JoeyB Posted 7 October 2008 Posted 7 October 2008 Would we not get compo because he is 22 and under if someone signs him on the bosman just like Bury did with Nicky adams. Also if we sell him Ricky Lambert would be a great target
LCFC123 Posted 7 October 2008 Posted 7 October 2008 i think he'll make it still in the championship, still young with time to improve. this season could be just what he needs to make that step up to be ready to play at the next level, he has got all the right attributes to be able to progress at a higher level
Lovejoy Posted 7 October 2008 Posted 7 October 2008 Yes i have thanks, i've got a season ticket and went most of the away games last season and so far this season and no i don't care to point out the goals Fryatt scored in the championship because i think we are all well aware as it comes up on here time after time So you don't think he was out of his depth then? We didn't get relegated because amongst other things most of the players played dog awful week in, week out? Have a butchers at this anyone who doesn't think he didn't have enough chance to prove what he could do in the Championship.
Fox You Forest Posted 7 October 2008 Posted 7 October 2008 So you don't think he was out of his depth then? We didn't get relegated because amongst other things most of the players played dog awful week in, week out?Have a butchers at this anyone who doesn't think he didn't have enough chance to prove what he could do in the Championship. It's all well and good looking at that, It doesn't tell me how many times he played on the wing though. Last season should be left in the past why do people insist on bringing it back up week after week.
Lovejoy Posted 7 October 2008 Posted 7 October 2008 It's all well and good looking at that, It doesn't tell me how many times he played on the wing though.Last season should be left in the past why do people insist on bringing it back up week after week. Because people were discussing whether we should sell or not (if the opportunity arose of course) and would we really miss him IF we were promoted to the Championship .
The Blur Posted 8 October 2008 Posted 8 October 2008 So you don't think he was out of his depth then? We didn't get relegated because amongst other things most of the players played dog awful week in, week out?Have a butchers at this anyone who doesn't think he didn't have enough chance to prove what he could do in the Championship. Very well but i noticed in his first season, in 18 starts he grabbed six goals so that work out a goal ratio of one goal per three matches which is not bad so with 46 games he could have about 15 goals which is quite good that is if he played like he did when he first joined us
Ric Flair Posted 8 October 2008 Posted 8 October 2008 It amazes me that some of you think he's not good enough for the Championship. Just because he was poor in the last 2 seasons for us, doesn't necessarily mean he's never going to succeed at that level. He's 22 for god sake, and when he first came to us he looked more than good enough at Championship level. Mainly due to him being fit and confident from his stint at Walsall in League One. He's now back at that level, regained his confidence and is a lot fitter and he is scoring at an incredible rate. There is absolutely no reason why he can't do that at a higher level as long as the 2 ingredients of fitness and confidence are there. He's never going to burn past 6 players and rip them in, but he get's himself in good positions at least 2 or 3 times a game and although there's debate as to whether he is expected to score from every single chance, he's capable of putting 1 of them a way pretty much per game and that's a massive asset. Plus there's room for improvement, the lad is still very young. Some of you are more than happy to say they'd rather have someone like Lambert or McLean, yet they are even less proven than Fryatt. There are countless occasions where a player re-finds his form and goes on to play at a higher level, I could list them all day long. Just because Fryatt didn't score 10-15 goals in the last 2 seasons will in no way play a part on whether he will or can achieve at a higher level. I still stand by my statement I made the other week, that we would not get a better striker at this level for less than a million. Better the devil you know. He's in the form of his life and has a manager who believes in him and is pushing him hard.
Webbo Posted 8 October 2008 Posted 8 October 2008 It amazes me that some of you think he's not good enough for the Championship. Just because he was poor in the last 2 seasons for us, doesn't necessarily mean he's never going to succeed at that level. He's 22 for god sake, Agreed, it's quite possible he won't hit his peak until he's 24/25. Add to that his injury problems last season and the fact he was in a team that performed badly as a whole it's time people got off his back.
martyn Posted 8 October 2008 Posted 8 October 2008 CLUNK The sound of Ric Flair hitting the nail on the head.
Alexikokopops Posted 8 October 2008 Posted 8 October 2008 Would we not get compo because he is 22 and under if someone signs him on the bosman just like Bury did with Nicky adams.Also if we sell him Ricky Lambert would be a great target You get compensation if the player is under 24. If he's over 24 you get nothing. Not sure if they're actually 24, I can never remember. It's all well and good looking at that, It doesn't tell me how many times he played on the wing though.Last season should be left in the past why do people insist on bringing it back up week after week. Yes, but my post here does. He had his chance last season and wasn't good enough (21 games as a striker with 3 goals before he was played on the wing). However he's proved his worth in League 1 and with the confidence and a decent manager I'd be willing to give him a crack again if we get promoted. I know you also complained about bring last season up but blaming Fryatt's poor record on him playing on the wing is one of my pet peeves Under Allen:Accrington away, forward, 0 goals Under Megson: Forest away, forward (sub), 0 goals Charlton away, forward, 0 goals Villa away, forward, 1 goal Stoke home, forward, 1 goal Wolves home, forward, 0 goals Wednesday away, forward, 0 goals Sheff Utd home, forward, 0 goals Under Burrows and Taggart: Barnsley home, forward, 0 goals Chelsea away, forward, 0 goals Colchester away, forward, 0 goals Preston away, forward, 0 goals Burnley home, forward, 0 goals Under Holloway: Bristol City away, forward, 1 goal (plus red card) Cardiff home, forward, 0 goals (3 games missed due to suspension) Ipswich away, forward, 0 goals Hull away, forward, 0 goals Wolves away, forward, 0 goals Ipswich home, forward, 0 goals Charlton home, forward, 0 goals QPR away, forward, 0 goals Southampton away, forward, 0 goals (dropped for the first time under Holloway, after 9 games and 1 goal playing up front under him, 5 games and 0 goals up front under Burrows and Taggart, and 7 games and 2 goals under Megson. That's 21 games and 3 goals playing as a forward since Megson took charge, having missed just four games since then, with three of those through suspension. To suggest he wasn't given a chance was ludicrous) Plymouth home, wing (sub), 0 goals Norwich home, forward (sub), 0 goals Preston home, forward (sub), 0 goals Bristol City home, wing (sub), 0 goals Southampton away, wing/forward (sub), 0 goals West Brom away, wing, 0 goals Hull home, wing, 0 goals S****horpe home, forward, 0 goals Sheff Utd away, forward, 0 goals Colchester home, forward (sub), 0 goals Wednesday home, wing/forward (sub), 0 goals Stoke away, forward (sub), 0 goals Disclaimer: This isn't negativity towards Fryatt this season. It is merely to shatter the myth that he wasn't given a chance up front last season. 21 games (only one of those a sub appearance) played as a striker with three goals scored before he was dropped vindicates the decision if you ask me. It was only after this that he was played on the wing. Can we please put it all to bed now?
Guest ttfn Posted 9 October 2008 Posted 9 October 2008 You get compensation if the player is under 24. If he's over 24 you get nothing. Not sure if they're actually 24, I can never remember.Yes, but my post here does. He had his chance last season and wasn't good enough (21 games as a striker with 3 goals before he was played on the wing). However he's proved his worth in League 1 and with the confidence and a decent manager I'd be willing to give him a crack again if we get promoted. I know you also complained about bring last season up but blaming Fryatt's poor record on him playing on the wing is one of my pet peeves I'm sorry but that is absolute BOLLOCKS!!! 1) I saw Colchester away on the TV - he was basically playing centre mid - look at the 11 we picked that day 2) I was at QPR. Fryatt played on the wing. End of. 3) He was definitely on the wing away at Southampton in the cup 4) At least 4 of those sub games he was on for less than 5 minutes There are other mistakes in that detail. I'm not saying he was brilliant last week - he wasn't. But get your facts right.
Chrysalis Posted 10 October 2008 Posted 10 October 2008 hes not good enough for championship but it would be crazy to sell him when we still need him for 2nd half of season, how silly would it be we sell him in jan, have a goal scoring drought soon after and then cock up promotion.
FilboFox Posted 10 October 2008 Posted 10 October 2008 He might have just been lacking in confidence cause the whole team was, in general, playing badly last season... I'd keep him and when we go up, see how he goes in the Championship under Pearson... I think he'd be much better.
DanTheFox07 Posted 10 October 2008 Posted 10 October 2008 Im gonna go out on a limb for fryatt yet again, guys I Think Fryatt should be given another chance to prove us wrong in the championship! You can hardly say any striker has done well at this club in the last 2-3years Not exactly been an environment where weve given every player the chance to shine, When Fryatt first joined us he kept us in the championship and if i remember rightly got bout 8-9 goals so did well then. Now u look at our team and its been restructured and we actually have wingers which is something we lacked last season and also Oakley seems like a different player. So why can`t we wait and see with Fryatt? if we get promoted and he doesnt do the buisness then ill happily agree with all the doubters and say league one is his level.
Unabomber Posted 11 October 2008 Posted 11 October 2008 Im gonna go out on a limb for fryatt yet again, guys I Think Fryatt should be given another chance to prove us wrong in the championship! You can hardly say any striker has done well at this club in the last 2-3years Not exactly been an environment where weve given every player the chance to shine, When Fryatt first joined us he kept us in the championship and if i remember rightly got bout 8-9 goals so did well then. Now u look at our team and its been restructured and we actually have wingers which is something we lacked last season and also Oakley seems like a different player. So why can`t we wait and see with Fryatt? if we get promoted and he doesnt do the buisness then ill happily agree with all the doubters and say league one is his level. Oh ****inghell
Zingari Posted 11 October 2008 Posted 11 October 2008 I'd flog him, personally. bloody hell what's he done to deserve that ?
Lovejoy Posted 11 October 2008 Posted 11 October 2008 My memory might be playing a trick on me here, but didn't Iain Hume play on the wing a lot last year? If anyone can be bothered to find the facts, I'd be interested to see what the goals-per-game ratiowas for him and Fryatt.
Jimmy Posted 11 October 2008 Posted 11 October 2008 My memory might be playing a trick on me here, but didn't Iain Hume play on the wing a lot last year? If anyone can be bothered to find the facts, I'd be interested to see what the goals-per-game ratiowas for him and Fryatt. Iain Hume never played as a striker, the big headed tvvat thought he could do it all himself so dropped deep and tried to beat every man on the pitch
Lovejoy Posted 11 October 2008 Posted 11 October 2008 Iain Hume never played as a striker, the big headed tvvat thought he could do it all himself so dropped deep and tried to beat every man on the pitch True he was too selfish, but he was played on the wing a lot.
davieG Posted 11 October 2008 Posted 11 October 2008 Iain Hume never played as a striker, the big headed tvvat thought he could do it all himself so dropped deep and tried to beat every man on the pitch Like Fryatt then
Corky Posted 11 October 2008 Posted 11 October 2008 Like Fryatt then There has been many occasions this season when Fryatt has been selfish, like Hume last season. I fee Howard is very unselfish, yet gets more stick.
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