Vacamion Posted 22 November 2014 Posted 22 November 2014 After 3 months off due to niggling injuries, got back on it today. Gentle 7.5k. Even though I'm a wheezing fatty (not exercising just pulls the ripcord on me) I have missed it so much that I actually enjoyed it today. Back in the game....
Asha Posted 22 November 2014 Posted 22 November 2014 Karl I'd say a furthest run of 16 miles probably isn't quite enough. That means you're relying on adrenaline, the crowd etc to get you through 10 miles further than you'll have ever run before, which is a long way when you're feeling the pain. The further you can run when you're training in the new year, and the more often, it's going to be so much easier for you when you turn up at the LM. Even if you're going at an easier pace you want to try and hit 20 miles at some point on a training run a month or so before. It'll be such a boost for you mentally on the day knowing that you can, and have, run 20 miles.
VLC86 Posted 22 November 2014 Posted 22 November 2014 Karl I'd say a furthest run of 16 miles probably isn't quite enough. That means you're relying on adrenaline, the crowd etc to get you through 10 miles further than you'll have ever run before, which is a long way when you're feeling the pain. The further you can run when you're training in the new year, and the more often, it's going to be so much easier for you when you turn up at the LM. Even if you're going at an easier pace you want to try and hit 20 miles at some point on a training run a month or so before. It'll be such a boost for you mentally on the day knowing that you can, and have, run 20 miles. Alternatively just use your Oyster card for the last 10. When is the London Marathon?
reynard Posted 22 November 2014 Posted 22 November 2014 Appreciate that Reynard. Great advice. Interesting to read that about the distances. My schedule has me set up to go 16 miles at the furthest but has weekly 1 mile increases from 10 miles 8 weeks before the race. I'm up to 45 mins continuous running now with no ill effects barring a bit of cramp. Still hitting 3 runs a week religiously. My real training starts in January so I'm just building up fitness and getting used to the running at the minute. Happy with how it's going so far. My body must be 70% lucozade at this point I'm sure. I'm aiming for 6 hours to complete it. Anything under is a massive bonus as far as I'm concerned and I get a medal as long as I finish inside 8 hours. I'll take 7:59! First thing Cancer Research UK asked me was do I want my name in my shirt and I said yes. Planning on setting up the just giving page this weekend and will throw up the link. I'm 27 but have had the fitness levels of a 40 year old since 21. I'm an utter shambles and am under no illusions what a ridiculous undertaking this is. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Ok sounds like things are going well. Don't push too hard at this stage. Serious suggestion. Have you thought about a run/walk approach. You could say run for 10 mins walk for 1 min and continuosly repeat this. There are two advantages to this. 1 The minute walking still means you cover distance but allows your heart rate to lower as long as you don't walk very slowly the difference between running and walking won't feel too bad. Believe me there will be plenty of people walking. 2 For runners aiming to just finish (ie people like me) it also helps build confidence in training as you can stay on your feet for a longer time than if you just keep running. If you feel happy running the whole way then just stick to that! As you tire your heart rate will increase. Basically the higher your heart rate the more energy you use up moving. Feel free to correct me anyone if I'm wrong on this but this is what I believe to be the case. I'm going to agree with Asha here on the long runs. I remember training for my first marathon and I built up slowly. My 16 mile and 18 mile long run went really badly and I started to doubt myself. However, I readjusted my pacing and my 20 miles went well and I felt at the end that I could have gone on. This gave me tremendous confidence on the day that I could complete it. I don't know if you are near a library but try and read the following book. Run Your First Marathon: everything you need to know to make it to the Finish Line by Greta Weitz. There are other books but this gives simple advice, basic stretching and a training schedule to get you round. It is worth a read even if you don't use it. I think you've set yourself a perfectly achievable target. There's one more piece of advice I forgot and that is pacing. Every single person I have known or seen struggle to finish a marathon usually has one of two reasons for this. The first is they have unfortunately picked up an injury whilst competing but by far the most common is pacing. Everyone is excited and nervous and pumped up at the start and it easy to get sucked in to this. As you train you will develop a sense of you race pace. At the start there will be people who will rush past you. Let them go you must stick to the pace you know you can manage. Very basically (and this is just a very wide estimate) you should anticipate completing the second half of the race in about 20 minutes longer than the first half. Maybe even longer. This is quite usual. If you find you have gone off too quickly then slow to a walking pace for a minute and calm yourself down. You can always speed up a bit towards the end if you feel like it but if you do the opposite then you will find it difficult. Keep us all posted how you are getting on and put a link to your just giving page or whatever you are using. Cheers
Buce Posted 23 November 2014 Posted 23 November 2014 Can anyone recommend an effective abdominal exercise? I have neither the time or inclination to join a gym, so it needs to be something equipment-free that I can add to my workout regime.
Vacamion Posted 23 November 2014 Posted 23 November 2014 Can anyone recommend an effective abdominal exercise? I have neither the time or inclination to join a gym, so it needs to be something equipment-free that I can add to my workout regime. Go to the jungle and allow an old man to drop coconuts onto your stomach from a tall tree.
Buce Posted 23 November 2014 Posted 23 November 2014 Sit Ups. Tried it, Strokesey, but your missus keeps pushing me back down...
bungle2bee Posted 23 November 2014 Posted 23 November 2014 After bit off advise runing my first ultra marathon in may after doing over 20 half's and only one full will have London full as training run but I'm trying to work out a training plan for the ultra you see thanks In advance
Raj Posted 23 November 2014 Posted 23 November 2014 no fooker on here can give you advice on an ultra marathon !!!
General Smuts Posted 24 November 2014 Posted 24 November 2014 Nussul - Reynard. Cheers again for the advice. Will look at that book and up my final run to 20. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
EnderbyFox Posted 24 November 2014 Posted 24 November 2014 Can anyone recommend an effective abdominal exercise? I have neither the time or inclination to join a gym, so it needs to be something equipment-free that I can add to my workout regime. I know you said equipment free, but you can pick this up fairly cheap. http://www.amazon.co.uk/66fit-Abdominal-Roller-Wheel-With/dp/B0044S28JA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1416843870&sr=8-1&keywords=abdominal+roller+wheel Been using for a while and find it a lot more effective than sit ups/crunches
Buce Posted 24 November 2014 Posted 24 November 2014 I know you said equipment free, but you can pick this up fairly cheap. http://www.amazon.co.uk/66fit-Abdominal-Roller-Wheel-With/dp/B0044S28JA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1416843870&sr=8-1&keywords=abdominal+roller+wheel Been using for a while and find it a lot more effective than sit ups/crunches That looks just the job - I think I'll put it in my letter to Santa. Thanks, Enderby.
reynard Posted 27 November 2014 Posted 27 November 2014 After bit off advise runing my first ultra marathon in may after doing over 20 half's and only one full will have London full as training run but I'm trying to work out a training plan for the ultra you see thanks In advance Are you doing 50k or 100k?
General Smuts Posted 5 December 2014 Posted 5 December 2014 Anyone else running with big Emile in the Santa run on Sunday?
Vacamion Posted 1 January 2015 Posted 1 January 2015 It's still dark up here, it's pissing down and I'm slightly hung over (I THINK those chest pains are indigestion). All in all, a New Year's Morning parkrun at 9.30 should see me right. (In before the NY resolutions mob)
Thommo Posted 2 January 2015 Posted 2 January 2015 Vacamion.... The park run starts at 9.00...... c u there!!!
Vacamion Posted 2 January 2015 Posted 2 January 2015 Vacamion.... The park run starts at 9.00...... c u there!!! Not in Scotland. 9.30 up here because of the dark winters. I've done well over 100 of them, so I speak from experience.
SystonFox Posted 2 January 2015 Posted 2 January 2015 Just been out for a post work run. Really struggled with a tight chest and was spluttering the whole time. Did about 4 miles in total but it wasn't great pace. Any suggestions on how to alleviate a tight chest whilst running? I am asthmatic if it helps
FoxesAreBlue Posted 2 January 2015 Posted 2 January 2015 Start off slow and try and do it at a the warmest point of the day that you can. The freezing air is not the best for you.
Merging Cultures Posted 2 January 2015 Posted 2 January 2015 Any suggestions on how to alleviate a tight chest whilst running? I am asthmatic if it helps I think that makes it worse.
SystonFox Posted 2 January 2015 Posted 2 January 2015 Start off slow and try and do it at a the warmest point of the day that you can. The freezing air is not the best for you. That was the warmest part of the day that I could possibly run. Yes the cold air probably didn't help. I think that makes it worse. It certainly doesn't help
FoxesAreBlue Posted 2 January 2015 Posted 2 January 2015 That was the warmest part of the day that I could possibly run. Yes the cold air probably didn't help. It certainly doesn't help If the asthma is aggregated by running outdoors at this time of year and it's severe I would recommend either indoor rowing or cycling or if you're not a member of a gym then do some circuits at home.If it's your first time exercising for a while it's better to start off slow rather than go too hard too soon. EDIT: That's an assumption that you haven't done it for a while, feel free to shut me up if it's not the case.
Raj Posted 2 January 2015 Posted 2 January 2015 Get your inhaled inside ya mate and get an asthma check.up to make sure all is well. Dont take the asthma lightly pal..I've got it too and can well fook me up sometimes....
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