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Interesting that people are saying we can't afford to pay £2m for a player and yet here we are turning down offers on Souttar.
Perhaps there is a bit more to spend than people think.

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1 minute ago, hackneyfox said:

Interesting that people are saying we can't afford to pay £2m for a player and yet here we are turning down offers on Souttar.
Perhaps there is a bit more to spend than people think.

Or we're gambling again like the summer of 2023/24. Had plenty on the face of it and breached by a country mile. Let's hope that's not the case at all.

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1 minute ago, hackneyfox said:

Interesting that people are saying we can't afford to pay £2m for a player and yet here we are turning down offers on Souttar.
Perhaps there is a bit more to spend than people think.

Think we are turning offers down as they are some what derisory. If someone came in with an offer that was nearer what we value him at, I'm sure a deal will be done. 

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Just now, Ric Flair said:

Or we're gambling again like the summer of 2023/24. Had plenty on thr face of it and breached by a country mile. Let's hope that's not the case at all.

More real time reporting in L1 so we will not get away with it. 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Ric Flair said:

Or we're gambling again like the summer of 2023/24. Had plenty on the face of it and breached by a country mile. Let's hope that's not the case at all.

I think we would get put onto a transfer embargo if / when we go over the limit

 

I don’t think it is something that can be hidden until the accounts come out this time

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9 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

More real time reporting in L1 so we will not get away with it. 

 

 

 

9 minutes ago, moore_94 said:

I think we would get put onto a transfer embargo if / when we go over the limit

 

I don’t think it is something that can be hidden until the accounts come out this time

I'm sure it's more robust but fail to see how it can be guaranteed. That said I had heard we have made assurances on required funds so let's hope all good.

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He’s obviously too good for this level, but both him and Okoli seem like the furthest thing from “Martin Centre Backs”. Rather just cash in on both and get a few replacements in (hopefully at least 1 of the young, hungry variety.)

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7 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

 

I'm sure it's more robust but fail to see how it can be guaranteed. That said I had heard we have made assurances on required funds so let's hope all good.

Every time a club attempts to register a

new player, contract extension, or loan deal, the EFL calculates the financial impact on the club's allowable wage ceiling.

 

If signing a player pushes the club's wage-to-turnover ratio past the permitted threshold, the EFL will refuse to register the player.

 

Get within 5% you are place in enhanced monitoring.

 

Because it just wages to turnover its a bit more straightforward.

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9 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

Every time a club attempts to register a

new player, contract extension, or loan deal, the EFL calculates the financial impact on the club's allowable wage ceiling.

 

If signing a player pushes the club's wage-to-turnover ratio past the permitted threshold, the EFL will refuse to register the player.

 

Get within 5% you are place in enhanced monitoring.

 

Because it just wages to turnover its a bit more straightforward.

Wonder how owner injection works in this regard, is it ring fenced in case it is needed etc. Just curious as to how far ahead this forecasts on everything we owe this season. For example if we had a major amount owed to a debtor (not necessarily transfer related) how is that factored in, quite possibly separate and so this doesn't prove we are financially secure for the next 12 months. 

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49 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Wonder how owner injection works in this regard, is it ring fenced in case it is needed etc. Just curious as to how far ahead this forecasts on everything we owe this season. For example if we had a major amount owed to a debtor (not necessarily transfer related) how is that factored in, quite possibly separate and so this doesn't prove we are financially secure for the next 12 months. 

Debt aren't included only debt servicing costs i.e. Interest.

 

Owner injection via non-refundable equity/share can't be a loan.

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Just now, moore_94 said:

Even if they sell Hamer I feel like they won’t pay what we want for Souttar

 

 

Agreed sounds like they have moved on for now 

 

tell him he is staying and make him captain - tell him he owes us a season 

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Just now, moore_94 said:

He can’t go anywhere now until we sign at least 1 new centre back

Disagree, we need the cash even more now.

 

I reckon the club had already mentally banked the Soutter and Nelson money.

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1 minute ago, kenny said:

Disagree, we need the cash even more now.

 

I reckon the club had already mentally banked the Soutter and Nelson money.

We need at least 1 centre back in before Souttar can be allowed to leave, we can’t have just Faes, Okoli and Gray

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1 minute ago, moore_94 said:

We need at least 1 centre back in before Souttar can be allowed to leave, we can’t have just Faes, Okoli and Gray

Add to that I expect the priority would be to move Faes on and then Okoli, with Faes having a year left and Okoli being unable to kick a ball straight. Think we end up with Souttar, two others and then TWB or Gray as 4th choice until Nelson is back

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3 minutes ago, kenny said:

Disagree, we need the cash even more now.

 

I reckon the club had already mentally banked the Soutter and Nelson money.

We've been rejecting Sheffield Utd's bids for Souttar to the extent that they've almost given up on him. It doesn't appear that we ever really intended to sell him, and we definitely won't now unless we get at least two more in.

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2 minutes ago, moore_94 said:

We need at least 1 centre back in before Souttar can be allowed to leave, we can’t have just Faes, Okoli and Gray

Think a loan move for Malachi Hardy will ramp up if reports are true.

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3 minutes ago, moore_94 said:

We need at least 1 centre back in before Souttar can be allowed to leave, we can’t have just Faes, Okoli and Gray

Wilson-Brown?

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3 minutes ago, Jimmy said:

Wilson-Brown?

Can’t imagine he will be brought back into the squad unless we are really desperate - definitely not seen as an option for this season

 

Expect him to be sold or loaned out

 

Or he is injured again

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