Narborough_fox Posted 28 May 2015 Posted 28 May 2015 Take off their 4 sackings and its still the highest total for a single season in the last 10 years. Ridiculous. Pozzo's actually only sacked 2 managers this season. Garcia left due to ill health whilst Jokanovic didn't have his contract renewed.
Carl the Llama Posted 28 May 2015 Posted 28 May 2015 Pozzo's actually only sacked 2 managers this season. Garcia left due to ill health whilst Jokanovic didn't have his contract renewed. But they're definitely to blame for that last one, so 3 managers moved on directly thanks to them.
JerryLundegaard Posted 28 May 2015 Posted 28 May 2015 So we've got: Blackburn and Gary Bowyer Bournemouth and Eddie Howe Ipswich and Mick McCarthy Middlesbrough and Aitor Karanka Rotherham and Steve Evans Sheff Wed and Stuart Gray Wolves and Kenny Jackett If my fumbled calculations are correct they are the only clubs who kept their manager for the whole season (not including Derby and Brentford). You've got to say though looking at a lot of the sackings that happened, there is justification there for them. But then there are only three spots for promotion up for grabs so maybe some loyalty might help.
Captain... Posted 29 May 2015 Posted 29 May 2015 Does anyone else recognise Derby's post January form? Going from promotion form to relegation form and throwing it all away? Admittedly when we did it we still made the playoffs but it does show the relationship between our owners and manager that when that happened to us they trusted Nigel next season and look what happened. We will never know Mcclaren could have done the same, but there really is very little faith placed in managers these days. Second longest serving manager in the PL after Wenger, and how many want Wenger gone? 2
FrankieADZ Posted 29 May 2015 Posted 29 May 2015 Eh? The 2-2 draw with Everton away was voted more boring than QPRs 0-0 draw at home to West Ham. im done with football. that article has more hot air in it than Piers Morgan...& that a feet in itself.
yorkie1999 Posted 29 May 2015 Posted 29 May 2015 A lot of our games deemed boring were through the opposition nullifying our exciting brand of football.
melrose Posted 29 May 2015 Posted 29 May 2015 We may have been boring at times.....but we were never boring!
Babylon Posted 29 May 2015 Posted 29 May 2015 Does anyone else recognise Derby's post January form? Going from promotion form to relegation form and throwing it all away? Admittedly when we did it we still made the playoffs but it does show the relationship between our owners and manager that when that happened to us they trusted Nigel next season and look what happened. We will never know Mcclaren could have done the same, but there really is very little faith placed in managers these days. Second longest serving manager in the PL after Wenger, and how many want Wenger gone? Was Derby not a lot to do with wally and how he handled all the job speculation etc?
dayday Posted 29 May 2015 Posted 29 May 2015 Does anyone else recognise Derby's post January form? Going from promotion form to relegation form and throwing it all away? Admittedly when we did it we still made the playoffs but it does show the relationship between our owners and manager that when that happened to us they trusted Nigel next season and look what happened. We will never know Mcclaren could have done the same, but there really is very little faith placed in managers these days. Second longest serving manager in the PL after Wenger, and how many want Wenger gone? My Derby supporting mate blames the Ince and Bent signings,though they did allright,it upset the team spirit.
Super_horns Posted 29 May 2015 Posted 29 May 2015 Pozzo's actually only sacked 2 managers this season. Garcia left due to ill health whilst Jokanovic didn't have his contract renewed. Sannino did resign although the players complained about him to the Pozzos so maybe that could be viewed as "mutual" This Jokanovic business seems to be a case of who do you believe in terms what was offered....
Narborough_fox Posted 29 May 2015 Posted 29 May 2015 But they're definitely to blame for that last one, so 3 managers moved on directly thanks to them. Yeah, I agree but just saying that it wouldn't have counted towards the sacking figures above meaning that even without Watford's managerial changes this season there have still been 22 sackings which is absurd. Sannino did resign although the players complained about him to the Pozzos so maybe that could be viewed as "mutual" This Jokanovic business seems to be a case of who do you believe in terms what was offered.... Seen reports that Jokanovic was only offered another £1,000 a week on his contract despite taking you up. Absurd if that's true!
Xen Posted 29 May 2015 Posted 29 May 2015 Yeah, I agree but just saying that it wouldn't have counted towards the sacking figures above meaning that even without Watford's managerial changes this season there have still been 22 sackings which is absurd. Seen reports that Jokanovic was only offered another £1,000 a week on his contract despite taking you up. Absurd if that's true! I'd be shocked if the wording in the BBC article is accurate, to be honest. If it didn't include people leaving without being sacked, then there would have been at least 25 managerial changes last season in the championship. I certainly don't recall anywhere near that many - that would suggest that the average club had between 2 and 3 permanent managers over the season. I fully expect that the 'managers sacked' figure includes managers leaving of their own accord, and for 'other reasons'. Still a shocking figure, but take Watford out of the question and the average championship club would have had about 1.7 managers over the season, which is a lot more realistic and seems about right from what I can remember.
Super_horns Posted 29 May 2015 Posted 29 May 2015 (edited) And others like our local paper saying he wanted over 2 million... Suspect it's somewhere in the middle and they didn't want to give him a 3 year contract either. No-one from either side has commented in public which hardly helps. On a general point it does seem to be a case of short team instant success rather than long term planning. Hence why managers want to spend for quick fixes rather than bring youngsters through. Edited 29 May 2015 by Super_horns
yorkie1999 Posted 29 May 2015 Posted 29 May 2015 All i know is NP is the second longest serving manager in the league. 1
ian_marshall Posted 29 May 2015 Posted 29 May 2015 My Derby supporting mate blames the Ince and Bent signings,though they did allright,it upset the team spirit. He has a good point. Watched Derby on the telly a couple of times over the final few months and noticed that they'd changed their shape from earlier on in the season to accommodate the new signings. From the game's I saw they had reverted to a diamond formation with Ince playing at the top of the diamond behind the front two and Hughes playing at the base of the diamond as a DCM. I thought it was rather bizarre as I've always felt that Hughes dribbling ability and intelligence was a real asset from an attacking perspective, and Ince every time I've watched him against us is far too one dimensional relying too heavily on his pace and left foot, but never seems to have an answer when teams nullify his strengths. My own opinion is that Hughes is a far better player than Ince but it seemed as though McClaren was tinkering with the the system just to fit everyone in.
biggs Posted 29 May 2015 Posted 29 May 2015 All i know is NP is the second longest serving manager in the league. I'm not so sure this is true as he was fired earlier this year
yorkie1999 Posted 29 May 2015 Posted 29 May 2015 I'm not so sure this is true as he was fired earlier this year Allegedly!!
Spudulike Posted 29 May 2015 Posted 29 May 2015 He has a good point. Watched Derby on the telly a couple of times over the final few months and noticed that they'd changed their shape from earlier on in the season to accommodate the new signings. From the game's I saw they had reverted to a diamond formation with Ince playing at the top of the diamond behind the front two and Hughes playing at the base of the diamond as a DCM. I thought it was rather bizarre as I've always felt that Hughes dribbling ability and intelligence was a real asset from an attacking perspective, and Ince every time I've watched him against us is far too one dimensional relying too heavily on his pace and left foot, but never seems to have an answer when teams nullify his strengths. My own opinion is that Hughes is a far better player than Ince but it seemed as though McClaren was tinkering with the the system just to fit everyone in. You seem to have an unhealthy interest in that club
ian_marshall Posted 30 May 2015 Posted 30 May 2015 You seem to have an unhealthy interest in that club . No, not at all. Love football and appreciate good players which I think Derby have at their level, but City are my life and I know where my loyalties lie. I keep a close eye on our local rivals as living in North Leicestershire I know a lot of Forest and Derby fans and love rubbing it in when we're leading the way in the E Mids, especially having to listen to the nonsense spouted by Forest fans who spend their entire life living in the past.
foxfan92 Posted 30 May 2015 Posted 30 May 2015 Don't think it's been shared yet http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3097973/Chelsea-s-5-3-defeat-Tottenham-Hotspur-Southampton-s-8-0-win-Sunderland-matches-best-season-Sportsmail-10.html No surprise really...
Foxymcoxy Posted 30 May 2015 Posted 30 May 2015 It will surely be top of all of these. It was the best match I've ever been to by miles.
sylofox Posted 30 May 2015 Posted 30 May 2015 I'd be shocked if the wording in the BBC article is accurate, to be honest. If it didn't include people leaving without being sacked, then there would have been at least 25 managerial changes last season in the championship. I certainly don't recall anywhere near that many - that would suggest that the average club had between 2 and 3 permanent managers over the season. I fully expect that the 'managers sacked' figure includes managers leaving of their own accord, and for 'other reasons'. Still a shocking figure, but take Watford out of the question and the average championship club would have had about 1.7 managers over the season, which is a lot more realistic and seems about right from what I can remember. Take out the clubs that started and finished with the same manager. Here are 3 to start Derby Ipswich and Wolves oh and Bournemouth. Your 1.7 is looking a little different.
Freesolo Posted 30 May 2015 Posted 30 May 2015 Don't think it's been shared yet http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3097973/Chelsea-s-5-3-defeat-Tottenham-Hotspur-Southampton-s-8-0-win-Sunderland-matches-best-season-Sportsmail-10.html No surprise really... Yea best Leicester game i have watched in years on par with the 1997 Arsenal 3-3 comeback
Aus Fox Posted 30 May 2015 Posted 30 May 2015 All i know is NP is the second longest serving manager in the league. Obviously Wenger is the longest but is there anyone else longer in the football league?
Zear0 Posted 30 May 2015 Posted 30 May 2015 Obviously Wenger is the longest but is there anyone else longer in the football league? http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_Football_League_managers Quite shocking how few managers are even close to what I'd consider 'long term'.
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