he's not our greatest ever manager.

Edited 9 hours ago by Fox92

[Rubbersoul]

I know talk is cheap and we’ve heard it all before but he was very positive when talking on the radio about the young players again