Filberts lovechild Posted 12 May 2008 Posted 12 May 2008 He has the tactical nouse of a goat, very poor decision by MM. Fans will be on IH back from the first kick in League 1 now, so if we don't start the best then that will leave MM with another decision to make, do I change the manager again, get new players in etc etc! He has proven he is not good enough, why keep him?!?!?!?! First thing we need to do now though is reduce our sqaud to about 24 players, the size is ridiculous at the moment! And we must ensure we keep Maxi Gradel!!!
Manwell Pablo Posted 12 May 2008 Posted 12 May 2008 I'm glad If he gets rid of all the players you want him to it's going to be a very busy summer!
purpleronnie Posted 12 May 2008 Posted 12 May 2008 RL are saying Holloway has told them he is staying. Apparently he will be on the Radio shortly. :cry: :cry: If he said Business as usual that dosent necessarily mean he will still be the manager next season. Has he actually stated he will be the mamanger next season? Has MM confirmed it?
Jonezy Posted 12 May 2008 Posted 12 May 2008 I have serious mixed feelings about this. On one hand, I want Ollie to get the hell out, of the football club I support. He ruined our one goal scoring threat, set pieces. He didn't give our youngsters a chance. He kept playing Howard, when it surely wasn't working. He shuffled around with way to many line-ups and tactics to add to the unstability. He bought 2 players to change the season, Oakley and Howard, who came from experiencing nothing but losing for half a season. He said we needed wingers, and played our forwards on the wings. He said we needed leaders, and he didn't get one. He said judge my team, and his team wasn't good enough. He said no excuses, and excuses is everything we heard. I think he panics under pressure, and next season will be a lot of pressure. I'm not bloody impressed, and for him to continue, scares the shit out of me. I really thought he had a clue, but I'm seriously questioning it. On the other hand, I want some stability. I want someone, who knows the players and have an idea of what needs strengthening to do a whole pre-season, and not to be sacked if we are not starting life in League One running. I'm pretty sure, that if he gets the chance, he will have some serious motivation of putting things straight. I do not care, if this means some of our so called key players (Hume, McAuley, Kisnorbo...) will leave. These players were key players in the team, that got Leicester into third tier football for the first time ever. We really could do without another guy coming in with his staff, trying to get this club organized again. If Ollie can motivate Stearman to become player of the year, after most of Foxestalk wanted him replaced with Chambers ASAP, he surely must be frickin able to motivate other players as well. I'm still not bloody impressed, but keeping Ollie might just be the right way to go forward. If he really is staying, just to get the sack after a few games into the new season, I'm really not sure how I would react, but it probably wont be nice.
breadandcheese Posted 12 May 2008 Posted 12 May 2008 Just when I thought I was getting over relegation, looking forward to a new start, up pops Milan with this decision. I would like to know what Holloway supporters have seen in his performance so far to justify their's and Milan's faith in him.
Legend_in_blue Posted 12 May 2008 Posted 12 May 2008 Well I think the players tried hard. They didn't want to go down. They felt sad when they did. WHen Hendo made the penlty saves all the players were celebrating wildly. It is all too easy to talk about motivation as if it is a sliding scale of how much a team wants to win. But I think everytime a footballer goes out on to the pitch they have th desire to win, there is sadly a lot more to it than that.Did they have the right mentality in the sense they believed they could win games? Absaloutely not, they were being told they were shit every week by the manager. Did they try and win games? In some sense no. It is not that they were not doing what they were told to do at the best of their ability, it is just they were sent out to get a 0-0 in almost all away matches. Were they scared of failure? Absaloutely yes, players did not want to ball in difficult situations or to try difficult passes that will actually progress an attack. Again down to a lack of confidence and a fear factor. Motivation is NOT about giving CHurchillian speeches and taking players on boot camps. It is about giving players the confidence and the licence to play to the best of their ability. The fear and negativity that was prevelant in our club was absaloutely part Holloway's doing. He did plenty to foster it and nothing to dispell it. I tell you what, the more I read in this thread, the more worked up I get! A load of nonsense is being flown about with absolutely no credibility or concrete evidence to support it one bit. To suggest that IH told the team they were **** every week is complete nonsense. You cannot be serious. Unfortunately, IHs task of keeping the team together was built on very dodgy foundations - mainly a lack of quality within the squad, a lack of players who could fit certain positions, a defensive mindset, a lack of a leader on the pitch etc etc... And to suggest that throwing any amount of money at it would improve things - is ludicrous. And to do so during a January transfer window? You're having a laugh! Give the guy a summer to prepare and chuck out those who aren't interested! As for motivation - that comes from within - it's called pride - and many of our players didn't show it, didn't look like showing it, bottled it. Bottlers - OUT. OLLIES ARMY!!! He gets my vote.
Master Fox Posted 12 May 2008 Posted 12 May 2008 If he gets rid of all the players you want him to it's going to be a very busy summer! That is what's needed. Should have been done last season, like i said back then. Not one of the players who played in the last four games of the season should be kept. ALL OF THEM MUST GO. There's no good saying now "Lets keep Hume" or "Fryatt will score goals in League 1" because they won't. Sell Mattock, sell Stearman, just fcuking get rid of them all. The sqaud we've got now isn't good enough to get out of League 1. If we don't, we'll be fcuked. Again! Nothing else matters, this is the main job that needs to be done to move forward. Ollie should, i hope, do this for the sake of everyone. Forget everthing else, cull that awful squad. Sack the fcuking lot of them.
Foxy1984 Posted 12 May 2008 Posted 12 May 2008 Business as usual... I'd say... ...... sadly.. business hasn't been so good recently
coale39 Posted 12 May 2008 Posted 12 May 2008 I personally just want stability. Someone who knows the players and will be highly motivated.
mancunianfox Posted 12 May 2008 Posted 12 May 2008 Most of the players who bottled it and didn't look like they wanted it were signed by Holloway!!!! What makes you believe that he wouldn't sign another eleven players who don't care? The way forward will never be to sign a bunch of players who are glad of a final decent payday before they retire. We need to sign ambitious, hungry players who are committed to the cause and so far Ian Holloway has signed none of those despite having brought in a lot of players.
Eastern Fox Posted 12 May 2008 Posted 12 May 2008 That is what's needed. Should have been done last season, like i said back then. Not one of the players who played in the last four games of the season should be kept. ALL OF THEM MUST GO.There's no good saying now "Lets keep Hume" or "Fryatt will score goals in League 1" because they won't. Sell Mattock, sell Stearman, just fcuking get rid of them all. The sqaud we've got now isn't good enough to get out of League 1. If we don't, we'll be fcuked. Again! Nothing else matters, this is the main job that needs to be done to move forward. Ollie should, i hope, do this for the sake of everyone. Forget everthing else, cull that awful squad. Sack the fcuking lot of them. You're just an attention seeking idiot are'nt you. The 'sack all the players' line got boring ages ago: if the club actually did what you're saying, it would be paying millions in compensation to cover cancelled contracts. It's absolutely riduculous that you think Hume or Mattock aren't good enough for League One. I hope you just have a very dry sense of humour and you're not completely delusional. Where do we get players better than Mattock, Stearman or Hume from anyway?
lookwhaticando Posted 12 May 2008 Posted 12 May 2008 OS: "Business as usual" says Mandaric. It still hasn't been written/said explicitly that Holloway is staying and will manage the team next season.
SamL Posted 12 May 2008 Posted 12 May 2008 OS: "Business as usual" says Mandaric. It still hasn't been written/said explicitly that Holloway is staying and will manage the team next season. I'd presume that if he's planning for next season, Holloway will still be here. There's no point letting a manager build a squad over the summer, only to get sacked, bring in another new manager who will want to build his own squad.
breadandcheese Posted 12 May 2008 Posted 12 May 2008 That is what's needed. Should have been done last season, like i said back then. Not one of the players who played in the last four games of the season should be kept. ALL OF THEM MUST GO.There's no good saying now "Lets keep Hume" or "Fryatt will score goals in League 1" because they won't. Sell Mattock, sell Stearman, just fcuking get rid of them all. The sqaud we've got now isn't good enough to get out of League 1. If we don't, we'll be fcuked. Again! Nothing else matters, this is the main job that needs to be done to move forward. Ollie should, i hope, do this for the sake of everyone. Forget everthing else, cull that awful squad. Sack the fcuking lot of them. Based on this, what makes you think Holloway will be better able to spend money this time rather than the £2.1 million he spent on Howard, Hayles and Oakley, not to mention the additional wages we will have spent on loan signings (Alnwick, Clapham, Laczko, Bori, Etuhu, Hendrie)?
Fox in a Box Posted 12 May 2008 Posted 12 May 2008 OS: "Business as usual" says Mandaric. It still hasn't been written/said explicitly that Holloway is staying and will manage the team next season. read the new thread you gimp
Master Fox Posted 12 May 2008 Posted 12 May 2008 You're just an attention seeking idiot are'nt you. The 'sack all the players' line got boring ages ago: if the club actually did what you're saying, it would paying millions in compensation to cover cancelled contracts. It's absolutely riduculous you think that Hume or Mattock aren't good enough for League One. Where do we get players better than Mattock, Stearman or Hume from anyway? Right. Are you telling me we can't find better players than Mattock and Stearman? You fcuking dumb ****. As for Hume, he's the biggest pile of sh*t that's ever played for Leicester. Our youth players will do a far better job than any of the donkey's who were known as our first team. SACK THE PLAYERS!
TrickyTrev Posted 12 May 2008 Posted 12 May 2008 I tell you what, the more I read in this thread, the more worked up I get! A load of nonsense is being flown about with absolutely no credibility or concrete evidence to support it one bit. To suggest that IH told the team they were **** every week is complete nonsense. You cannot be serious. Unfortunately, IHs task of keeping the team together was built on very dodgy foundations - mainly a lack of quality within the squad, a lack of players who could fit certain positions, a defensive mindset, a lack of a leader on the pitch etc etc... And to suggest that throwing any amount of money at it would improve things - is ludicrous. And to do so during a January transfer window? You're having a laugh! Give the guy a summer to prepare and chuck out those who aren't interested! As for motivation - that comes from within - it's called pride - and many of our players didn't show it, didn't look like showing it, bottled it. Bottlers - OUT. OLLIES ARMY!!! He gets my vote. Well I don't think I have heard a post-match interview after a defeat where Holloway hasn't blamed the players, even in those matches where it was evidently his fault. There may be a lack of quality in our squad, but the 3rd worst squad in the league, you've got to be havin a bubble? Clemence, Oakley, Kisnorbo, Stearman, Hume. These are some of the best players in the league. We had some great young players he chose to ignore, Gradel and Wesolowski being the obvious ones. The same set of players, minus Ollie's signings, had us comfortably mid table when he arrived in November. It was him that turned them into relegation material. He did this because quite rightly he wanted to make us a more attackign side. But he didn't have a clue how! He didn't use our best attackign players, in stead used the immobile duo of Holloway and Hayles. When we needed to score he would sub off midfield players and replace them with forwards, giving us no shape or plan of attack. Worst of all he went for 0-0's away from home. Even in a match that we needed to win to keep us in the division. I will happily say our relegation was down to a myriad of facotrs. Under performing players in one of them. Poor planning in pre-season another. But Holloway managed us for most of the season and he managed us very badly. ANyone that thinks it was a case of a blameless manager taking charge of an already doomed side is delusional. If he had done a mediocre job we'd of stayed mid table. He had to do a very bad one and a very bad one he did.
Eastern Fox Posted 12 May 2008 Posted 12 May 2008 Right.Are you telling me we can't find better players than Mattock and Stearman? You fcuking dumb ****. As for Hume, he's the biggest pile of sh*t that's ever played for Leicester. Our youth players will do a far better job than any of the donkey's who were known as our first team. SACK THE PLAYERS! You're the dumb **** mate if actually think we can attract people of the quality or better than those players next season. Inept footballers that Holloway brought in like Hayles and Howard were the reason we didn't score enough goals and didn't stay up. Don't blame the defence or our best striker that was shunted into midfield.
Master Fox Posted 12 May 2008 Posted 12 May 2008 Based on this, what makes you think Holloway will be better able to spend money this time rather than the £2.1 million he spent on Howard, Hayles and Oakley, not to mention the additional wages we will have spent on loan signings (Alnwick, Clapham, Laczko, Bori, Etuhu, Hendrie)? When we signed these players, most of the people on here were over the moon. All good on paper, but all turned out to be sh*t. Players fault.
Wycombe Fox Posted 12 May 2008 Posted 12 May 2008 Ian Holloway has stated to Radio Leicester that its "Business as usual" and confirmed he will be staying as Leicester City manager.................. If anybody actually used those words, 'business as usual', then I'm very scared. That would be a crass, flippant choice of words. 'Business as usual' isn't what we what. 'Business as usual' will see us relegated again next season. I'm going to wake up in a minute from a very deep sleep, just a couple of hours before the Stoke game. Go and get the beers in and watch City as we pulverise the Stoke defence to claim a 3-0 win, stay up and relegate Cov...
Dr The Singh Posted 12 May 2008 Posted 12 May 2008 Right.Are you telling me we can't find better players than Mattock and Stearman? You fcuking dumb ****. As for Hume, he's the biggest pile of sh*t that's ever played for Leicester. Our youth players will do a far better job than any of the donkey's who were known as our first team. SACK THE PLAYERS! Another bad weekend MF, i told you to join us at Mandella Park, we would have had a great time!!
breadandcheese Posted 12 May 2008 Posted 12 May 2008 I personally just want stability. Someone who knows the players and will be highly motivated. Is this the same Holloway who knew that our top scoring striker's place was either on the bench or on the wing? I still shudder at the stupidity during the Wednesday game when he moved Hume, the thorn in Wednesday's side, back to midfield to instead push Hayles up front.
Master Fox Posted 12 May 2008 Posted 12 May 2008 You're the dumb **** mate if actually think we can attract people of the quality or better than those players next season. Inept footballers that Holloway brought in like Hayles and Howard were the reason we didn't score enough goals and didn't stay up. Don't blame the defence or our best striker that was shunted into midfield. I blame every single one of them. The fact we kept players like Fryatt & Hume last season was a joke. But i'm not arguing about it. I've made my point very clear. But the biggest amount of ineptitude comes from our fans, like you.
Miquel The Work Geordie Posted 12 May 2008 Posted 12 May 2008 When we signed these players, most of the people on here were over the moon. All good on paper, but all turned out to be sh*t. Players fault. Right. And who signed the players?
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