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Milan "Expects" Ince Permission.

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Babylon

Babylon

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Sounds to me like Mandy has given up on Ince !

I'm sure MK Don's reluctance to let him talk OR Ince's indication that he doesn't want to talk to City (he came back from holiday on Sunday apparently) means MM is having to 'move on'.

Grayson the next target ? I reckon we'll be hearing about trying to get permission to talk to him today or Thursday. He certainly fits MM's desire to get a manager in who has got promotion from League 1. And Mandy sounds like he definitely wants someone by next week.

What part of “But I am not giving up on it. He is a strong candidate and is definitely someone we want to talk to.” makes you think he has given up?

:S

Daggers

Daggers

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Leicester City chairman Milan Mandaric is “not giving up” on managerial candidate Paul Ince
Sounds to me like Mandy has given up on Ince !

:laugh:

Ince was never anything more than a sop to the supporters - he'd not be in real consideration because he'd only be here for a year and a bit before jumping ship. The man coming in will be offering stability so that we can post threads like "Do you remember what it was like to go through the managerial appointment process?" and "Wasn't hunting for so many managers a crock of shit?"

Babylon

Babylon

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Ince is first choice no matter what he says. MK Dons are playing a clever game, they are going to wait for Ince to return from holida. They aren't going to force the matter as they probably hope we will walk away because of the delay.

The People's Hero

The People's Hero

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Is this guy a genuine MK Dons fan? Or will he be off as soon as another club is bought, moved and bastardised, robbing another club of it's identity, soul and the very essence of it's being?

davieG

davieG

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An interview from last year: It's a bit long but gives an insight into how he's changed as a manager.

here is something from the Guardian from 2007.

The Guv'nor has gone and now, in his place, the lonely but thoughtful manager of Macclesfield Town sits on a plastic chair in a dingy corner of Moss Rose. Paul Ince looks across at the ramshackle stadium where little more than 2,000 fans usually turn up to watch a game in the basement of English football - the very bottom of League Two.

"If there's one thing I've noticed about this job," Ince says, "it's the loneliness. As a player you're one of 15 or 16 lads and after a match it's a case of 'Great, game's over, I'm on my way out' - what a buzz. You have a few beers with your mates and then you're off clubbing and you only get in at four in the morning. You're not thinking about your midfield partner who might have struggled that afternoon. You just think 'Yeah, I played well, that's all that matters'. I was like that once, but I'm very different as a manager.

"I worry endlessly about my players and now, after a game, we might have won and I'll be bubbling inside but I just go home and think 'What should I do on Monday? Do I have a go at them for some sloppy play today, or can I help this player or that player? Should I watch some football tapes tonight?' It's a testing and solitary business."

Ince swapped the self-proclaimed Guv'nor role he produced for six English clubs, as well as Internazionale and England, for his first managerial job in late October. Macclesfield were seven points adrift of their closest rivals in 92nd place in the Football League. They had not won a game in their first 17 fixtures of the season. Ince has since engineered a remarkable revival. Macclesfield have hauled themselves off the foot of the table after an unbeaten run - including Saturday's 1-0 win over fellow strugglers Torquay and yesterday's home win against Lincoln - stretching to 10 matches in which they have earned 19 out of a possible 21 points in their last seven games.

Excitement among the Silkmen will intensify as Macclesfield prepare for this Saturday's FA Cup third round - and a lucrative and glamorous tie against Chelsea at Stamford Bridge. Ince, however, concentrates on his jolting adjustment to lower-league management. "We've got only two scouts - one in the north, one in the south and no one in the midlands. And our two guys are not always available so I often drive 200 miles down to London to watch a player. He might be a donkey but he could also be promising. So you go.

"You then get back to the office and 100 emails about players from different countries. You look at a CV and think 'Naaah! Chuck that one in the bin.' But a couple of minutes later I'm fishing it out, thinking 'Have I missed a good player here?' It's a steep learning curve."

Ince is currently in discussion with Sir Alex Ferguson about loaning some young players from Manchester United. "Fergie's been really helpful even if I never quite knew where I stood with him. But the great thing about him when I was there was that he put together such a mentally tough team. He would have a go at me or Roy Keane or Eric Cantona and our response was 'Right, we'll show you on the pitch'.

"If I did the same to my players it would demolish them. You can't use an iron fist here. So I'm quite warm with them and it seems to be working. Two months ago they were buried - but now they've given themselves a real chance."

At United Ince won two Premiership titles, the European Cup Winners' Cup and two FA Cups, the last of which was a 4-0 drubbing of Chelsea in 1994. He also played 53 times for England - and yet his deeper pride is obvious when he claims that "none of that will match the feeling I'll get if I end up seeing my players' smiles should we stay in this league".

As a player Ince harboured a grandiose belief in his own supposed greatness. Yet he is now far more generous towards those around him. "I've actually been surprised by their quality. The biggest task I faced was getting that same belief into them. But as soon as the first win came they were away. It was an FA Cup replay at Walsall. They were top of the table and afterwards I said 'Listen, if you can beat that lot, you can beat anyone in this league'. It gave them a massive lift."

If Ince laughs engagingly while describing a recent league match against Accrington Stanley - in which Macclesfield came from behind to take a 3-2 lead in the 89th minute only to concede an equaliser seconds before the end- he insists that he is always cool in the dugout. "You never see me celebrating. I didn't move because I knew. At United we scored so often in the last minute that it's never over until that final whistle."

A fierce ambition is wrapped inside these new layers of composure. "I will become a Premiership manager," he stresses before revealing his acute disappointment at losing out to Mick McCarthy when Wolves replaced Glenn Hoddle. "I'd been there four years as a player and 66% of the fans said they wanted me. I was fretting before the interview as I didn't know what to expect. But I decided to be myself and said exactly what the club needed - and how I could provide that. Afterwards Jez Moxey, the chief executive, told me I'd done fantastically. He said 'Paul, you came up with things we never thought we'd hear from you.' So it was gutting when they said I didn't get the job because of my lack of experience."

In stressing how difficult it is for emerging English managers, Ince says "it annoys me whenever a big job comes up and the same old names roll out. There are a lot of up-and-coming English managers like Phil Parkinson who did a great job [at Colchester]. They're young and have fresh ideas. Give them a chance."

Ince also points to the racism that still stains English football. Keith Alexander, the only other black manager in England, has been ignored by many clubs. "He's at Peterborough now but look at his great work at Lincoln. No one would give him a chance to go to the next level. But his record is second to none in getting teams into promotion play-offs. You wonder why and the only conclusion you can reach is that it's because of his colour.

"I'm not accusing anyone but it's strange that all the great black British players from the past have just disappeared. It would be lovely if I could break that mould. I was the first black captain England ever had, and becoming the first black English Premiership manager would be another milestone."

Ince will get a small taste of management at that more exalted level against Jose Mourinho. "I've met him a couple of times and he's a lovely man and a great manager. People say 'Yeah, he's got the money' but Mourinho won the Champions League with Porto. That shows his calibre. I'd love it if he sent out his Under-18s against us but that ain't gonna happen. Frankie Lampard certainly seems up for it. I keep telling Frank I'll do him in the tunnel after the game."

The 39-year-old Ince will be eligible to make his debut as a Macclesfield player on Saturday - a notion he dismisses - and smiles proudly when told he sounds every inch a manager. "It's good, innit? As a player I still think I could be in the Premiership but I'm a manager now. I'm hoping this game will earn us enough to bring in three or four new players. But if we force a replay we'd obviously be quite happy to go back to Stamford Bridge. The best thing would be beating Chelsea and getting Man United in the next round."

He might chortle at his old cheek but there is little sign of the "big-time Charlie" whom Ferguson once railed against. "This is real football," Ince says inside Macclesfield's cramped stadium. "Coming to this small ground my players don't earn 90 grand a year, let alone a week. But they work hard and I now see them believing in themselves and in me."

Then, with words that might have horrified him in the days when he called himself The Guv'nor, Ince smiles wryly. "You never know," he murmurs. "Macclesfield might be the making of me."

About this articleClose This article appeared in the Guardian on Tuesday January 02 2007 on p8 of the Stories section. It was last updated at 00:32 on January 02 2007.

teblin

teblin

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According to the BBC, Ince has had no contact from Blackburn so surely he's back from his holiday by now? Seems like MK Dons are playing silly beggars.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/t...ers/7448118.stm

Alot of the stuff in the mercury etc.. will be an interview from yesterday, We could well get permission to speak to him without it being released in the press and be talking to him now.

Though with the 2 chairman involved i think thats unlikely.

davieG

davieG

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DavieG - The copy and paste king. :cool:

Nah it was the assistant ref what cut and pasted it. :thumbup:

davieG

davieG

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This 'just one thread for discussing Ince in' thing is really working out :whistle:

I think a merge is in the offing :thumbup:

Number 6

Number 6

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The BBC article makes me think Ince is choosing between Blackburn (if the offer comes) and staying at MKDs, I think he is off our list.

teblin

teblin

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The BBC article makes me think Ince is choosing between Blackburn (if the offer comes) and staying at MKDs, I think he is off our list.

They didn't ask him about us so why would he mention it?

Dr The Singh

Dr The Singh

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The BBC article makes me think Ince is choosing between Blackburn (if the offer comes) and staying at MKDs, I think he is off our list.

I didn't read it like that, Ince states:

"I'm not sure what the situation is and in the next two or three days I'll probably have a better idea of what's going on."

Although those comments were aimed towards the Blackburn job, I think we can relate it to us, So by the end of the week we'll know if he's interested or not???

Darkzzz_

Darkzzz_

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I personally would be suprised if he became our next manager after this press release!

I think he will stay at MK Donalds..... He knows as well as the whole country what Mandy is like!!

He wont want us tarnishing his CV....

Number 6

Number 6

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I personally would be suprised if he became our next manager after this press release!

I think he will stay at MK Donalds..... He knows as well as the whole country what Mandy is like!!

He wont want us tarnishing his CV....

But how impressive a job it would be if he managed to buck the trend and keep his job for a year, maybe longer, and stabilise a club that has been in decline for a number of years.

Darkzzz_

Darkzzz_

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But how impressive a job it would be if he managed to buck the trend and keep his job for a year, maybe longer, and stabilise a club that has been in decline for a number of years.

When you put it like that :thumbup:

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