Tommy Watson - (loan from Brighton, as per Alex Crook)

[South Shire Fox]

Reminds me a bit of Jack Clarke. Brighton dont get many wrong so hopefully he will be a decent player

Edited yesterday at 17:15 by South Shire Fox

[JimJams]

2 minutes ago, honeybradger said:

The difference is that Watson is not our player long term so we dont get any benefit from developing him up to standard.

 

Feels like another Casadei where our fans are raving about him when he signs but he ends up looking very raw.

But we do get a benefit if he improves us in the present.  It's not solely a one way transaction if we "develop him" and we get nowt out of it.

[Muzzy_no7]

I would be surprised if he drops to L1

[Muzzy_no7]

25 minutes ago, FosseSpark said:

must mean skipp or choudhury on way out?

What the f? 

[FosseSpark]

15 minutes ago, Scotch said:

Is this an inside joke that I'm not part of? 

only time ive ever seen him play was centre mid for Sunderland. I stand corrected. 

[Pliskin]

3 minutes ago, honeybradger said:

The difference is that Watson is not our player long term so we dont get any benefit from developing him up to standard.

 

Feels like another Casadei where our fans are raving about him when he signs but he ends up looking very raw.

He has played for Sunderland in the championship, scoring in the play off final….. at this stage, the priority is promotion, we’ve got plenty of players to develop, and unfortunately are in not position to be pursuing any more than frees and loans.

[coolhandfox]

8 minutes ago, honeybradger said:

The difference is that Watson is not our player long term so we dont get any benefit from developing him up to standard.

 

Feels like another Casadei where our fans are raving about him when he signs but he ends up looking very raw.

We don't have a LW youth who ready to 30 odd games, other than Alves who busy playing RW. 

[honeybradger]

10 minutes ago, JimJams said:

But we do get a benefit if he improves us in the present.  It's not solely a one way transaction if we "develop him" and we get nowt out of it.

According to the fans of the team who  most recently watched him he's very green at the moment. If he's currently rubbish at championship level that doesn't mean he is going to step down to league one level and instantly make an impact.

 

If he is class at league one level then fair enough it's a good transfer but to me it seems like we are taking a risk here. It's just strange  to me that we appear willing to take a risk on other teams youth players but not our own.

Edited yesterday at 17:28 by honeybradger

[honeybradger]

9 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

We don't have a LW youth who ready to 30 odd games, other than Alves who busy playing RW. 

I would have liked to see Alves play left wing for us this season if Mavididi leaves. Don't think he is as effective on the right and the CAM position is currently overstocked.

[coolhandfox]

3 minutes ago, honeybradger said:

I would have liked to see Alves play left wing for us this season if Mavididi leaves. Don't think he is as effective on the right and the CAM position is currently overstocked.

Me too, however with his injury history he's unlikely to play 46 league games.

 

I want Hutchinson to go on loan in league 2 and playing down the middle.

 

If we aren’t using him or Evans often I want them out somewhere playing every week.

Edited yesterday at 17:37 by coolhandfox

[MC Prussian]

22 minutes ago, honeybradger said:

The difference is that Watson is not our player long term so we dont get any benefit from developing him up to standard.

 

Feels like another Casadei where our fans are raving about him when he signs but he ends up looking very raw.

I love it when our fans go to extremes in order to dismiss a transfer.

 

Can we see the lad play first?

[honeybradger]

7 minutes ago, MC Prussian said:

I love it when our fans go to extremes in order to dismiss a transfer.

 

Can we see the lad play first?

I think what I said is kind and balanced in comparison to what Millwall fans are saying about him i.e. worst player they have ever seen.

 

Definitely did not go to any extremes.

Edited yesterday at 17:44 by honeybradger

[LCFCCKEANO]

2 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

Me too, however with his injury history he's unlikely to play 46 league games.

 

I want Hutchinson to go on loan in league 2 and playing down the middle.

 

If we aren’t using him or Evans often I want them out somewhere playing every week.

Agree with this^, Evans and Hutchinson should be loaned out, would rather keep Carr as a back up on the right and not disturb Evans getting minutes

[StanSP]

46 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

Eh, he has twice as many minutes in Championship football as Louis Page and everyone wants him to be starting.

 

He's 20 years old and has never dropped to this level before. He's more prepared for it than any of our options, on paper.

 

Some people's brains won't be able to comprehend this amount of logic in one hit. 

[LCFCCKEANO]

Loans in League one means if w get up we have less financial obligation next year which equals more money to spend in a higher division. The equivalent spends on a LB and winger of the standard we have got in even if they’re naff would probably be in the ballpark of Cullen’s fee. Makes far more sense to have that money in a hopefully higher division and with better prospects, and doing it this way probably boosts the likelihood of promotion rather than signing L1/Champ journeymen

 

edit:Also means we have more money to spend on better players, savings from this can be added to the pot for a 9

Edited yesterday at 17:44 by LCFCCKEANO

[MC Prussian]

6 minutes ago, honeybradger said:

I think what I said is kind and balanced in comparison to what Millwall fans are saying about him i.e. worst player they have ever seen.

 

Definitely did not go to any extremes.

I think it's odd to bring in Casadei into the equation.

I can't recall much praise for him before we signed him.

 

And in the end, he turned out to be a dud. One of many.

 

I'd give pretty much any new player the benefit of the doubt. For now.

[Ric Flair]

4 minutes ago, LCFCCKEANO said:

Loans in League one means if w get up we have less financial obligation next year which equals more money to spend in a higher division. The equivalent spends on a LB and winger of the standard we have got in even if they’re naff would probably be in the ballpark of Cullen’s fee. Makes far more sense to have that money in a hopefully higher division and with better prospects, and doing it this way probably boosts the likelihood of promotion rather than signing L1/Champ journeymen

Not sure thats the case now, it's about revenue the year in question.

[Ric Flair]

He's a very big coup, let's be honest. I prefer Alves LW as others have said but I still think Mavididi goes and whilst I want to see Lorenz Hutchinson get a good amount of minutes next season he's far less effective as a wide player. He'd be my back up to a proper number 9.

 

Good move this

[st albans fox]

36 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Not sure thats the case now, it's about revenue the year in question.

Assume the point is back in the championship we would be under the three year rolling rule and reduced losses this season will help that calculation 

[JonnyBoy]

Wears tiny shin pads and low socks. Must have flare. Gerrim’in

[OadbyBlue]

He’d be ridiculous in league 1. Get him in.

[Sol thewall Bamba]

1 hour ago, Muzzy_no7 said:

I would be surprised if he drops to L1

Ah yes a winger coming in must mean one of our CDMs is leaving!

[fox_favourite]

4 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

Ah yes a winger coming in must mean one of our CDMs is leaving!

He's here to replace Souttar. 

[Grebfromgrebland]

1 hour ago, Scotch said:

Is this an inside joke that I'm not part of? 

Yes

[Muzzy_no7]

Good that we’ve sorted out a replacement for Soumare