Tennis

[Aus Fox]

3 minutes ago, Raj said:

So just quickly(Sorry mate, your the Aussie  spokesman!( what's the law on the vaccination program there?

You MUST be vaccinated unless exempt?

What happens if you refuse(You must have anti vaxxers there too?)

We have a lot of anti vaxxers, their is no law which requires citizens to be vaccinated, however, in Victoria where the open will take place a lot of occupations including healthcare workers, hospitality, trades people, teachers and professional sports have mandatory vaccination. So no jab, no job. 
Many nonessential business will also require proof of vaccination status before you are allowed to enter the premises.

Hence, a lot of Australians who have been required to be vaccinated were not happy about a rich tennis player receiving an exemption.

[Super_horns]

I presume that is the end of it all ?

 

Probably good for the tournament in a way - attention will be on everyone not just one person 

[Tanya]

16 minutes ago, Super_horns said:

I presume that is the end of it all ?

 

Probably good for the tournament in a way - attention will be on everyone not just one person 

Yes it's the end of it now.

 

But what intrigues me is if the government keeps Novak out for three years. He's banned now, so, in theory he'll never be back here to play tennis.

 

 

 

[Raj]

1 hour ago, Aus Fox said:

We have a lot of anti vaxxers, their is no law which requires citizens to be vaccinated, however, in Victoria where the open will take place a lot of occupations including healthcare workers, hospitality, trades people, teachers and professional sports have mandatory vaccination. So no jab, no job. 
Many nonessential business will also require proof of vaccination status before you are allowed to enter the premises.

Hence, a lot of Australians who have been required to be vaccinated were not happy about a rich tennis player receiving an exemption.

So if this open was played MOT in Victoria, hed have been allowed to play?

[Aus Fox]

30 minutes ago, Raj said:

So if this open was played MOT in Victoria, hed have been allowed to play?

Entry to the country is a federal issue, the Government control boarders, so it wouldn’t have mattered where in the country the open was played. 

[Raj]

2 minutes ago, Aus Fox said:

Entry to the country is a federal issue, the Government control boarders, so it wouldn’t have mattered where in the country the open was played. 

But they let him in, had a court case and was allowed to stay but THEN the Minister decided to kick him out.

It's all abit sh1t.

Hey ho though.

 

[Aus Fox]

Just now, Raj said:

But they let him in, had a court case and was allowed to stay but THEN the Minister decided to kick him out.

It's all abit sh1t.

Hey ho though.

 

It’s massively shite and sums up this Australian Government. The one shining light from this is it could be the final nail in the coffin of the Morrison Government. 

[Raj]

44 minutes ago, Aus Fox said:

It’s massively shite and sums up this Australian Government. The one shining light from this is it could be the final nail in the coffin of the Morrison Government. 

Seems like they have just reacted to the concencus  of opinion?

Nice discussing and getting your insight mate x

[Zear0]

1 hour ago, Aus Fox said:

It’s massively shite and sums up this Australian Government. The one shining light from this is it could be the final nail in the coffin of the Morrison Government. 

Anyway way this helps him? Granted a bit shambolic how it was discharged, but imagine it was a generally popular move? 

[dsr-burnley]

14 hours ago, Raj said:

But they let him in, had a court case and was allowed to stay but THEN the Minister decided to kick him out.

It's all abit [deleted].

Hey ho though.

 

As I understand it, the first court case was based on the presumption that the visa application was true.  The second was after it was found that the visa application contained at least one factual inaccuracy, about whether he had travelled internationally in the fortnight before going to Australia.

 

He had (as I understand it) three ways of legally travelling to Australia.

 

1.  Be vaccinated.

2.  Travel as normal and do 10 days' quarantine.

3.  Qualify for exemption and fill in a correct visa form.

 

Filling in an inaccurate visa form is not, and never has been, a way of getting into Australia.  Australian immigration is notoriously fussy about details, even if you aren't rich and famous.

[Jon the Hat]

34 minutes ago, dsr-burnley said:

As I understand it, the first court case was based on the presumption that the visa application was true.  The second was after it was found that the visa application contained at least one factual inaccuracy, about whether he had travelled internationally in the fortnight before going to Australia.

 

He had (as I understand it) three ways of legally travelling to Australia.

 

1.  Be vaccinated.

2.  Travel as normal and do 10 days' quarantine.

3.  Qualify for exemption and fill in a correct visa form.

 

Filling in an inaccurate visa form is not, and never has been, a way of getting into Australia.  Australian immigration is notoriously fussy about details, even if you aren't rich and famous.

It is good to see in this case being rich and famous is not the basis for an exception.  Earlier in the game, a number of rich and famous were allowed to quarantine at home when everyone else had to stay in a hotel.

[Jon the Hat]

15 hours ago, Aus Fox said:

It’s massively shite and sums up this Australian Government. The one shining light from this is it could be the final nail in the coffin of the Morrison Government. 

I think most Australians support the outcome tbh.  They would have seen him turned away at the airport on day 1.

[Aus Fox]

23 minutes ago, Jon the Hat said:

I think most Australians support the outcome tbh.  They would have seen him turned away at the airport on day 1.

Absolutely, the result was the correct one, the method was shite and a farce. 

[Aus Fox]

1 hour ago, dsr-burnley said:

As I understand it, the first court case was based on the presumption that the visa application was true.  The second was after it was found that the visa application contained at least one factual inaccuracy, about whether he had travelled internationally in the fortnight before going to Australia.

 

He had (as I understand it) three ways of legally travelling to Australia.

 

1.  Be vaccinated.

2.  Travel as normal and do 10 days' quarantine.

3.  Qualify for exemption and fill in a correct visa form.

 

Filling in an inaccurate visa form is not, and never has been, a way of getting into Australia.  Australian immigration is notoriously fussy about details, even if you aren't rich and famous.

The first court case was won by Novak on a technicality, he was given initially until 8:30 to produce supporting documentation by boarder force on arrival, they then canceled his Visa at 7:45 and didn’t give him the allocated time frame to produce his material.

The premise for the second court case was basically that he would stir up antivax sentiments in the community and therefor posed a risk to lawfulness in the country.

 

[ozleicester]

23 hours ago, Tanya said:

Yes it's the end of it now.

 

But what intrigues me is if the government keeps Novak out for three years. He's banned now, so, in theory he'll never be back here to play tennis.

 

 

 

the scumbag PM is already backpedalling on that... https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-17/scott-morrison-novak-djokovic-australian-ban/100760742

 

22 hours ago, Raj said:

But they let him in, had a court case and was allowed to stay but THEN the Minister decided to kick him out.

It's all abit sh1t.

Hey ho though.

 

This is the problem in Oz.. the immigration minister has complete power (and ignores international law, because it please the racist right wingers)... and that's why we have refugees locked up for 9 years ......imagine arriving in aus as a 15 year old and now your 24 and always been in prison having committed no crime.

 

20 hours ago, Zear0 said:

Anyway way this helps him? Granted a bit shambolic how it was discharged, but imagine it was a generally popular move? 

Was a very handy distraction to empty shelves in supermarkets and corrupt Liberal party (Tory) mates charging $70 for a rapid Antigen Test.

When asked why they were charging so much.. surprisingly, none of them said.. suck it up bitch, thats capitalism, supply and demand you know!

Edited 17 January 2022 by ozleicester

[Dr Marco]

Emma starting tomorrow morning! Come On Emma! It's gonna be tough but you can do it!

[rachhere]

Classic Murraycoaster. So pleased he got the 5 set win. 

[HighPeakFox]

Just now, rachhere said:

Classic Murraycoaster. So pleased he got the 5 set win. 

The guy is ridiculous (in a good way)

[purpleronnie]

Amazing by Murray.

 

The aussie crowd going crazy for kyrgios.

[Jimothy]

Kyrgios too good for Broady. Thought Broady held his own as the set played out, but Kyrgios took early breaks and he couldn't get the break back.

[leicsmac]

What other player has managed to still be top 50 (perhaps even top 20) quality at singles level after a full hip replacement?

 

Amazing from Andy. Maybe, just maybe, he has one or two more Masters titles in the tank.

 

Though I think it's sad that he's won about half the Slams he probably deserved to.

[Jimothy]

Raucanu a break up after 2 games. Keep it up!

[foxes_rule1978]

6 minutes ago, Facecloth said:

Raucanu a break up after 2 games. Keep it up!

She is looking great at the moment 

[rachhere]

She certainly likes playing grand slams. 

[leicsmac]

Radacanu clearly rusty then.